sounds alot like my top quality state of the art growlight marshydro mars2 900, after having awesome par Levels from 12 cm and an even coverage about the same size of the lights casing,,anyway after 6-7 months use it went to eco-mode too and started recycling the blues into Brown looking leds. luckily there are also zener diodes besides them so i can see the awesome autumnchange in nm as they occur without going all blackout Armageddon
From my experience (some of shitty grows, some decent grows) its impossible to tell how much dried weight by just looking at the size of the bud while its still on the plant.
im not getting any of this math lmao.the op costs musta had a 10x multiplier because it only cost me 1500.00 a month to run a 12kw flower and 1800w veg plus my house and charging multiple dump trailers so idk where the hell the 15 k op cost comes from.as far as op costs on plants,do you shut down every time you harvest @Big smo ? because alot of us run our gardens 24/7 365 days a year for multiple years so op costs are a non issue as far as veg times and flower times none of that shit matters if your op is going 365 so now your whole auto thingy is cheaper means you just like autos right? i think i read you spent "hundreds" of hours disecting all these details ? if you have questions about photo plants or need help with operating costs just ask,i think i can help youYour a mosquito in a big fucking pond. Mr humble coming in with 100+ plant grows shitting on leds.Lol good to see you making a trip back to the ghetto to say hello to us poor folks. That's a minimum of 80k with a 15k operating cost. Not a bad 2 month. Part of why I like the faster autos my man. Imagine something like pm or mites wiping that grow out at day 120. Less risk with a quick crop. Less yield but that's only subject to completion. Like playing roulette, the longer you sit at the table the higher your loss rate will be. Keep us posted bro. Love to see how you make out. HMU if your in need. Got a few homer buckets left.
sounds like you know for ex: cxb efficiancy and so on, so i dont want to participate in the arguement between brands or whatever as i belive there are more lights out there and so on
well i never ran those older 3070 cobs but have seen some great grows with them.you can run 6 of them off the mmeanwell hlg 240-1050 nicely though and get good eff.my thoughts on the high power/low power line is i think anything over 50w on the 3590 -36v is a waste and i prefer the 35w driven @ 1050ma but thats nothing scientific just what im seeing in my room.theres really no difference in my plants between the 35w cobs and the 75w cobs and i have bars running at 35w ,50w, 63w, and 75w all on the same 3590 chips and i just dont see the big deal by driving harder.talk to @robincnn on heatsinks as i dont know if the 3070 will mount on any of his pin fin heatsinks but his 120mm round style is a great value for up to 50w passive. but i would say 20w to 35 w is soft driven,35w to 62w is normal yet huge dif between 35 and 62,and anything over 75w starts to have diminished returns imo.but thats not to say a chip like the shitizens @ 100w are not eff.i just have no experience with them.sounds like you know for ex: cxb efficiancy and so on, so i dont want to participate in the arguement between brands or whatever as i belive there are more lights out there and so on
but i would really love to hear Your input on cree cxb 3070 3000k ad bin, where would you say soft driven ends normal starts and overdriven srats in my lack of the zones
im getting buildt a New growlight now With above mentioned cobs x 6 and 72 x Osram ssl 80 diodes at 600mA, but im not sure where to lay the mA for the cobs, been thinking about Three Choices i have but i probably dont want the highest mA of those (1300mA) as i rather want lower wattage higher efficiancy on par.
so how efficient or how big difference would 870mA, 1050mA and 1300mA translate to on a good aircooled pinheatsink as growmau5 has shown in vs fin heatsinks if Your familiar With him?
would really appreciat the time it would take you to answer me if you know the differences i ask of
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i yielded the most With autos in time from seed to harvest, gram pr watt, and Space used to produce it.
veg feeds the flower room.flowering indica dom strains takes 55 to 70 days lets say 8 weeks but more like 7 under led.do autos flower in less than 7 weeks?
i doubt your situation had anything to do with posting online unless you run around your hood showing pics of your online postings or tell all your buddys what your doing.idk what you doing with your budget but i have built out several grow rooms for profit that range in size from 2 kw to 30 kw flowering rooms.the numbers you speak of make me think you pay the top retail each price on everything or are simply telling tall tales.i see your building some diy stuff and you already had the auto room running so i will assume your just driving around town tossing 100's out the car windows now spending all that cabbage 
nice work 
oh shit i forgot you like those amares so yeah a 2 kw op would be about 8k just in 5 or 6 panels hahahaha,now im just beiing silly 
thats a typical Amare crew response lol
chill smo bro,im just tryin to put these # into perspective
How do you run your autos 12/12, 18/16, 24/0?
priceless.im going to chop down my whole room and plant autos now,brb
you are not alone in your experience. I have tried LEDs. both mars hydro and DIY COBs and have gotten better results with more conventional lights and others have had the same experience. some people love them and some feel they are a waste of money. we all do what works best for us.there is no one best light. there is only what works best for you in your grow room.i'm too old to worry about being "cool" anymoreI started growing back in February with with one 400 watt metal halide lamp and 2 by 4 tent ..fast forward 10 months and I'm running a 12,000 watt grow with over a 100 plants . Crazy how shit goes sometimes .. and to think my ole pal Resinhound didn't believe in me lol..
but to be honest the guys criticism inspired me to educate myself and to focus on growing the best fucking pot that I can .
I've learned more in 10 months about growing than I have learned about any other particular subject In my life.
And thing is I've barely scratched the surface .
I notice that there's a ton of drama on this forum and at one point I got wrapped up in it .. my goal is growing good pot in hefty quantity and continuing to learn as I go .
Current grow are autos of 10 different varieties
110 plants
Temp between 68-74 degrees
Humidity 40%
24 hour a day lights on for vegging
Leds are alright I suppose if you have the right ones but to be fair and honest about my growing results traditional lights work better for me
I spent over 10,000$ on leds months ago and as I kept expanding my grow I acquired several more lights ( 1000 watt hps and mh) and for me in my experience they produce more desirable results, but before anyone attacks my statement lol read what I said , tradional lights seem work better for me .
I'll keep using my leds because I made the hefty investment .
To me it's not about having the coolest fixtures anymore , it's about the growing experience and the pleasure that brings me .
Bickering about who's got the best light doesn't help anyone guys..
but spreading knowledge about growing does .
That's my 2 cents that no one asked for lol
I don't really come on this forum anymore but just like to pop in on occasion to update my progress to the very few who still care about what I'm posting lol
Ho ho ho and have a merry fucking Christmas dear patrons of Rollitup
