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Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I swear I saw a group of you around here recently. But you all were shooting haphazardly into the woods across from my property for no apparent reason.

Nice hats though. Lol
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Hmm, must be those dern skeet guys.....We stand at the edge of an open area,,,,, pointing in the same direction and repetitively shoot at these round orange "birds" dat come out duh ground. Damndest thang is,,,we pretty much pulverise dem int'a dust and little bitty pieces. When you get's lucky enough to actually simply break it up inta large pieces, you just can't cook'em till tender! Not ta mention they taste like shit!
But we keep going back.
Twice a week to break more in the hope of a meal. It's gotten sa frustrat'in that hundreds of us meet In Mason Mi. 5 times a years for 4 - 5 days at a time and stand 5 per station with 40 stations all attempting to fill those plates....We now gamble on jus how many of dem tough ass orange "birds" we can shoot in a row, 25 in a group and 4 groups one after the other. Some a us have got sa good thats we now have to have guys "shoot off" for the best at it!
Then we made it harder by having a "handicap" event by make'in you stan futher away. This is figured by's how many you shoots out of dat 100 birds that some feller scares out of that hole, when you say "pull" or "yup" or sump'in.
Next comes the 2 birds at a time out'a that hole and them fuckers go opposing directions - FAST.....Now jus this last summer I took the 1st place on one of those 5 times we meet, for doing that whilst sett'in in a char!

The good news is that we's got so good at know'in we's ain't gunna have any of them thar "birds" fur supper. That we have a nice big BBQ fa dinner and built a right big kitchen in the club house fur a feed'in us un our wive's an young'uns fur breakfast n lunch!

Sum a us is soo good dat companies even sponsor us to go to otha states big state shoots to show dem fellers whats for on the fire'in line! Then thars the BIG 'ol GRAND AMERICAN - WORLD championships in Sparta IL every Aug......I's been go'in fur bouts 15 years ta that! Ma son's shoot too and their AIM team has been state champs several times and at differing age groups too. Then a cpl a years ago....they took the Grand American for world champ's! (I jus go down and shoot. Might wins me a few hunert bucks in the Lewis class betting but, sho nuff neva placed in my class thar! Been state class B champ n state class A runna up a few time.)

Now the boys a in college. They don gets ta practice much but on weekends an it seems like they's found the eye fur the girls. So I don see to mucha them any more at the ranges we frequent (that tends ta make sum the older fella's kinda happy like, as they get tired of hav'in yung'uns whup'em so much - me included:oops:)

Now sum dem fella's gu out n spend over 20K on some them guns! Us well, I spent under half that fur me un-single, an bout the same fur me OU dbls gun....The boys shoot a custom shop built Rem 1100 comp and the older one has an old 1959 Browning A5 with a custom built trap barrel on it....Fun ta see the 20K gun fellers look at it and ask, What in the hell duh ya got's there son? (after he whups they ass) Yeee Hawww!

N, you betcha we got NICE HATS!

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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Dr. Who said:
Hmm, must be those dern skeet guys.....We stand at the edge of an open area,,,,, pointing in the same direction and repetitively shoot at these round orange "birds" dat come out duh ground. Damndest thang is,,,we pretty much pulverise dem int'a dust and little bitty pieces. When you get's lucky enough to actually simply break it up inta large pieces, you just can't cook'em till tender! Not ta mention they taste like shit!
But we keep going back.
Twice a week to break more in the hope of a meal. It's gotten sa frustrat'in that hundreds of us meet In Mason Mi. 5 times a years for 4 - 5 days at a time and stand 5 per station with 40 stations all attempting to fill those plates....We now gamble on jus how many of dem tough ass orange "birds" we can shoot in a row, 25 in a group and 4 groups one after the other. Some a us have got sa good thats we now have to have guys "shoot off" for the best at it!
Then we made it harder by having a "handicap" event by make'in you stan futher away. This is figured by's how many you shoots out of dat 100 birds that some feller scares out of that hole, when you say "pull" or "yup" or sump'in.
Next comes the 2 birds at a time out'a that hole and them fuckers go opposing directions - FAST.....Now jus this last summer I took the 1st place on one of those 5 times we meet, for doing that whilst sett'in in a char!

The good news is that we's got so good at know'in we's ain't gunna have any of them thar "birds" fur supper. That we have a nice big BBQ fa dinner and built a right big kitchen in the club house fur a feed'in us un our wive's an young'uns fur breakfast n lunch!

Sum a us is soo good dat companies even sponsor us to go to otha states big state shoots to show dem fellers whats for on the fire'in line! Then thars the BIG 'ol GRAND AMERICAN - WORLD championships in Sparta IL every Aug......I's been go'in fur bouts 15 years ta that! Ma son's shoot too and their AIM team has been state champs several times and at differing age groups too. Then a cpl a years ago....they took the Grand American for world champ's! (I jus go down and shoot. Might wins me a few hunert bucks in the Lewis class betting but, so nuff neva placed in my class!)

Now the boys a in college. They don gets ta practice much but on weekends an it seems like they's found the eye fur the girls. So I don see to mucha them any more at the ranges we frequent (that tends ta make sum the older fella's kinda happy like, as they get tired of hav'in yung'uns whup'em so much - me included:oops:)

Now sum dem fella's gu out n spend over 20K on some them guns! Us well, I spent under half that fur me un-single, an bout the same fur me OU dbls gun....The boys shoot a custom shop built Rem 1100 comp and the older one has an old 1959 Browning A5 with a custom built trap barrel on it....Fun ta see the 20K gun fellers look at it and ask, What in the hell duh ya got's there son? (after he whups they ass) Yeee Hawww!

N, you betcha we got NICE HATS!

:lol:
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Very cool stuff. Good morning Dr. :-)

Got a simile fer ya.

Used to 4 wheel in the tiger road area in Breckenridge. The wanna be rock crawler tourists would come in deep and get stuck in the logged stump field or some advanced spot with their 80k built up Toyota land cruisers with the snorkels and lift kits.

We stumbled upon a stranded family baby included who had been stuck a while. No water. No tow rope. No food. Very expensive custom land cruiser.

I promptly pulled him out with my half painted dented up a bit old dodge 93 pickup. Had a few hidden goodies but nothing fancy or even noticible to the casual observer.

Took all of 5 minutes.

The man asked after "What you got in that thing?"

I said "about $2500"
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Very cool stuff. Good morning Dr. :-)

Got a simile fer ya.

Used to 4 wheel in the tiger road area in Breckenridge. The wanna be rock crawler tourists would come in deep and get stuck in the logged stump field or some advanced spot with their 80k built up Toyota land cruisers with the snorkels and lift kits.

We stumbled upon a stranded family baby included who had been stuck a while. No water. No tow rope. No food. Very expensive custom land cruiser.

I promptly pulled him out with my half painted dented up a bit old dodge 93 pickup. Had a few hidden goodies but nothing fancy or even noticible to the casual observer.

Took all of 5 minutes.

The man asked after "What you got in that thing?"

I said "about $2500"
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YEEE HAAWWW!

You know there are cross state trails for 4 wheelers in the UP right? Cpl of them go all the way around the UP and several are used by the snowmachine guys in the winter. You need to be able to ford a creek/river that'll come up to about your windshield.....on the main one. Took the wife on a tour of the UP that way one summer. (88 Toyota PU with a snorkel option from the factory. Had a small camper on it. She was lifted both ways and ran the old bias super swampers on the trail (Trailer those up and swap tires/rims - storage the trailer and the radial road tires till back).....

It's a great trip!
 
Rayne

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Warning: For those that favor the pseudo-science that is rampantly pushed on a large number of cannabis related web forums the following information may be too much for you to handle.

As written in Chapter 2 "Introduction to Horticulture" on page 17 (13 of the pdf file) of California Master Gardener Handbook...
The process of growth is controlled by the integration of a plant’s genetic potential and the surrounding environmental conditions. Plant growth requires a source of water, carbohydrates, chemical energy, and mineral nutrients.
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Photosynthesis is the process by which green plants produce their own carbohydrates, or nutrients, and obtain a source of chemical energy.
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Plant cells, in the presence of chlorophyll and light, convert carbon dioxide (CO2)and water (H2O) to carbohydrates (simple sugars), thereby transforming light energy into stored chemical energy. Energy is stored in the chemical bonds of the carbohydrate molecules(C6H12O6) that are synthesized in the process.
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As found on the next page (14 of the pdf file)
The chemically rich carbohydrates formed in photosynthesis are first metabolized and then combined with certain essential mineral elements (e.g., nitrogen, sulfur, magnesium, phosphorus) to synthesize more complex compounds needed to produce new cells (growth); or converted to more complex carbohydrates (sugars and starch) or fats and stored in fruits, seeds, stems, or roots; or biologically combusted to release the chemical energy needed for cells to function.
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Respiration is the process in which chemical energy is obtained from the controlled biological breakdown of carbohydrates. Superficially, it is the reverse process of photosynthesis.
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MichiganMedGrower

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Rayne said:
Warning: For those that favor the pseudo-science that is rampantly pushed on a large number of cannabis related web forums the following information may be too much for you to handle.

As written in Chapter 2 "Introduction to Horticulture" on page 17 (13 of the pdf file) of California Master Gardener Handbook...


As found on the next page (14 of the pdf file)
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Wasn't this thread about light spectrum and how it affects the amount of photosynthesis and respiration?

That's not covered in this article. I appreciate the horticulture 101 though. I find most don't read much at all.
 
mauricem00

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MichiganMedGrower said:
The Hortilux Super HPS bulbs have about 25% blue light to red. They grow very nice buds but as @Dr. Who mentioned I wonder about my long flowering times and although I am more than happy with my results this year I still chose the new fuller spectrum lamp to expand my room.

I want to say it "feels" better in there with the 92 CRI bulb mixed in.

I expect even higher thc and terpene content from buds finished under the full spectrum lamp.

We will see in a few weeks if finishing under it makes a difference.
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I don't think you will be disappointed with that CMH light. T5 growers like RM3 and myself have found that violet and UV light produces stronger, better tasting product. and that CMH bulb produces a near perfect spectrum for plant growth.looking into getting a 150 watt CMH bulb for a 2ft by 2ft experimental closet grow.I can legally grow 12 plants but only have room for 3 plants in my 2ft by 4 ft T5 closet.
 
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I like it already. But It has spurred some kind of foxtail outbreak on my finishing plant. It was not growing funny under the Hortulux HPS. But I just installed it and never used one so I have do dial in the ventilation and circulation from the new open lamp. It may have been too hot right under the new lamp.

It is extremely intense under the sunlight supply reflector. Definitely more intense than a 400 HPS or MH.

But I sure hope I don't end up with leafy spindly buds like @RM3 just for the appearance of frostier weed.

There are actual professionals out there with real data proving these things. Rm3 uses way too much Blue light and basically grows frosty leaves. We are expected to grow some buds with some weight.

He also thinks his opinion is scientific fact. I read all of his silly books (just more of his threads) and he thinks like a newb. If something seems to work lets just add more.

And the things he is actually correct about are easily researched and well known for many years.
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too much of anything is not good. I use roseate bulbs to get deep red and run about 6% UV during flowering.I don't claim to be an expert. i've been doing this for a few years and am still learning.I try to match the absorption spectrum of plants with my lights and that CMH bulb comes close
 

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the 4200k CMH seems to supply plenty of deep red. it is really only needed to stimulate phytochrome ( what some refer to as the flowering enzyme)during flowering
 
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