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[lex660nm]

Mine started at 185 watts. Energy efficient mode kicks in and starts cutting out leds maybe.

sounds alot like my top quality state of the art growlight marshydro mars2 900, after having awesome par Levels from 12 cm and an even coverage about the same size of the lights casing,,anyway after 6-7 months use it went to eco-mode too and started recycling the blues into Brown looking leds. luckily there are also zener diodes besides them so i can see the awesome autumnchange in nm as they occur without going all blackout Armageddon

 

[goofy81]

First off there is no way you pulled 1.5 from your 4x4's I saw the grow and actually felt bad for you with All those lights hanging.

Second off You came in again like asshole with your ridiculous comments putting down a grower and light company. All I asked was for you to post results so there could be some sort of comparison here. Thank you 1.5lbs from a 4x4 what ever that works out to gpw.

From my experience (some of shitty grows, some decent grows) its impossible to tell how much dried weight by just looking at the size of the bud while its still on the plant.
The first time i used LED i thought, shit this tree only going to give me 1/2 a pound. But during cutting there was hope because they were all ROCK solid.
Then during weigh-in bone dry, I ended up with on average easily over 1bs per tree.
I've, in the past grown monster buds on HPS only for them to dry out airy and weightless.

 

[goofy81]

So much hatred on this forum lately.
Here's some pictures to relax everyone taken from my phone.
Vegged using under 1000 watts! expecting 20lbs flowering with 6000watts

 

[sixstring2112]

Your a mosquito in a big fucking pond. Mr humble coming in with 100+ plant grows shitting on leds. Lol good to see you making a trip back to the ghetto to say hello to us poor folks. That's a minimum of 80k with a 15k operating cost. Not a bad 2 month. Part of why I like the faster autos my man. Imagine something like pm or mites wiping that grow out at day 120. Less risk with a quick crop. Less yield but that's only subject to completion. Like playing roulette, the longer you sit at the table the higher your loss rate will be. Keep us posted bro. Love to see how you make out. HMU if your in need. Got a few homer buckets left.

im not getting any of this math lmao.the op costs musta had a 10x multiplier because it only cost me 1500.00 a month to run a 12kw flower and 1800w veg plus my house and charging multiple dump trailers so idk where the hell the 15 k op cost comes from.as far as op costs on plants,do you shut down every time you harvest @Big smo ? because alot of us run our gardens 24/7 365 days a year for multiple years so op costs are a non issue as far as veg times and flower times none of that shit matters if your op is going 365 so now your whole auto thingy is cheaper means you just like autos right? i think i read you spent "hundreds" of hours disecting all these details ? if you have questions about photo plants or need help with operating costs just ask,i think i can help you
and when you run a bigboy op 365 and you drop electric use by just 5% that can add up real quickly in the profit column.so the dif between overdriven cobs at 385 to 40% eff and softer driven cobs @ 56% can be huuuuge in larger scale growing.this is why some of us think amare not listing particulars on a credible website is kinda fishy,because anyone can take a cob and hit it with 150w and fans,but at some point its cheaper to just stick to hps. i dont get the mother plant and cloning thing either,but ill leave that for another topic lol.

 

[lex660nm]

im not getting any of this math lmao.the op costs musta had a 10x multiplier because it only cost me 1500.00 a month to run a 12kw flower and 1800w veg plus my house and charging multiple dump trailers so idk where the hell the 15 k op cost comes from.as far as op costs on plants,do you shut down every time you harvest @Big smo ? because alot of us run our gardens 24/7 365 days a year for multiple years so op costs are a non issue as far as veg times and flower times none of that shit matters if your op is going 365 so now your whole auto thingy is cheaper means you just like autos right? i think i read you spent "hundreds" of hours disecting all these details ? if you have questions about photo plants or need help with operating costs just ask,i think i can help you
and when you run a bigboy op 365 and you drop electric use by just 5% that can add up real quickly in the profit column.so the dif between overdriven cobs at 385 to 40% eff and softer driven cobs @ 56% can be huuuuge in larger scale growing.this is why some of us think amare not listing particulars on a credible website is kinda fishy,because anyone can take a cob and hit it with 150w and fans,but at some point its cheaper to just stick to hps. i dont get the mother plant and cloning thing either,but ill leave that for another topic lol.

sounds like you know for ex: cxb efficiancy and so on, so i dont want to participate in the arguement between brands or whatever as i belive there are more lights out there and so on
but i would really love to hear Your input on cree cxb 3070 3000k ad bin, where would you say soft driven ends normal starts and overdriven srats in my lack of the zones

im getting buildt a New growlight now With above mentioned cobs x 6 and 72 x Osram ssl 80 diodes at 600mA, but im not sure where to lay the mA for the cobs, been thinking about Three Choices i have but i probably dont want the highest mA of those (1300mA) as i rather want lower wattage higher efficiancy on par.
so how efficient or how big difference would 870mA, 1050mA and 1300mA translate to on a good aircooled pinheatsink as growmau5 has shown in vs fin heatsinks if Your familiar With him?

would really appreciat the time it would take you to answer me if you know the differences i ask of

stay lifted
peace

 

[sixstring2112]

sounds like you know for ex: cxb efficiancy and so on, so i dont want to participate in the arguement between brands or whatever as i belive there are more lights out there and so on
but i would really love to hear Your input on cree cxb 3070 3000k ad bin, where would you say soft driven ends normal starts and overdriven srats in my lack of the zones

im getting buildt a New growlight now With above mentioned cobs x 6 and 72 x Osram ssl 80 diodes at 600mA, but im not sure where to lay the mA for the cobs, been thinking about Three Choices i have but i probably dont want the highest mA of those (1300mA) as i rather want lower wattage higher efficiancy on par.
so how efficient or how big difference would 870mA, 1050mA and 1300mA translate to on a good aircooled pinheatsink as growmau5 has shown in vs fin heatsinks if Your familiar With him?

would really appreciat the time it would take you to answer me if you know the differences i ask of

stay lifted
peace

well i never ran those older 3070 cobs but have seen some great grows with them.you can run 6 of them off the mmeanwell hlg 240-1050 nicely though and get good eff.my thoughts on the high power/low power line is i think anything over 50w on the 3590 -36v is a waste and i prefer the 35w driven @ 1050ma but thats nothing scientific just what im seeing in my room.theres really no difference in my plants between the 35w cobs and the 75w cobs and i have bars running at 35w ,50w, 63w, and 75w all on the same 3590 chips and i just dont see the big deal by driving harder.talk to @robincnn on heatsinks as i dont know if the 3070 will mount on any of his pin fin heatsinks but his 120mm round style is a great value for up to 50w passive. but i would say 20w to 35 w is soft driven,35w to 62w is normal yet huge dif between 35 and 62,and anything over 75w starts to have diminished returns imo.but thats not to say a chip like the shitizens @ 100w are not eff.i just have no experience with them.

 

[CobKits]

3070 in a holder is a "35mm" cob and fits robins sinks

a cxm 22 is also a 35mm cob

a $12 clu048-1212 is as efficient as a $22 cxb3070 at 35W
a $17 cxm22 is as efficient at 50W as a $22 cxb 3070 is at 35W

 

[Big smo]

Operating operation both begin with Op. that's actually what my third room just cost me to get setup. Please explain how the length of a plants life doesn't matter if your growing 365 days a year? If you yield the same but can pull an extra harvest or 2 wouldn't that result in more money lol. I get it allot of the folks here don't care for autos. I came from photos and still run a few now, trust me I wouldn't be doing autos if I was going backwards. Photos are easier I'll give you that.

We can do the whole big boy op Dick measuring but I'm not doing it here. Especially not after I was robbed. Just continue to think your the best and in your mind you will be.

 

[lex660nm]

well i personally wont buy in to neither vero or citizen cobs or any other New brands i dont have a trackrecord on.
i like cree, Osram and luxeon in ledbrands and will not change in near future. as far as efficiency and cheaper prices ++ i really dont care cause at some point my favourite brands will be once again well Ahead of competitors and thats just how it is i Guess,all have their specialities that at one point are considered the best on the market until competing brands releases their New Tech and so on..
i prefer brands With many years positive feedback and grows i trust in various growing communities.
im not buying a ``marshydro`` ever again because its cheap and claimed to be better or as good as others, ì`ll stick to cree luxeon and Osram as said earlier,but thanks for trying to sell other Products,just not for me.and pricewise i am Lucky to be sponsored by a reseller of topbin leds that actually orders in exactly what brand and model i want too

but for others i really see the efficiancy price saving point is important

peace

 

[lex660nm]

Operating operation both begin with Op. that's actually what my third room just cost me to get setup. Please explain how the length of a plants life doesn't matter if your growing 365 days a year? If you yield the same but can pull an extra harvest or 2 wouldn't that result in more money lol. I get it allot of the folks here don't care for autos. I came from photos and still run a few now, trust me I wouldn't be doing autos if I was going backwards. Photos are easier I'll give you that.

We can do the whole big boy op Dick measuring but I'm not doing it here. Especially not after I was robbed. Just continue to think your the best and in your mind you will be.

i yielded the most With autos in time from seed to harvest, gram pr watt, and Space used to produce it.

grown photos 15+ years and autos +the last 2-3 years and still prefer both just as you say.
different setups and all and more phenovariation in pheno seeking from seed,and the autos have the beutifull benefit for me to be germed,and vegged along With photos, and With Space issues it can even flower alongside photos in Growth or motherplants and so on.

i could easily yield a pound+ 400w (not top bin light at all)from quality autoflower Genetics in less than 80 days in a 1 square meter area, in 80 days i cant do that With photos With my growstyle and setups. so i do whats best for me and know when i get a topbin ssl 80 leds + top bin cxb cob light way more efficient than the one i used until now. i know i can get between 1,5 and 2gpw With New lights and so on when i easily got over 1gpw With more ineficient lights not dialed in at all as it was first try With that setup and lights.

 

[sixstring2112]

Operating operation both begin with Op. that's actually what my third room just cost me to get setup. Please explain how the length of a plants life doesn't matter if your growing 365 days a year? If you yield the same but can pull an extra harvest or 2 wouldn't that result in more money lol. I get it allot of the folks here don't care for autos. I came from photos and still run a few now, trust me I wouldn't be doing autos if I was going backwards. Photos are easier I'll give you that.

We can do the whole big boy op Dick measuring but I'm not doing it here. Especially not after I was robbed. Just continue to think your the best and in your mind you will be.

veg feeds the flower room.flowering indica dom strains takes 55 to 70 days lets say 8 weeks but more like 7 under led.do autos flower in less than 7 weeks?
i cut a plant i replace that plant with another from veg.both rooms run 365,so where do i fit this mythical "extra harvest" in ? i lmao every time i see you try to explain how to grow to us when you just said 2 months ago you were finishing your first run ever.just stop spreading false info and maybe you could learn a few things around here.i get that you want to be like your big bro hybrid.heres a tip on getting robbed.if you associate with loser idiots bad things will happen i doubt your situation had anything to do with posting online unless you run around your hood showing pics of your online postings or tell all your buddys what your doing.idk what you doing with your budget but i have built out several grow rooms for profit that range in size from 2 kw to 30 kw flowering rooms.the numbers you speak of make me think you pay the top retail each price on everything or are simply telling tall tales.i see your building some diy stuff and you already had the auto room running so i will assume your just driving around town tossing 100's out the car windows now spending all that cabbage nice work

chill smo bro,im just tryin to put these # into perspective oh shit i forgot you like those amares so yeah a 2 kw op would be about 8k just in 5 or 6 panels hahahaha,now im just beiing silly

 

[Big smo]

Your right I actually finished my first grow yesterday. You grow the biggest plants I have ever seen. I do live in a hood, in love cabbage and do throw money out my window. I am foolish for chopping every 35-40 days because you still run perpetual with autos you stupid shit. See that picture above? That's ONE room and those plants say in there for 40 days max. There are already more just showing preflowers. 35-40 days they will be chopped. This just shows that you are that stupid.

 

[KarmaPaymentPlan]

Your right I actually finished my first grow yesterday. You grow the biggest plants I have ever seen. I do live in a hood, in love cabbage and do throw money out my window. I am foolish for chopping every 35-40 days because you still run perpetual with autos you stupid shit. See that picture above? That's ONE room and those plants say in there for 40 days max. There are already more just showing preflowers. 35-40 days they will be chopped. This just shows that you are that stupid.

thats a typical Amare crew response lol

chill smo bro,im just tryin to put these # into perspective

 

[Greengenes707]

Your right I actually finished my first grow yesterday. You grow the biggest plants I have ever seen. I do live in a hood, in love cabbage and do throw money out my window. I am foolish for chopping every 35-40 days because you still run perpetual with autos you stupid shit. See that picture above? That's ONE room and those plants say in there for 40 days max. There are already more just showing preflowers. 35-40 days they will be chopped. This just shows that you are that stupid.

How do you run your autos 12/12, 18/16, 24/0?

 

[sixstring2112]

Your right I actually finished my first grow yesterday. You grow the biggest plants I have ever seen. I do live in a hood, in love cabbage and do throw money out my window. I am foolish for chopping every 35-40 days because you still run perpetual with autos you stupid shit. See that picture above? That's ONE room and those plants say in there for 40 days max. There are already more just showing preflowers. 35-40 days they will be chopped. This just shows that you are that stupid.

priceless.im going to chop down my whole room and plant autos now,brb

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Autos..............LOL, outdoors I totally would use them though

 

[lex660nm]

in my situation With Limited Space,limited watts, Limited clones of quality available, and lots of quality autoflowers available has been the case and if i had a Perpetual veg/clone speace for photos i have no doubt i could dial in better results that are more homogenous from plant to plant too, but i dont atm have acsess to quality clones or nursery`s or trustworthty clones when it comes to Genetics so for me at least Dutch passion autofems have done more than i expected in Shorter time than expected and the selections ive had of their autofems have grown better results than the clones i would have had acsess to in that time.

400g + trim from a 1 square meter tent(2m tall) in 81 days. no world record but im satisfied to be 2nd try With Dutch passion autos, done many other brand autos earlier years never coming Close in quality and yield except a couple of white widow max autoflower phenos from another breeder.

stay lifted everyone

 

[mauricem00]

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I started growing back in February with with one 400 watt metal halide lamp and 2 by 4 tent ..fast forward 10 months and I'm running a 12,000 watt grow with over a 100 plants . Crazy how shit goes sometimes .. and to think my ole pal Resinhound didn't believe in me lol..
but to be honest the guys criticism inspired me to educate myself and to focus on growing the best fucking pot that I can .

I've learned more in 10 months about growing than I have learned about any other particular subject In my life.
And thing is I've barely scratched the surface .
I notice that there's a ton of drama on this forum and at one point I got wrapped up in it .. my goal is growing good pot in hefty quantity and continuing to learn as I go .

Current grow are autos of 10 different varieties
110 plants
Temp between 68-74 degrees
Humidity 40%
24 hour a day lights on for vegging

Leds are alright I suppose if you have the right ones but to be fair and honest about my growing results traditional lights work better for me
I spent over 10,000$ on leds months ago and as I kept expanding my grow I acquired several more lights ( 1000 watt hps and mh) and for me in my experience they produce more desirable results, but before anyone attacks my statement lol read what I said , tradional lights seem work better for me .
I'll keep using my leds because I made the hefty investment .

To me it's not about having the coolest fixtures anymore , it's about the growing experience and the pleasure that brings me .
Bickering about who's got the best light doesn't help anyone guys..
but spreading knowledge about growing does .
That's my 2 cents that no one asked for lol

I don't really come on this forum anymore but just like to pop in on occasion to update my progress to the very few who still care about what I'm posting lol

Ho ho ho and have a merry fucking Christmas dear patrons of Rollitup

you are not alone in your experience. I have tried LEDs. both mars hydro and DIY COBs and have gotten better results with more conventional lights and others have had the same experience. some people love them and some feel they are a waste of money. we all do what works best for us.there is no one best light. there is only what works best for you in your grow room.i'm too old to worry about being "cool" anymore

 

[hillbill]

Started foolin' with leds in the blurple days and have been predominately white led and cob for almost 3 years with 6 to 12 sq ft in flower. COBs and now quantum boards and who knows what next year make choices easier by the day. HID is passing away. HPS has had a good run and will still make the same great herb it always had but COBs really do produce a lot more light energy per watt. And that light is of a very full spectrum of light usable for our purposes.

Just an LED user uniting here!

 

[mauricem00]

dang this thread has been going for almost 8 years. that must be some kind of record