Airwalker16
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Or are you on that Khatod train?KB 80-120's right TTY?
Or are you on that Khatod train?KB 80-120's right TTY?
It's a reflector. They aren't that different.This is why i asked my last question lol.you speak in absolutes as if you been there ,done that.but in this case its speculation on your part not having run the angelines.i have run them,but not lenses so you wont see me say one is better than the other.but based on the sphere tests i did see i have removed them.i would bet the lenses test similarly ,where there is around 6 or 7% losses from a bare cob.
King Brite glass 80 degree lenses. I'm very happy because they direct the light onto the canopy far more effectively.What lens are you running currently?
So in other words you just want to disagree.This is why i asked my last question lol.you speak in absolutes as if you been there ,done that.but in this case its speculation on your part not having run the angelines.i have run them,but not lenses so you wont see me say one is better than the other.but based on the sphere tests i did see i have removed them.i would bet the lenses test similarly ,where there is around 6 or 7% losses from a bare cob.
maybe lol.no man i just wanna know why you told the other guy lense are better than reflectors or bare cobs.now we know its just you being biased towards your own setup lmao.just like when i see a guy talk shit about de gavitas and they never ran one,i wont hesitate to call it out as speculation since i have firsthand knowledge in all types of lighting not just 1 or 2 lamps i can usually spot the bullshitters a mile away,you already know that though haha.So in other words you just want to disagree.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I made a design choice based on running bare vs lenses, and vs reflectors.maybe lol.no man i just wanna know why you told the other guy lense are better than reflectors or bare cobs.now we know its just you being biased towards your own setup lmao.just like when i see a guy talk shit about de gavitas and they never ran one,i wont hesitate to call it out as speculation since i have firsthand knowledge in all types of lighting not just 1 or 2 lamps i can usually spot the bullshitters a mile away,you already know that though haha.
im under the impression if @Stephenj37826 built your lights with dog shit smeared on the lenses and told you its the best,brightest cob,you would tell us all how much better your lights are because stephen made em for YOU .now that last part was kinda douchy but you get my point i think
All I see is your opinion with absolutely no data or facts behind it. You could easily have provided it...but you deflect and make some vague statement with no example of said statement.The lenses substantially outperformed the other two options.
It's fine if you don't agree, but you DID ask my opinion, so kindly stop whining that I didn't say what you wanted to hear- and then talk shit about bias.
Maybe you should think about WHY I spent extra to make sure all my chips have lenses before running your mouth?
The man asked my opinion, he didn't ask for documentation.All I see is your opinion with absolutely no data or facts behind it. You could easily have provided it...but you deflect and make some vague statement with no example of said statement.
So we all know you are just blowing trying to justify what you choose...out of 1 choice I might add.
So since you're such a genius and know everything, it shouldn't be hard for you to answer some basic question.
So how did you perform the comparisons?
What were the differences the plants showed to make a claim of substantially better?
What does substantially better mean?
What was the final weight difference?
What meters and measurement devices were used?
What measurement metrics were chosen?
How many runs did you test for?
What cultivar(s)?
we are testing the new VSM and expect the squarer beams will work nicely in symmetric builds
will have some maps in 2017
Cheers
Mark
Those lenses look dope. Do they only fit veros then? Cost?we are testing the new VSM and expect the squarer beams will work nicely in symmetric builds
will have some maps in 2017
Cheers
Mark
any LES around 18-30mm, but beam will shape different dependent on LES, cost of optic or mounted on sinks with leds? will be avail on 140 and 160mm x 80 pin finsThose lenses look dope. Do they only fit veros then? Cost?
constantly moving so approximationand in regards to your sig, isn't 30% of 1AUD .70USD?
Sory again, are these informations still update or would i consider to buy an angelina reflector instead of kingbrite?Ledil F13838 Reflector and Kingbrite's KB-D82-90RF Reflector
Tested on cxb3590 cd 3500k 1.39amps with 50-2303CR holder and 50-2300AN reflector adapter
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Left: Kingbrite's KB-D82-90RF $0.80
Right: Ledil F13838 Reflector $4-$10
LEDIL reflector is thinner plastic, more flexible so locks easily. KB-D82-90RF is slightly more thick and takes just a little longer to fit.
The outer size is the same for both reflectors. The ledil has rings/steps that are missing on KB-D82-90RF. The width of base(as highlighted in red) is more in KB-D82-90RF, which means reflector walls angle is more, which means more center focused.
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Ledil seems better due to more even light distribution.
But the light distribution differences are small and the price difference is huge. KB-D82-90RF looks like a great cheep option. You can always swap them out with original Ledil reflectors if you do not like KB
They should still be the same.Sory again, are these informations still update or would i consider to buy an angelina reflector instead of kingbrite?