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Justin-case

Justin-case

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ArcticGranite

ArcticGranite

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Moths to a flame, not heeding clear warning
Justin-case said:
val·ue·less
ˈvalyo͞oləs/
adjective
  1. having no value; worthless.
    "cherished but valueless heirlooms"
    synonyms: worthless, of no value, useless, to no purpose, (of) no use, profitless, futile, pointless, vain, in vain, to no avail,to no effect, fruitless, unproductive, idle, meretricious, ineffective, unavailing;
    archaicbootless
    "this box of rusty old hardware is valueless"
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The disclaimer was pretty clear. Don't read if you're offended.
 
ArcticGranite

ArcticGranite

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UncleBuck said:
are you really citing politifact's "lie of the year" after discrediting politifact?

you fucking moron.
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This is an allegory about bias. Sites aren't mostly false or half true. Their news may be.

The EC isn't a deliberative body. There's not a chance to bring 306 below 270 this Monday.
 
ArcticGranite

ArcticGranite

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When you're a hammer everything looks like a nail.

In 1964--to the disgust and dismay of most of my academic friends--I served as an economic adviser to Barry Goldwater during his quest for the Presidency. That year also, I was a Visiting Professor at Columbia University. The two together gave me a rare entree into the New York intellectual community. I talked to and argued with groups from academia, from the media, from the financial community, from the foundation world, from you name it. I was appalled at what I found. There was an unbelievable degree of intellectual homogeneity, of acceptance of a standard set of views complete with cliche answers to every objection, of smug self-satisfaction at belonging to an in-group. The closest similar experience I have ever had was at Cambridge, England, and even that was a distant second.
The homogeneity and provincialism of the New York intellectual community made them pushovers in discussions about Goldwater's views. They had cliche answers but only to their self-created straw-men. To exaggerate only slightly, they had never talked to anyone who really believed, and had thought deeply about, views drastically different from their own. As a result, when they heard real arguments instead of caricatures, they had no answers, only amazement that such views could be expressed by someone who had the external characteristics of being a member of the intellectual community, and that such views could be defended with apparent cogency. Never have I been more impressed with the advice I once received: "You cannot be sure that you are right unless you understand the arguments against your views better than your opponents do.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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ArcticGranite said:
When you're a hammer everything looks like a nail.

In 1964--to the disgust and dismay of most of my academic friends--I served as an economic adviser to Barry Goldwater during his quest for the Presidency. That year also, I was a Visiting Professor at Columbia University. The two together gave me a rare entree into the New York intellectual community. I talked to and argued with groups from academia, from the media, from the financial community, from the foundation world, from you name it. I was appalled at what I found. There was an unbelievable degree of intellectual homogeneity, of acceptance of a standard set of views complete with cliche answers to every objection, of smug self-satisfaction at belonging to an in-group. The closest similar experience I have ever had was at Cambridge, England, and even that was a distant second.
The homogeneity and provincialism of the New York intellectual community made them pushovers in discussions about Goldwater's views. They had cliche answers but only to their self-created straw-men. To exaggerate only slightly, they had never talked to anyone who really believed, and had thought deeply about, views drastically different from their own. As a result, when they heard real arguments instead of caricatures, they had no answers, only amazement that such views could be expressed by someone who had the external characteristics of being a member of the intellectual community, and that such views could be defended with apparent cogency. Never have I been more impressed with the advice I once received: "You cannot be sure that you are right unless you understand the arguments against your views better than your opponents do.
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tl;dr
morning Panhead.
 
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