The screws are coming down on Putin

Jimdamick

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WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. officials are expected to announce an imminent response, including sanctions, on Thursday for Russia's interference in the U.S. presidential election by hacking American political sites and email accounts — an effort that ensures action before President-elect Donald Trump takes office.

Sanctions against Russia or its government officials would tighten the economic screws on an already heavily sanctioned country and could also further aggravate tensions between Moscow and Washington.

The move also would put Trump in the position of having to decide whether to roll back the measures once in office and could potentially cause difficulties for his nominees during their confirmation hearings in the Senate, where support for sanctioning Russia is strong.

"We have to sanction Russia for these cyberattacks (and) send a clear message to the incoming administration that there is a lot of bipartisan support in Congress for going after this," Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., told The Associated Press by phone from Latvia while on a trip to discuss security issues, including cybersecurity, with eastern European allies. She said lawmakers on both sides of the aisle were in favor of quick action.

A little too late for Clinton, but what the fuck, tough shit, right?

Maybe this will at least will show who the "true" Americans are, those Trump supporters and Trump himself, who continue to state that Russia wasn't involved, that they won the election fair and square, despite the fact that Trump still "lost" the election by over 2.9 millions votes, based primarily (Benghazi? Clinton Foundation?) on those emails that actually meant shit, at least to the FBI (thanks Comey) that were hacked by Russian intelligence, or the majority of Americans (that don't mean shit, right?) who believe that Russia interfered to elect Trump, who now Russia will use for their own benefit (bet on it).

Come on all you Trump supporters on this site, defend him now, and tell me how the Russians didn't influence this election and help to elect that abomination named Donald Trump.

Have fun, and give me an excuse why this election wasn't a farce.
 

fdd2blk

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So who are all these voters who immediately turned their backs on Hillary, just days before the election, over some bogus email leak?
 

Fogdog

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WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. officials are expected to announce an imminent response, including sanctions, on Thursday for Russia's interference in the U.S. presidential election by hacking American political sites and email accounts — an effort that ensures action before President-elect Donald Trump takes office.

Sanctions against Russia or its government officials would tighten the economic screws on an already heavily sanctioned country and could also further aggravate tensions between Moscow and Washington.

The move also would put Trump in the position of having to decide whether to roll back the measures once in office and could potentially cause difficulties for his nominees during their confirmation hearings in the Senate, where support for sanctioning Russia is strong.

"We have to sanction Russia for these cyberattacks (and) send a clear message to the incoming administration that there is a lot of bipartisan support in Congress for going after this," Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., told The Associated Press by phone from Latvia while on a trip to discuss security issues, including cybersecurity, with eastern European allies. She said lawmakers on both sides of the aisle were in favor of quick action.

A little too late for Clinton, but what the fuck, tough shit, right?

Maybe this will at least will show who the "true" Americans are, those Trump supporters and Trump himself, who continue to state that Russia wasn't involved, that they won the election fair and square, despite the fact that Trump still "lost" the election by over 2.9 millions votes, based primarily (Benghazi? Clinton Foundation?) on those emails that actually meant shit, at least to the FBI (thanks Comey) that were hacked by Russian intelligence, or the majority of Americans (that don't mean shit, right?) who believe that Russia interfered to elect Trump, who now Russia will use for their own benefit (bet on it).

Come on all you Trump supporters on this site, defend him now, and tell me how the Russians didn't influence this election and help to elect that abomination named Donald Trump.

Have fun, and give me an excuse why this election wasn't a farce.
Even with the Russian sponsored Wikileaks hubbub, Trump had the most negative press of either candidate and the stories were mostly verifiable with valid legal documentation or witnesses to the facts. Hillary Clinton had what going against her? A history of massive investigations that pretty much exonerated her or at the very least came up with nothing worthwhile from a legal prosecutor's point of view.

The DNC scandal, while it was exposed from the suspect Wikileaks documents, eventually did prove true. So there is that. We have several "Bernie to the death" people here who are pretty chapped about it. Even then some of these people voted for Clinton.

To claim Russian interference caused Clinton's loss requires us to believe that negative stories affected Clinton but not Trump. I just don't see how to reconcile this. For this reason, I'm not going with the story that Russia caused Clinton's loss in November. In my opinion, Comey's interference, could have affected the outcome but again, why did this have such an affect and all the shit that we knew about Trump did not? For these reasons, I'm not willing to go with the "rigged election" story.

That said, Russia's attempt at influencing the election is a national scandal and I'm glad Obama has ensured that the facts are documented before Comrade Trump gets into office.

And don't put me down as a Trump supporter. I have a smoldering hatred for him and his family.
 
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schuylaar

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Even with the Russian sponsored Wikileaks hubbub, Trump had the most negative press of either candidate and the stories were mostly verifiable with valid legal documentation or witnesses to the facts. Hillary Clinton had what going against her? A history of massive investigations that pretty exonerated her or at the very least came up with nothing worthwhile from a legal prosecutor's point of view.

The DNC scandal, while it was exposed from the suspect Wikileaks documents, eventually did prove true. So there is that. We have several "Bernie to the death" people here who are pretty chapped about it. Even then some of these people voted for Clinton.

To claim Russian interference caused Clinton's loss requires us to believe that negative stories affected Clinton but not Trump. I just don't see how to reconcile this. For this reason, I'm not going with the story that Russia caused Clinton's loss in November. In my opinion, Comey's interference, could have affected the outcome but again, why did this have such an affect and all the shit that we knew about Trump did not? For these reasons, I'm not willing to go with the "rigged election" story.

That said, Russia's attempt at influencing the election is a national scandal and I'm glad Obama has ensured that the facts are documented before Comrade Trump gets into office.

And don't put me down as a Trump supporter. I have a smoldering hatred for him and his family.
why are you still on Clinton's loss?

No one's talking about it anymore except for @UncleBuck.
 

schuylaar

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why?

Because it was the topic of the OP.
Because Russian interference in the election is currently in the news.
You make my toes feel warm and toasty by replying to my post.
Russian interference? yes..Clinton's loss? no

It's more about what was exposed at the DNC.

Clinton lost long ago in 2008, she was re-gifted in 2016 and nobody wanted her.
 
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