Fogdog
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feelings > factsRussian interference? yes..Clinton's loss? no
It's more about what was exposed at the DNC.
Clinton lost long ago in 2008, she was re-gifted in 2016 and nobody wanted her.
feelings > factsRussian interference? yes..Clinton's loss? no
It's more about what was exposed at the DNC.
Clinton lost long ago in 2008, she was re-gifted in 2016 and nobody wanted her.
Apparently you have to be likable to get elected potus. Look at the last few election cycles. George W Bush was a moron. Possibly the dumbest man to ever hold office, but a lot of folks liked him. They "could have a beer with him". John Kerry, not likable, and he lost. Obama was very likable, and won. Hillary was one of the most qualified candidates ever to run for potus, but people hated her.Even with the Russian sponsored Wikileaks hubbub, Trump had the most negative press of either candidate and the stories were mostly verifiable with valid legal documentation or witnesses to the facts. Hillary Clinton had what going against her? A history of massive investigations that pretty exonerated her or at the very least came up with nothing worthwhile from a legal prosecutor's point of view.
The DNC scandal, while it was exposed from the suspect Wikileaks documents, eventually did prove true. So there is that. We have several "Bernie to the death" people here who are pretty chapped about it. Even then some of these people voted for Clinton.
To claim Russian interference caused Clinton's loss requires us to believe that negative stories affected Clinton but not Trump. I just don't see how to reconcile this. For this reason, I'm not going with the story that Russia caused Clinton's loss in November. In my opinion, Comey's interference, could have affected the outcome but again, why did this have such an affect and all the shit that we knew about Trump did not? For these reasons, I'm not willing to go with the "rigged election" story.
That said, Russia's attempt at influencing the election is a national scandal and I'm glad Obama has ensured that the facts are documented before Comrade Trump gets into office.
And don't put me down as a Trump supporter. I have a smoldering hatred for him and his family.
The exception is Trump. Wasn't liked by many. Even his supporters didn't like him. Throughout most of the election cycle, his unfavorble ratings hovered around 60% then the last couple of weeks his ratings improved as people started to choose who to vote for.Apparently you have to be likable to get elected potus. Look at the last few election cycles. George W Bush was a moron. Possibly the dumbest man to ever hold office, but a lot of folks liked him. They "could have a beer with him". John Kerry, not likable, and he lost. Obama was very likable, and won. Hillary was one of the most qualified candidates ever to run for potus, but people hated her.
Hillary was so unlikable that she lost to a racist, sexist, greedy reality tv star. The fact that she lost to Trump, of all people, puts an exclamation point on it.The exception is Trump. Wasn't liked by many. Even his supporters didn't like him. Throughout most of the election cycle, his unfavorble ratings hovered around 60% then the last couple of weeks his ratings improved as people started to choose who to vote for.
Plenty. How about Weiner?Can you think of a more unqualified douche bag to run for potus?
He's a douche bag, but at least he has *some* experience in politics.Plenty. How about Weiner?
He's an x-ray..a negative of who should be POTUS.Hillary was so unlikable that she lost to a racist, sexist, greedy reality tv star. The fact that she lost to Trump, of all people, puts an exclamation point on it.
Can you think of a more unqualified douche bag to run for potus?
you're dumber than shit.
Anybody who would try knows he would kill their entire town.He's an x-ray..a negative of who should be POTUS.
That must kill her inside.
I also think Putin is a beady-eyed mother fucker who deserves a few rounds in that melon he calls a head.
I can't believe someone hasn't offed him yet.
If it's not fake, it's not believable. Your mind should be studied by science.
Your Trump sig is really creepy..looks like my dad when he was younger.you're dumber than shit.
They basically are saying anything within this report could be wrong and we dont guarantee its authenticity. LolIf it's not fake, it's not believable. Your mind should be studied by science.
as opposed to your bull shit fake news consisting of lies and political opinion?They basically are saying anything within this report could be wrong and we dont guarantee its authenticity. Lol
What is your opinion of a man that goes to art galleries depicting XXX shots of children getting penetrated?as opposed to your bull shit fake news consisting of lies and political opinion?
donald twump sexualized tiffany when she was an infant, commented on the "sexiness" of 10 year old girls, commented on the bangability of 13 year old paris hilton, and hangs out with convicted pedophile jeffrey eppstein, at one point having to face a trial for raping a 13 year old girl repeatedly at his house. he is also known for trafficking underage models and throwing cocaine and sex parties with pedophiles in attendance. he walks in on 14 ad 15 year old girls in their changing rooms on purpose.What is your opinion of a man that goes to art galleries depicting XXX shots of children getting penetrated?
My opinion is it is evil. Do you think pedophilia is ok?
infowars again? My opinion of anything from fake news websites is that anything from them is worthlessWhat is your opinion of a man that goes to art galleries depicting XXX shots of children getting penetrated?
My opinion is it is evil. Do you think pedophilia is ok?
You and Donald are too stupid to experience art.What is your opinion of a man that goes to art galleries depicting XXX shots of children getting penetrated?
My opinion is it is evil. Do you think pedophilia is ok?
not what they saidThey basically are saying anything within this report could be wrong and we dont guarantee its authenticity. Lol
I think they are referring to the FBI reopening the email investigation, also known as Weiner gate.