Quantum Boards LED Plug n Play HID Duct cooled retrofit Kit

[Stephenj37826]

Is that peppers, lettuce and some type of squash or pumpkin plant? are those boards held in place with those screws that rest on the glass? Looks like if you opened that glass(or bumped it the wrong way) all that stuff would fall out. Metal resting on glass seems like a bad idea to me, sounds like a recipe for broken glass and stuff falling out of that unit.

The feet are rubberized and yes it's sitting on the glass but the legs are adjustable for a semi tight fit. The unit is all inclusive so no need to worry about things falling out. It's 1 piece. It literally took 5 mins to put it in. We didn't take the fixture down. Most have suspension cables that allow the glass to only partially open.

 

[Shugglet]

From an economic point of view I feel it might be a little silly to be an early adopter for something like this.

The tech is simply moving too fast right now to justify spending such a premium on hardware, imo.

 

[Yodaweed]

The feet are rubberized and yes it's sitting on the glass but the legs are adjustable for a semi tight fit. The unit is all inclusive so no need to worry about things falling out. It's 1 piece. It literally took 5 mins to put it in. We didn't take the fixture down. Most have suspension cables that allow the glass to only partially open.

The cable doesn't stop it from opening it stops it from falling when you open it(it works like a hinge almost), at least thats how my block busters are, i wouldnt put weight on that glass in there, definitely not made to support weight.

 

[Shugglet]

The cable doesn't stop it from opening it stops it from falling when you open it(it works like a hinge almost), at least thats how my block busters are, i wouldnt put weight on that glass in there, definitely not made to support weight.

It should easily be able to handle a small static load like that without any problem. Hell, wrapping paper could probably support it.

 

[Yodaweed]

It should easily be able to handle a small static load like that without any problem. Hell, wrapping paper could probably support it.

Metal against glass = bad idea , one wrong bump and that thing will shatter with those metal pieces resting on it, it's a good idea i just think it needs better execution.

 

[Stephenj37826]

Metal against glass = bad idea , one wrong bump and that thing will shatter with those metal pieces resting on it, it's a good idea i just think it needs better execution.

The feet are rubber

 

[Shugglet]

Metal against glass = bad idea , one wrong bump and that thing will shatter with those metal pieces resting on it, it's a good idea i just think it needs better execution.

Good thing thats not the case then, right? (you even quoted the fact that its not) And even still, one small bump would not shatter that glass. If you shake the hell out of the fixture, maybe.

Also, it would be stupid easy to suspend it from the top of the fixture if you were really that worried about it.

 

[Yodaweed]

The feet are rubber

Ahhh , still not crazy about resting anything on that glass but i guess that makes it a bit safer.

 

[Yodaweed]

Good thing thats not the case then, right? (you even quoted the fact that its not) And even still, one small bump would not shatter that glass. If you shake the hell out of the fixture, maybe.

Also, it would be stupid easy to suspend it from the top of the fixture if you were really that worried about it.

Yea i was wrong but still wouldnt feel great about how that thing is held in there, just looks like an accident waiting to happen. The suspending thing would probably be the best bet, drill some holes in the top and bolt it in there.

 

[Stephenj37826]

Yea i was wrong but still wouldnt feel great about how that thing is held in there, just looks like an accident waiting to happen. The suspending thing would probably be the best bet, drill some holes in the top and bolt it in there.

Yeah I would prefer that but I'm kinda wanted to make something that didn't have to have a drill involved. I bolted the first one in lol.

 

[CobKits]

@Stephenj37826 came up with this cool idea of a Plug n Play HID Duct cooled retrofit Kit using the LED's
Lets see what it looks like.

Math first...

i was told there would be no math

 

[Stephenj37826]

From an economic point of view I feel it might be a little silly to be an early adopter for something like this.

The tech is simply moving too fast right now to justify spending such a premium on hardware, imo.

If you look at the output you get and the efficiency the price isn't bad. Look around at comparable DIY kits and there cost at less efficiency. HIDs require a ballast and bulb. Leds require drivers and I don't see that cost droping much for high efficiency units. $699 for a 540 watt stand alone ready to use fixture that uses some of the most efficient leds available with meanwell drivers is a hell of a deal if you ask me.

 

[Stephenj37826]

i was told there would be no math

Have you popped one of the boards in that sphere of yours yet?

 

[Shugglet]

If you look at the output you get and the efficiency the price isn't bad. Look around at comparable DIY kits and there cost at less efficiency. HIDs require a ballast and bulb. Leds require drivers and I don't see that cost droping much for high efficiency units. $699 for a 540 watt stand alone ready to use fixture that uses some of the most efficient leds available with meanwell drivers is a hell of a deal if you ask me.

My point is to look at how much COB prices have dropped in the past 18 months or so... So you might consider it a "hell of a deal" now, but Id say wait a year or two, and if the prices come down accordingly, then itll probably qualify.

 

[Stephenj37826]

Sure in 2 years though look how much extra energy and bulb changes has costed. The same can be said about TVs phones computers ect. You buy a computer today next year it will be better. At some point you just bite the bullet and jump in.

 

[Shugglet]

Sure in 2 years though look how much extra energy and bulb changes has costed.

Im extremely curious as to how this would turn out. Something tells me its not that big of a difference or it would be a bigger selling/marketing point.

The biggest thing I see, is that these seem to be in some sort of middle ground between retail and DIY, but at closer to retail pricing imo.

 

[Stephenj37826]

Im extremely curious as to how this would turn out. Something tells me its not that big of a difference or it would be a bigger selling/marketing point.

The biggest thing I see, is that these seem to be in some sort of middle ground between retail and DIY, but at closer to retail pricing imo.

Compare it to cob kit prices per watt......... This is the frame wires everything.

 

[Stephenj37826]

For the duct cooled unit its a $1.29 per watt.

 

[Shugglet]

For the duct cooled unit its a $1.29 per watt.

But isnt that a bit misleading as it uses hardware you already paid for (a hood)?

In that regard, is cooling efficient enough to run those at max load without ducting or other additional hardware?

 

[Stephenj37826]

But isnt that a bit misleading as it uses hardware you already paid for (a hood)?

In that regard, is cooling efficient enough to run those at max load without ducting or other additional hardware?

The stand alone is. So it's 50 extra bucks so that's 1.39 per watt. Assembled