Super Bowl 51

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electricslide

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That player was suspended and traded . You cannot call a team cheaters, for one individual using peds, who was suspended and traded, that player did not give any unfair advantage to the team. Compare that to deflating footballs so that a so called hall of famer can throw the ball better all game in his favor illegally change and have an effect on the game being played.. as far as the coach fined this year. Get your facts right, ravens did NOT lose a draft pick they lost one week of otas and the coach was fined. And that was because they practiced WITH FUCKING PADS ON in the off season.. so if that's what you call cheating your completely ignorant and I'll no longer waste my time with you I cannot dumb it down for you any more than that if you cannot understand the difference well I'm just not gonna waste anymore time with stupidity.
 
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KryptoBud

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electricslide said:
That player was suspended and traded . You cannot call a team cheaters, for one individual using peds, who was suspended and traded, that player did not give any unfair advantage to the team. Compare that to deflating footballs so that a so called hall of famer can throw the ball better all game in his favor illegally change and have an effect on the game being played.. as far as the coach fined this year. Get your facts right, ravens did NOT lose a draft pick they lost one week of otas and the coach was fined. And that was because they practiced WITH FUCKING PADS ON in the off season.. so if that's what you call cheating your completely ignorant and I'll no longer waste my time with you I cannot dumb it down for you any more than that if you cannot understand the difference well I'm just not gonna waste anymore time with stupidity.
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What do think only some rules apply. Let me dumb it down for you they got fined because it's breaking the rules which is cheating. let the butt hurt flow, no need to call names. Does antler spray count as cheating? Only if other teams do it not yours i guess. You're right they didn't lose a pick the seahawks did for doing the same thing 600.000 fine and a draft pick, steep price for doing nothing wrong. According to scientists, engineers. and mathematicians brady didn't cheat either. Read this about deflated balls and how much the nfl fucked up.
The Wells Report in Context
 
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jerryb73

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KryptoBud said:
What do think only some rules apply. Let me dumb it down for you they got fined because it's breaking the rules which is cheating. let the butt hurt flow, no need to call names. Does antler spray count as cheating? Only if other teams do it not yours i guess. You're right they didn't lose a pick the seahawks did for doing the same thing 600.000 fine and a draft pick, steep price for doing nothing wrong. According to scientists, engineers. and mathematicians brady didn't cheat either. Read this about deflated balls and how much the nfl fucked up.
The Wells Report in Context
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Damn near every QB in the league agreed that a deflated ball in the freezing cold would definitely be a benefit.. I'll believe them over engineers and scientists when it comes to a football, but hey whatever it takes I suppose. And for Brady to say he didn't notice a difference in the fb, he said that to Pats fans cuz the rest of the world knows better..
 
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KryptoBud

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jerryb73 said:
Damn near every QB in the league agreed that a deflated ball in the freezing cold would definitely be a benefit.. I'll believe them over engineers and scientists when it comes to a football, but hey whatever it takes I suppose. And for Brady to say he didn't notice a difference in the fb, he said that to Pats fans cuz the rest of the world knows better..
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How would they know if it was a benefit if they never did it? Do you think the official that spots the ball every snap for both teams should've noticed such a huge difference? Here's the vikings and carolina caught on video. starts 2:40. This was after deflate gate.
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jerryb73

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KryptoBud said:
How would they know if it was a benefit if they never did it? Do you think the official that spots the ball every snap for both teams should've noticed such a huge difference? Here's the vikings and carolina caught on video. starts 2:40. This was after deflate gate.
The footage shown on NFL Network is from the Vikings' sideline
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Guess I should have said that Brady knew the balls were softer and not "benefit" but if u have ever tried to throw or catch a frozen ball then you could see the "benefit". Either way what's done is done. All I'm saying is for Brady to say he couldn't tell a difference in a ball he has been throwing for 20yrs or so seems far fetched to me.. Makes him seem less a QB to me, not very perceptive or he wants us to think he isn't. And I won't even start in on belechek.. Brady distroyed his phone why? Cuz that's what everyone does when they get a new phone. Lmao!!
 
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KryptoBud

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jerryb73 said:
Guess I should have said that Brady knew the balls were softer and not "benefit" but if u have ever tried to throw or catch a frozen ball then you could see the "benefit". Either way what's done is done. All I'm saying is for Brady to say he couldn't tell a difference in a ball he has been throwing for 20yrs or so seems far fetched to me.. Makes him seem less a QB to me, not very perceptive or he wants us to think he isn't. And I won't even start in on belechek.. Brady distroyed his phone why? Cuz that's what everyone does when they get a new phone. Lmao!!
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Far fetched i agree. I'm sure they were deflated too. Rules apply to everyone though, not just the patriots. I posted a video with teams changing air pressure in the football, that doesn't matter? Baltimore and Seattle were fined and Seattle lost a draft pick because it's the second time getting caught. A equipment violation just like the patriots had, didn't see it on the news i bet did you. As far the cell phone i'd agree he did it on purpose too. It's not something you or I would ever have to consider doing. He's a public figure people love to hate married to the biggest supermodel in the world. Also they had the phones from the ball guys already. I love it I hope more shit comes out it seems to make him better. Now be honest who's your team?

One more thing google tom bradys leaked email. Personal emails released or leaked by the NFL during deflategate
 
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electricslide

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KryptoBud said:
Far fetched i agree. I'm sure they were deflated too. Rules apply to everyone though, not just the patriots. I posted a video with teams changing air pressure in the football, that doesn't matter? Baltimore and Seattle were fined and Seattle lost a draft pick because it's the second time getting caught. A equipment violation just like the patriots had, didn't see it on the news i bet did you. As far the cell phone i'd agree he did it on purpose too. It's not something you or I would ever have to consider doing. He's a public figure people love to hate married to the biggest supermodel in the world. Also they had the phones from the ball guys already. I love it I hope more shit comes out it seems to make him better. Now be honest who's your team?

One more thing google tom bradys leaked email. Personal emails released or leaked by the NFL during deflategate
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Again your an idiot . It wasn't an equipment malfunction , they practiced with pads on before they wer3 supposed to. Again that's alot different then cheating in the middle of a game. Stop trying to put that on the same level as Brady cheating
 
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jerryb73

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KryptoBud said:
Far fetched i agree. I'm sure they were deflated too. Rules apply to everyone though, not just the patriots. I posted a video with teams changing air pressure in the football, that doesn't matter? Baltimore and Seattle were fined and Seattle lost a draft pick because it's the second time getting caught. A equipment violation just like the patriots had, didn't see it on the news i bet did you. As far the cell phone i'd agree he did it on purpose too. It's not something you or I would ever have to consider doing. He's a public figure people love to hate married to the biggest supermodel in the world. Also they had the phones from the ball guys already. I love it I hope more shit comes out it seems to make him better. Now be honest who's your team?

One more thing google tom bradys leaked email. Personal emails released or leaked by the NFL during deflategate
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Die hard COLTS fan :wink: that being said I'm a football fan and I know football so as far as that game goes the PATS were gonna win regardless if they were throwing bricks, that's where my problem comes in. They are already at the top every year and prolly gonna win most weeks so why cheat? Business as usual, that's why they are in the news. Without any other evidence Destroying his phone was an admission of guilt. If he had nothing on his phone about "deflate gate" and that could have squashed the whole thing then why not show it? We are the patriots we do what we want? Hell if the ball was to hard for their sensitive lil fingers maybe it was hard for the colts too so why not propose that both teams use the same ball? Because then it might be a closer game and people will see us as "average"We are Americas team ( not cowboys) we must be great.. Smh fucking Patriots
Anyway, I love talking fb especially to Pats fans, they are loyal and will look past what is right in front of them. Brady could have said "yeah I did it" and somehow the fans still wouldn't see it.
 
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electricslide

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jerryb73 said:
Die hard COLTS fan :wink: that being said I'm a football fan and I know football so as far as that game goes the PATS were gonna win regardless if they were throwing bricks, that's where my problem comes in. They are already at the top every year and prolly gonna win most weeks so why cheat? Business as usual, that's why they are in the news. Without any other evidence Destroying his phone was an admission of guilt. If he had nothing on his phone about "deflate gate" and that could have squashed the whole thing then why not show it? We are the patriots we do what we want? Hell if the ball was to hard for their sensitive lil fingers maybe it was hard for the colts too so why not propose that both teams use the same ball? Because then it might be a closer game and people will see us as "average"We are Americas team ( not cowboys) we must be great.. Smh fucking Patriots
Anyway, I love talking fb especially to Pats fans, they are loyal and will look past what is right in front of them. Brady could have said "yeah I did it" and somehow the fans still wouldn't see it.
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I don't think you coulda said it any better.. I'm a die hard ravens fan. I'm also first to admit when the organization fucks up and when we are wrong.

We broke the rules for holding a practice using pads. How can that be considered cheating or be even remotely compared to tom brady and the patriots. They arnt comparable in any way lol.

Silly patriots fans smh
 
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KryptoBud

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How did I know? First ES taking steroids and equipment violations like extra padded practices is AGAINST THE RULES. If you're gonna argue rules, learn them. Both the patriots and ravens violations were both equipment violations. What you think about severity of the violations doesn't mean shit. Extra padded practice or an under inflated ball for half a game are both violate the rules. Get over it. Ravens fans cheer and idolize ray lewis. A guy more likely than not to be responsible for a double murder silly ravens fans.

jerryb73 The rules apply to all 32 teams. Whether the team is 16-0 or 0-16. I linked a video from the NFL where two teams are on video heating balls which changes air pressure. Wheres the outrage? You must know that 3 of 4 colts balls tested were below the 12.5 minimum. Those balls were tested last, after being indoors nice and warm for 10 plus minutes. Look at video linked earlier, warm air pressure go's up. Of course no one knows what any of the balls started at, it wasn't recorded. There's plenty of shit the colts have been accused of like pumping crowd noise into a dome (like atlanta was fined and lost a pick for, but thats not cheating either) or throwing away a season "suck for luck" to get the #1 pick.

Like i said, I have no doubt the balls were deflated. I don't think it's a huge deal or difference maker. Neither does anyone else until it's the patriots. I'd bet you, me, or anyone else in this thread had any idea a rule like this even existed until deflategate. I posted video of other teams doing it on national tv after deflategate, it's never mentioned. If your teams good it's cheating if not ahhh fuck it. I think it stems from teams and fans getting their sensitive lil bum bums kicked the last decade and a half.
Anyways, Happy Thanksgiving gentlemen I'm gonna finish watching Pittsburgh spank Indy. :bigjoint:
 
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jerryb73

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KryptoBud said:
How did I know? First ES taking steroids and equipment violations like extra padded practices is AGAINST THE RULES. If you're gonna argue rules, learn them. Both the patriots and ravens violations were both equipment violations. What you think about severity of the violations doesn't mean shit. Extra padded practice or an under inflated ball for half a game are both violate the rules. Get over it. Ravens fans cheer and idolize ray lewis. A guy more likely than not to be responsible for a double murder silly ravens fans.

jerryb73 The rules apply to all 32 teams. Whether the team is 16-0 or 0-16. I linked a video from the NFL where two teams are on video heating balls which changes air pressure. Wheres the outrage? You must know that 3 of 4 colts balls tested were below the 12.5 minimum. Those balls were tested last, after being indoors nice and warm for 10 plus minutes. Look at video linked earlier, warm air pressure go's up. Of course no one knows what any of the balls started at, it wasn't recorded. There's plenty of shit the colts have been accused of like pumping crowd noise into a dome (like atlanta was fined and lost a pick for, but thats not cheating either) or throwing away a season "suck for luck" to get the #1 pick.

Like i said, I have no doubt the balls were deflated. I don't think it's a huge deal or difference maker. Neither does anyone else until it's the patriots. I'd bet you, me, or anyone else in this thread had any idea a rule like this even existed until deflategate. I posted video of other teams doing it on national tv after deflategate, it's never mentioned. If your teams good it's cheating if not ahhh fuck it. I think it stems from teams and fans getting their sensitive lil bum bums kicked the last decade and a half.
Anyways, Happy Thanksgiving gentlemen I'm gonna finish watching Pittsburgh spank Indy. :bigjoint:
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Spank indeed, bad football and play calling by the colts. Dropped passes and 2 failed attempts from the goal line, hard enough with luck out, can't play like that..
 
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jerryb73

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KryptoBud said:
Maybe they need to find a new head coach, before Luck gets killed.
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Maybe, but I also feel Irsay has to much say when it comes to drafting players, he always wants "skill" players and never considers the the guys up front or defense much. Our entire o line are rookies, so they did draft a few lineman but maybe should have went after a solid free agent or 2. Some experience would be nice. Idk man something has to change.
 
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