SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

[budLIFE60]

OK so here's the best shot I could get of the res and wick. Lots of good roots.

The discoloring of the water is from the coco I would guess. Doesn't really have to much of an odor. Smells pretty much like soaked coco. Honestly I've really been able to let these plants grow and do their thing. I've only watered them once in almost two months when I filled the container

 

[budLIFE60]

Thought I would post up a shot of my other sip tent. Its a little more simple than my other one I have. Just 12 gallon containers filled with perlite a couple inches to the top. Set your fabric pots on top I used 2 gal for this, and water about 1 inch from the bottom of your pot.


In this case I have 4 containers. 15 plants here. Gonna take some clones today, weed out the males and flip to flowering soon.

 

[Evil-Mobo]

@budLIFE60

Fantastic pics thanks for sharing. Those roots look great. When I ran my SIP's the roots exploded out into the res as well. I am curious to try a no till SIP here in the near future now that I am doing that in fabric pots but not sure how the plastic would fair for the worms .............

 

[FootFungus]

I see most are saying no air stones, but I was told you can run them in octopots but put them on a 12/12 timer or the water would get too much oxygen. I'm running them on 12/12 seems to be ok. I will probably take one out of the next run to compare side by side with and without.

 

[ttystikk]

I see most are saying no air stones, but I was told you can run them in octopots but put them on a 12/12 timer or the water would get too much oxygen. I'm running them on 12/12 seems to be ok. I will probably take one out of the next run to compare side by side with and without.

Too much oxygen, lol

Fucking bro science at work right there!

Saturating water with dissolved oxygen isn't hard. OVER saturating it is very difficult. Feel free to run the air stones full time.

 

[Tim Fox]

I see most are saying no air stones, but I was told you can run them in octopots but put them on a 12/12 timer or the water would get too much oxygen. I'm running them on 12/12 seems to be ok. I will probably take one out of the next run to compare side by side with and without.

the Sips work both ways,, with air stones or without,, without stones its more like a Hempy bucket in design,, with stones more like a DWC soil hybrid situation,,
Stock wise the octopot and earthbox do not use airstones,, and work fantastic,,
with stones,, well they work fantastic,, lol,,,
i would say thats a WIN WIN

 

[Weedy willy]

In a octopot, do you use a nute solution all the time or feed as you would normally?

 

[ttystikk]

In a octopot, do you use a nute solution all the time or feed as you would normally?

I'd like to hear about this as well, as I'm planning to run nutrient solution.

 

[Humanrob]

In a octopot, do you use a nute solution all the time or feed as you would normally?

Paging @captainmorgan

 

[Tim Fox]

In a octopot, do you use a nute solution all the time or feed as you would normally?

Depends on the medium used

 

[Weedy willy]

My medium is mix of ffof, black gold, perlite, and peat moss. Recycled from previous grow, sterilized and amened with 1 cup plant tone per cubic foot. My plan was to start out with plain water, then start feeding when needed using the dyna gro nutes.

 

[Tim Fox]

My medium is mix of ffof, black gold, perlite, and peat moss. Recycled from previous grow, sterilized and amened with 1 cup plant tone per cubic foot. My plan was to start out with plain water, then start feeding when needed using the dyna gro nutes.

I am in a simular type soil mix,, and it sounds to me like you have more than enough nutes for water only alright, but with it being a re use, and not a no till set up,, you probably will need nutes during flower,,
I decided to start adding some Fox Farms liquid Big Bloom to my Sip res today, I am going to add it at half strength using the hydroponic schedule in the res, so i added 3 teaspoons to 2 gallons and filled the res,, along with 1 teaspoon of cal mag

dyna gro nutes.

are these Organic liquid nutes,, or are they a Salt based Nute?,, i should google it

Here is a pic of my Sip Grow just about 3 weeks in flower,, So Far its been Water only plus cal mag

When @captainmorgan chimes in,, he can share what his current medium is, but if memory serves me he is a more soiless type?,, i could be wrong,, its been a while since i checked his tread, But i do recall he was running about half strenght nutes in the GG4 grows, but there was some nute in the medium,, @SomeGuy and Hyroot were notill i think,, at least hyroot was,, but i do recall someguy saying he was water only and Hyroot was water only , but hyroot was messing around with wormbins and true no till

 

[Evil-Mobo]

I don't know about the cal/mag but that particular FF is organic. I use it on some smaller pots sometimes as a compost tea. It's just basically guanos and EWC if you look at the ingredients. On a larger scale it makes no sense though as how much it uses per gallon..........

 

[ttystikk]

I am in a simular type soil mix,, and it sounds to me like you have more than enough nutes for water only alright, but with it being a re use, and not a no till set up,, you probably will need nutes during flower,,
I decided to start adding some Fox Farms liquid Big Bloom to my Sip res today, I am going to add it at half strength using the hydroponic schedule in the res, so i added 3 teaspoons to 2 gallons and filled the res,, along with 1 teaspoon of cal mag

are these Organic liquid nutes,, or are they a Salt based Nute?,, i should google itView attachment 3850318

Here is a pic of my Sip Grow just about 3 weeks in flower,, So Far its been Water only plus cal magView attachment 3850320

When @captainmorgan chimes in,, he can share what his current medium is, but if memory serves me he is a more soiless type?,, i could be wrong,, its been a while since i checked his tread, But i do recall he was running about half strenght nutes in the GG4 grows, but there was some nute in the medium,, @SomeGuy and Hyroot were notill i think,, at least hyroot was,, but i do recall someguy saying he was water only and Hyroot was water only , but hyroot was messing around with wormbins and true no till

Those are salt based nutes, whether they ultimately came from organic sources or not.

 

[Weedy willy]

I am in a simular type soil mix,, and it sounds to me like you have more than enough nutes for water only alright, but with it being a re use, and not a no till set up,, you probably will need nutes during flower,,
I decided to start adding some Fox Farms liquid Big Bloom to my Sip res today, I am going to add it at half strength using the hydroponic schedule in the res, so i added 3 teaspoons to 2 gallons and filled the res,, along with 1 teaspoon of cal mag

are these Organic liquid nutes,, or are they a Salt based Nute?,, i should google itView attachment 3850318

Here is a pic of my Sip Grow just about 3 weeks in flower,, So Far its been Water only plus cal magView attachment 3850320

When @captainmorgan chimes in,, he can share what his current medium is, but if memory serves me he is a more soiless type?,, i could be wrong,, its been a while since i checked his tread, But i do recall he was running about half strenght nutes in the GG4 grows, but there was some nute in the medium,, @SomeGuy and Hyroot were notill i think,, at least hyroot was,, but i do recall someguy saying he was water only and Hyroot was water only , but hyroot was messing around with wormbins and true no till

Yes, it is salt based is that bad, will I have to flush pot and reservoir more often, when using sip? With your setup will you use the nute solution all the way through flower, except for flushing at the end? Also what is no till setup?

 

[Weedy willy]

Here's what the website says, All the nutrients are in solution, leaving no harmful salt burn from clumps of undissolved fertilizer. Plants take up the complete nutrient formula requiring little or no flushing. Use Dyna-Gro in foliar, drip or mist applications without clogging irrigation lines or burning plants. ... are safe to use on all plants.

 

[Tim Fox]

Those are salt based nutes, whether they ultimately came from organic sources or not.

I thought grow big and tiger bloom were salt based but not big bloom ?

 

[Tim Fox]

Yes , it is salt based is that bad, will I have to flush pot and reservoir more often, when using sip? With your setup will you use the nute solution all the way through flower, except for flushing at the end? Also what is no till setup?

Salt based nutes in a soil sip grow sounds like a recipe for trouble, a Build up of salt in the soil can't be flushed properly without screwing with the wick function , some guys top feed lightly and I mean light with teas in a sip

D

 

[ttystikk]

I thought grow big and tiger bloom were salt based but not big bloom ?

Calcium nitrate is still calcium nitrate, no matter where it's originally sourced from.

What's the difference between natural and manufactured ascorbic acid? One may have been made by an orange, but they're both still exactly the same vitamin C.

 

[Tim Fox]

Calcium nitrate is still calcium nitrate, no matter where it's originally sourced from.

What's the difference between natural and manufactured ascorbic acid? One may have been made by an orange, but they're both still exactly the same vitamin C.

i am not seeing calcium nitrate in the ingrediants list

Ingredients: Earthworm castings, bat and seabird guano, rock phosphate, sulfate of potash magnesia (a mined natural mineral) Norwegian kelp.

is the rock phosphate or the sulfate potash what your speaking of?,,, or are we talking about 2 differant products