Olive Drab Green
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Shit looks damn near pure indy. What is it again? Beautiful, by the way.Day 5, top of the plant is now getting about 775 umoles.
Shit looks damn near pure indy. What is it again? Beautiful, by the way.Day 5, top of the plant is now getting about 775 umoles.
Damn bro you just follow led threads around talking shit. Don't you get bored of that? How bout you buy some leds and do a grow journal so you can prove how bad they are I would love to see a terrible grow your always talking aboutThose lights aren't going to make much intensity, those look best for side lighting or a novelty item.
18 oz harvest(500+ grams dried buds) from 400w of LEDs i know what i am talking about i been using LEDs for 4 years. I know your new to the forum but maybe you should look around before shit talking. These quantum boards are old tech, they are a PCB light without lenses. Don't expect much intensity from them without proper optics. Even with proper optics these lights are still old tech and won't have great intensity, they will need to be hung 12 inches or closer. I noticed you never posted a picture of a plant , do you grow buds? Bet you just here to talk shit .Damn bro you just follow led threads around talking shit. Don't you get bored of that? How bout you buy some leds and do a grow journal so you can prove how bad they are I would love to see a terrible grow your always talking about
Whats wrong with higher efficiency"old tech" of course you need optics for penetration thanks for stating the obvious. My point was you don't need to talk shit on lights that work if used correctly18 oz harvest(500+ grams dried buds) from 400w of LEDs i know what i am talking about i been using LEDs for 4 years. I know your new to the forum but maybe you should look around before shit talking. These quantum boards are old tech, they are a PCB light without lenses. Don't expect much intensity from them without proper optics. Even with proper optics these lights are still old tech and won't have great intensity, they will need to be hung 12 inches or closer. I noticed you never posted a picture of a plant , do you grow buds? Bet you just here to talk shit .
He thinks that the light comes from the pcb board, lolWhats wrong with higher efficiency"old tech" of course you need optics for penetration thanks for stating the obvious. My point was you don't need to talk shit on lights that work if used correctly
Your canopy management sucks and your light distribution needs work.18 oz harvest(500+ grams dried buds) from 400w of LEDs i know what i am talking about i been using LEDs for 4 years. I know your new to the forum but maybe you should look around before shit talking. These quantum boards are old tech, they are a PCB light without lenses. Don't expect much intensity from them without proper optics. Even with proper optics these lights are still old tech and won't have great intensity, they will need to be hung 12 inches or closer. I noticed you never posted a picture of a plant , do you grow buds? Bet you just here to talk shit .
How would he know? He doesn't use the ones he has worth a damn!Whats wrong with higher efficiency"old tech" of course you need optics for penetration thanks for stating the obvious. My point was you don't need to talk shit on lights that work if used correctly
Never said i was perfect and i would agree, the area i need to improve the most is canopy training. But getting over a pound per plant in a 4x4 is a pretty decent haul. And i never said anything bad about COBs i like them, i said quantum boards are old tech that lack intensity, they are basically an all white led like an area 51 W100 or apache tech all white but without optics and smaller diodes.Your canopy management sucks and your light distribution needs work.
You could be getting .5gpw more than you are with just these changes.
I guess we'll see who's right about COB LED and these new boards.
After all, you've been wrong before...
Often.
That's not really true, depending on the spectrum some light can penetrate(green goes the furthest), and due to the law of the inverse square a multi diode light will be much less intense than a single point light with equal wattage(the lower the wattage per diode the faster the intensity fades from distance [ it is a linear chart like x^2 ]), what it boils down to is you will need to keep these lights really close to your plants and another under the top won't get shit for light.Again, people are getting confused with penetration.
No matter how bright your light, it ain't going to go through any leaf matter and producing enough light for the leaf underneath. It's about light coming in at different angles which gives better penetration.
The more sources of light, the better the penetration of light into the canopy, so in theory, these are better than COBS. And these being DIY'able makes it very promising.
Gosh it's amazing how much you know about these old chips, that have only been on the market for less than a year!Never said i was perfect and i would agree, the area i need to improve the most is canopy training. But getting over a pound per plant in a 4x4 is a pretty decent haul. And i never said anything bad about COBs i like them, i said quantum boards are old tech that lack intensity, they are basically an all white led like an area 51 W100 or apache tech all white but without optics and smaller diodes.
New chips are being made every day, that doesnt mean they will work well for growing big weed plants, this is old technology with new chips in it, doesn't mean it's better than new technology with new chips in it. It's like if i take my area 51 light and upgrade it to the best mono diode crees on the market, it will be an upgrade, but will it be as good as cob lights? i think not.Gosh it's amazing how much you know about these old chips, that have only been on the market for less than a year!
So do you have a degree in engineering or physics that would allow you to substantiate your claims?
BWAHAHAHA!
HID lights penetrate good because the initial value is higher so you can place them higher, a 1000w gavita run on 1150 watts should be no lower than 10 feet high. The sun where i live is super intense, i live at 6500+ ft altitude so i hear you on the bright intense sun.Good luck getting that type of penetration with any light. Here's a shot at the Aussie sun here at the moment way brighter than my LED could ever get.
Speak for yourself. I want more low power lights, not fewer strong ones.That's not really true, depending on the spectrum some light can penetrate(green goes the furthest), and due to the law of the inverse square a multi diode light will be much less intense than a single point light with equal wattage(the lower the wattage per diode the faster the intensity fades from distance [ it is a linear chart like x^2 ]), what it boils down to is you will need to keep these lights really close to your plants and another under the top won't get shit for light.
Just some references
http://www.apachetechinc.com/white-leds/1-white-leds-at120w.html
http://ledgrowlightguide.com/area-51-w100-led-grow-light-review
https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Platinum-P300-12-band-Grow/dp/B00NTBS91Y/ref=pd_sim_86_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z7XJVHHG6G71KR227HB4
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HEIJB0K?psc=1
These all use that PCB board glued to a heat sink concept not a new technology. Basically these are a step in the wrong direction, COB LEDs were a step in the right direction. We want more powerful diodes not multiple weak ones.
Oh Gawd, look! Yet MORE bro science bullshit! But you KNOW cuz you saw it on a thread! lolHID lights penetrate good because the initial value is higher so you can place them higher, a 1000w gavita run on 1150 watts should be no lower than 10 feet high. The sun where i live is super intense, i live at 6500+ ft altitude so i hear you on the bright intense sun.
How is that true when everyone has experienced better penetration with COBS? Which are only a small fraction of the power of HID?HID lights penetrate good because the initial value is higher so you can place them higher, a 1000w gavita run on 1150 watts should be no lower than 10 feet high. The sun where i live is super intense, i live at 6500+ ft altitude so i hear you on the bright intense sun.
Untrue, cobs are to be hung 12-18 inches from canopy, HID lights are to be hung 2-3 feet above. I think i am done trying to teach you guys, it's a lost cause you guys rather fight the truth than learn. Have a good night.How is that true when everyone has experienced better penetration with COBS? Which are only a small fraction of the power of HID?