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BobCajun
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One thing about doing alcohol extractions, you come to know that it's a solvent not a beverage. If you would still drink ethanol knowing it's a solvent then congratulations, you're an imbecile.
gwpharms
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I love those OH groups
Never drink any of them though
As a solvent, if im using it to extract something i want to taste good. I like to think about how its made and if it's from things that i would eat
Everclear , etoh ,
is at least basically water corn sugars yeast femented and distilled.
Industrial methods of producing ethanol are basically hydration of ethane gas.
The rest of the wonderful OH's, while facinating and useful,
many are made from some nasty stuff.
Iso is made several different ways but look into how
Then it makes sense why iso dosnt taste as great. I would only use iso for lack of a source of high proof grain alchohol.
As far as drinking it. Yeah your right
its like drinking race car fuel.
Never drink any of them though
As a solvent, if im using it to extract something i want to taste good. I like to think about how its made and if it's from things that i would eat
Everclear , etoh ,
is at least basically water corn sugars yeast femented and distilled.
Industrial methods of producing ethanol are basically hydration of ethane gas.
The rest of the wonderful OH's, while facinating and useful,
many are made from some nasty stuff.
Iso is made several different ways but look into how
Then it makes sense why iso dosnt taste as great. I would only use iso for lack of a source of high proof grain alchohol.
As far as drinking it. Yeah your right
its like drinking race car fuel.
BobCajun
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You can actually drink iso too, it's just a bit more toxic than ethyl, meaning it takes a little less to kill you. Their LD50s aren't that different. People regularly die from ethanol poisoning.
selfmedicator462
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I can really tell a difference in flavor. Grain alcohol seems a lot smoother.
BobCajun
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Perhaps, but have you seen the look on peoples' faces right after taking a shot of liquor? That's the look of having just drank some solvent. Ethanol is not actually intended to be consumed. People just decided to do it. It's actually pretty insane. That shit is not fit for human consumption any more rubbing alcohol is. That's why it makes you nauseous when you drink it and sick the next day. If it wasn't naturally occurring from yeast I really don't believe it ever would have become something people consume. If you saw a bottle of turpentine would the thought come to mind "Maybe I should drink that"? Hell no.
MM422
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Well ya i would never drink everclear, thats a wicked buzz right there. All I'm saying is i didnt know shit about extractions until I started to research it, trial and error making the stuff. I started off with 91 iso, then 99, i tried several ways, short soaks, long soaks, 10 second swirls. Etc. As soon as I got ahold of everclear 190, the game changed. The end product is so much better. It's way less sticky, the taste is wayyyy better, smoother, and I can make some nice workable shatter! I've had Colorado shatter any my stuff tastes exactly the same, and rocks you. It might be a little darker than the Colorado stuff, but i dont have a vacuum chamber and im sure if I blasted it with butane it be lighter but without a vac chamber I'd rather use everclear!!! It's got way less smell when I double boil, it dries up way nicer, just way better overall
gwpharms
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I know what your saying. Taste is incredibly good. Taste great as an edible straight up too. Disolves on the tounge.vaped at proper temp, literally mouth watering makes one want to eat it. Smells like a sweet bouquet in the container.
If you want to make your product less dark theres various filtration methods. Color can be removed before and after extraction. end product would look something like this. If you want to make it "shatter" spread in thin layer and vacuum at 60 degrees for 2 hours.
That will make a beautiful red/amber shatter.
I prefer it as an oil
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BobCajun
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Maybe ethanol has better solvent abilities for plant resins than iso. Personally I always use acetone. A drawback is that it's very hygroscopic, meaning it attracts water. When the acetone evaporates there is still a lot of water to get rid of. That sometimes happens with alcohol too but not as bad. And since alcohol forms an azeotrope with water, the water will cook off with the alcohol if you heat it to the BP of the azeotrope, which is lower than the BP of water so you could do it with a pot of near-boiling water as the heat source and thereby prevent possible fires from heating directly on a stove.
gwpharms
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You need to try histological acetone. It will solve your evap and water problem and give a more pure better tasting product.
Your acetone has water molecules in it. No matter what the label says it has water in it. Histo grade evaps completely almost as fast as you can pour it out.
Your acetone has water molecules in it. No matter what the label says it has water in it. Histo grade evaps completely almost as fast as you can pour it out.
selfmedicator462
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So Everclear isnt supposed to be drank? I better tell some people that have been consuming that for 40 plus years.
BobCajun
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There's no way to get acetone without water in it. As I said, it's very hygroscopic. Even histo grade has 0.5% water. Besides, as soon as it hits the air it absorbs moisture from it and when it evaporates it causes cooling, which then causes even more water to condense and absorb. It's not a big problem anyway, I just put the plate in the microwave for about 30 seconds at a time and stir it around until it needs another microwaving to heat it back up again. It takes about 5 such heatings/stirrings. I also like to get rid of low boiling compounds in the resin, it makes it thicker and less harsh. I was merely pointing out that acetone does abosorb a lot of water when doing extractions with it.
Bublonichronic
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Believe it or not everclear has one of the best buzzes, almost halucinagenic opposed to a beer blurry drunkenness
iHearAll
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you can make a week long tincture and purify by carbon filtration. it takes a few passes of filtration but it works. quick wash is brainlessly more efficient though
edit: consider adding microwave DRY epsom salt in the alcohol. never done it for hash oil, but in theory would work for absorbing the water that condensed while the alcohol evaporated. probably pointless tbh
edit: consider adding microwave DRY epsom salt in the alcohol. never done it for hash oil, but in theory would work for absorbing the water that condensed while the alcohol evaporated. probably pointless tbh
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gwpharms
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Have you ever used it?
How can one wash amphetamines with it if it leaves water or attracts water?
Its a different ball game, im telling you.
Not true. Your not using the right stuff. Im a HUGE methyl ketone fan trust me on this. A totally different ball game your missing out on. Whole other world.
you know how to or have the means to dry your acetone, store it dry and work airless? Not reduced pressure but inert atmosphere or just airless ?
BobCajun
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Well, histo costs about $80 a liter compared to about $10 for hardware store. And I find it works fine so why go to all the trouble and expense of specially ordering histo in? I'm not making meth so not that big a deal. Thanks for the tip though. If it pulls any water solubles they get removed when I draw the puddles of water up with a piece of twisted up tissue. So it's actually kind of beneficial.
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Grow Goddess
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Well, that is a matter of opinion. I have done extractions with 192 proof polish vodka, 200 proof ethyl, and 99% iso. Each one has its pros and cons, but to call any garbage, it is obvious you have no experience.
192 has water problems, 200 proof ethyl has extraction issues depending on the strain of pulling more than what you want, and 99% iso burns dirty and could be poisonous if the solvent is not completely purged. However, I have found 99% iso to produce the most beautiful and potent oil I have ever made.
My first cancer patient is going on 6 years in remission of his cancer from taking cannabis oil extracted with 99% iso. He is doing great. So to say an oil made with 99% iso would be an insult.
Not directly picking on you, this is to everyone. WTF?!?! Wake the F up! Are you all in "It's a small world" or something? Cannabis is going legal across the globe. I can't believe you are all not jumping into the oil boom. Cancer is everywhere, oil is needed everywhere. It is just starting to gain traction. Recreational is a thing of the past, lets all focus on medical and put away those dumb rosen presses!
One drop of this and I am stoned for at least 24 hours.
Buds used
final, no paper filtering, just gravity. No winterizing or polishing either.
30+ grams from 1/2 pound of ganja
Fully decarbed cannabis oil made using the Rick Simpson method. This was made for a cancer patient, not for someone to have some fun. Please don't call it garbage unless you have something better to show (decarbed oil).