Dot burn!

[choomer]

Doing a little LONG overdue pruning I came across this little gem and thought it might be an interesting game for the LED cognoscenti.
Below you'll see an interesting bleach/burn pattern of my LED situation.

Which LED in what configuration caused that burn?
Take a guess or submit your own flight of Icarus.

 

[UncleBuck]

what healthy looking plants.

 

[choomer]

That's the cut off top 2' of one plant. but thanks.

 

[UncleBuck]

That's the cut off top 2' of one plant. but thanks.

you're really good at growing. leaving all the dead plant material in your soil is great for producing fungus and disease. advanced level stuff there.

 

[cdgmoney250]

you're really good at growing. leaving all the dead plant material in your soil is great for producing fungus and disease. advanced level stuff there.

Ever heard of Recycled Organic Living Soil?
Or No-Till gardening?

I'm guessing probably not based on your sarcastic condescending remarks.

Well part of that system (and traditional gardening practices) uses mulch to keep the top soil moist and alive with activity. Anything can be used as mulch, but many people use organic matter such as a living cover crop and/or clippings from the plant. Organic mulch (dead plant material) decomposes and breaks down into a food source for fungus/bacteria/archea/arthropods (mykorhizza is a beneficial symbiotic root fungus if you didn't already know) which in turn also feeds the plant and helps keep the plant healthy.

Some food for thought.

 

[choomer]

you're really good at growing. leaving all the dead plant material in your soil is great for producing fungus and disease. advanced level stuff there.

That's actually steeping in a bucket of water (emptied the wet vac into a 5G bucket) that I aerate every so often for free fert. for the soil plants.
Good to know that you have an opinion on it. Could you post a .jpg of your garden (since .png you post never render, but only yours?) to "show me how it's done"?

Better yet (since this is the LED section) could you also post your lighting solution?

That would be great. Thanks.

Ever heard of Recycled Organic Living Soil?
Or No-Till gardening?
I'm guessing probably not based on your sarcastic condescending remarks.
Well part of that system (and traditional gardening practices) uses mulch to keep the top soil moist and alive with activity. Anything can be used as mulch, but many people use organic matter such as a living cover crop and/or clippings from the plant. Organic mulch (dead plant material) decomposes and breaks down into a food source for fungus/bacteria/archea/arthropods (mykorhizza is a beneficial symbiotic root fungus if you didn't already know) which in turn also feeds the plant and helps keep the plant healthy.
Some food for thought.

Thanks man.
Some people think technology can replace nature that has been doing this since before we had opposable thumbs.
I'm just cheap and figure why should I throw away money I've already spent to get rid of "trash" that with a little time becomes fert just as good as what I bought if not better.
I do both hydro and soil so it's win/win as my waste never gets wasted, but gets me wasted.

 

[UncleBuck]

Ever heard of Recycled Organic Living Soil?
Or No-Till gardening?

I'm guessing probably not based on your sarcastic condescending remarks.

Well part of that system (and traditional gardening practices) uses mulch to keep the top soil moist and alive with activity. Anything can be used as mulch, but many people use organic matter such as a living cover crop and/or clippings from the plant. Organic mulch (dead plant material) decomposes and breaks down into a food source for fungus/bacteria/archea/arthropods (mykorhizza is a beneficial symbiotic root fungus if you didn't already know) which in turn also feeds the plant and helps keep the plant healthy.

Some food for thought.

i use water to keep the soil moist.

but hey, dead plant matter which contributes to pathogens and diseases are cool too.

 

[UncleBuck]

That's actually steeping in a bucket of water (emptied the wet vac into a 5G bucket) that I aerate every so often for free fert. for the soil plants.

i just dump that shit into my vegetable garden outside and buy fertilizers because i'm not a brokedick.

but scrounging to save a few pennies rather than investing in the very best for your indoor garden might work too.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

That shit looks like you tried to use a magnifying glass on it.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

A little much N, probably causing that P/K fade with lockout. Doesn't really look overwatered. I could be mistaken.

 

[JavaCo]

you're really good at growing. leaving all the dead plant material in your soil is great for producing fungus and disease. advanced level stuff there.

Lmfao This is some funny shit, Buck tries to cut the op down and shows how ignorant he really is. That dead organic plant matter will be like gold when we run outa oil and coal. How you gonna get your chemical ferts when there is nothing left to power those 18 wheelers and cargo ships hualing all this wonderful modern day crap around.

But seriously soil that can grow fungus is a good soil. People actually pay good money for beneficial fungus to add to their soil , they get almost 15 bucks a pound for this stuff http://wallacewow.com/products/wallace-organic-wonder-mycorrhizal-inoculant?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=1090029524&gclid=CJLhsIfapNECFWsq0wodedsGhg

 

[UncleBuck]

Lmfao This is some funny shit, Buck tries to cut the op down and shows how ignorant he really is. That dead organic plant matter will be like gold when we run outa oil and coal. How you gonna get your chemical ferts when there is nothing left to power those 18 wheelers and cargo ships hualing all this wonderful modern day crap around.

But seriously soil that can grow fungus is a good soil. People actually pay good money for beneficial fungus to add to their soil , they get almost 15 bucks a pound for this stuff http://wallacewow.com/products/wallace-organic-wonder-mycorrhizal-inoculant?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=1090029524&gclid=CJLhsIfapNECFWsq0wodedsGhg

and for just $49.99 plus shipping and handling, you too can grow the world's largest pumpkin too!

 

[Olive Drab Green]

and for just $49.99 plus shipping and handling, you too can grow the world's largest pumpkin too!

If I were him, I would properly compost his trash, at the least.

 

[choomer]

That shit looks like you tried to use a magnifying glass on it.

A little much N, probably causing that P/K fade with lockout. Doesn't really look overwatered. I could be mistaken.

It's NFT for this one, although I do appreciate that you are trying to help!

I neglected it and it grew into the LED, ergo the regular bleached spots where the leaf rested directly on the LED.
There have been a couple times I haven't used a RO water blend and I do have a little lockout when that happens, but this came from the Mom system for clones so I'm not that anal about some light leaf edges.

It grew to 3' and I cut off the 1st 2' for clones (I FINALLY have enough of each strain that I can devote a system per strain!) which is why I'm doing flowering chambers instead of just a room as I can tailor the area to the grow instead of trying to keep 3 different varieties happy when they all want different things.

Actually I've found P to be my nute issue most of the time (lockout) and I have to make sure this one gets a special RO mix to make the nutes more accessible but don't worry too much about it w/ the Moms.

Now does anyone have a guess as to what LED lighting created that spotted albino pattern?

 

[Yodaweed]

Looks fungal to me, i'd cut those leafs off and see if it spreads.

 

[choomer]

Looks fungal to me, i'd cut those leafs off and see if it spreads.

That's an awesome fungus then as it attacks symmetrically in the shape of a LED.

 

[UncleBuck]

It's NFT for this one, although I do appreciate that you are trying to help!

I neglected it and it grew into the LED, ergo the regular bleached spots where the leaf rested directly on the LED.
There have been a couple times I haven't used a RO water blend and I do have a little lockout when that happens, but this came from the Mom system for clones so I'm not that anal about some light leaf edges.

It grew to 3' and I cut off the 1st 2' for clones (I FINALLY have enough of each strain that I can devote a system per strain!) which is why I'm doing flowering chambers instead of just a room as I can tailor the area to the grow instead of trying to keep 3 different varieties happy when they all want different things.

Actually I've found P to be my nute issue most of the time (lockout) and I have to make sure this one gets a special RO mix to make the nutes more accessible but don't worry too much about it w/ the Moms.

Now does anyone have a guess as to what LED lighting created that spotted albino pattern?

that's a whole lot of excusing and explaining for why you clearly can't hack it at indoor.

 

[choomer]

that's a whole lot of excusing and explaining for why you clearly can't hack it at indoor.

I'll leave it to you to explain to customers whose friends I have to blow off because I don't have enough that I can't hack indoor.

Take it back to politics Buckold. Slander and outrageous lies are your bread and butter there.

 

[UncleBuck]

I'll leave it to you to explain to customers whose friends I have to blow off because I don't have enough that I can't hack indoor.

Take it back to politics Buckold. Slander and outrageous lies are your bread and butter there.

name one lie i have ever told then, neo-nazi.



say, who put a 'like' on that post of the jew with the hitler star of david badge, choomer?

 

[choomer]

<sigh>
Sorry folks, some people can't keep their animosity in check.

I try to keep the grow and opinion separate when posting (isn't that why there are multiple sections to the site?)

I'll stop posting here and without that, he will go away.

The answer is 4' fluoro LED replacement tube leftovers from a retrofit.
Not a top of the line solution, but I never scoff at more light at less than 1/2 the wattage of fluorescent.