Should centralized food production be run by governments ?

[Rob Roy]

If people believe that things are run better by a central authority, would it be better to have food production and distribution something which is government controlled ?

Why? Why not ? Discuss, etc.

 

[schuylaar]

If people believe that things are run better by a central authority, would it be better to have food production and distribution something which is government controlled ?

Why? Why not ? Discuss, etc.

Only if by mutual consent of both parties.

 

[Growdict]

The current system works pretty well. But there does need to be continued government oversight to prohibit shitheads from putting glue into baby formula to make a few extra pennies per jar.

 

[st0wandgrow]

If people believe that things are run better by a central authority, would it be better to have food production and distribution something which is government controlled ?

Why? Why not ? Discuss, etc.

Good question rob. My answer is no. Only because I feel folks should be able to grow their own. It seems that food production has become centralized anyway in to the hands of a couple corporations, so I don't think that's any better.

 

[Rob Roy]

Only if by mutual consent of both parties.

 

[HAF2]

If people believe that things are run better by a central authority, would it be better to have food production and distribution something which is government controlled ?

Why? Why not ? Discuss, etc.

http://ageconsearch.umn.edu/bitstream/14678/1/17010021.pdf
According to this food companies are helping mold the government already, not the other way around.

 

[Rob Roy]

The current system works pretty well. But there does need to be continued government oversight to prohibit shitheads from putting glue into baby formula to make a few extra pennies per jar.

How does government oversight ensure food is safe and what do you have against glue?

 

[Unclebaldrick]

If people believe that things are run better by a central authority, would it be better to have food production and distribution something which is government controlled ?

Why? Why not ? Discuss, etc.

Only God can grow a potato.

 

[Growdict]

How does government oversight ensure food is safe and what do you have against glue?

I think having inspectors and testing regularly at your processing plant makes it far less likely for widespread abuse that you see in china. Also the culture where ppl will report to fda or whatever if they see something like that.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Maybe Hillary needed a different slogan. Like...

 

[Rob Roy]

I think having inspectors and testing regularly at your processing plant makes it far less likely for widespread abuse that you see in china. Also the culture where ppl will report to fda or whatever if they see something like that.

If a local farmer sells product to a willing customer, is there any need to have a third party insist on inspecting the food if the first two parties are okay with it?

 

[Unclebaldrick]

If a local farmer sells product to a willing customer, is there any need to have a third party insist on inspecting the food if the first two parties are okay with it?

Are either party ISIS?

 

[Grandpapy]

Sorry, the page you were looking for does not exist or is not available. We performed a web search for “China In US Pork Industry”

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Sorry, the page you were looking for does not exist or is not available. We performed a web search for “China In US Pork Industry”

Have you tasted Smithfield lately? It is not fit for sale at Arby's.

 

[Tim Fox]

and then there is THIS
An agricultural subsidy is a governmental subsidy paid to farmers and agribusinesses to supplement their income, manage the supply of agricultural commodities, and influence the cost and supply of such commodities.

seems it already is

 

[reddan1981]

If a local farmer sells product to a willing customer, is there any need to have a third party insist on inspecting the food if the first two parties are okay with it?

Im going to have to play Devils advocate with this rob, because whilst I can agree with your sentiment, I feel you overlook the actual semantics of your vision.
What if the local farmers garner a monopoly on producing food. How would you advocate dealing with them, when third parties are not part of your solution?

 

[st0wandgrow]

I think having inspectors and testing regularly at your processing plant makes it far less likely for widespread abuse that you see in china. Also the culture where ppl will report to fda or whatever if they see something like that.

If a local farmer sells product to a willing customer, is there any need to have a third party insist on inspecting the food if the first two parties are okay with it?

Rob, in your above example I would agree with you. Unfortunately the vast majority of consumers buy their food at supermarkets, and the vast majority of that food is produced by a couple companies. Any time there is a money motive, I do not trust corporate America to do the right thing. They are driven by greed.

If there were a bunch of different companies competing for our food dollars then I would be ok with "letting the free market decide" as people could boycott companies that cut corners with their food products and spend their money elsewhere, but that's not the case, so some type of oversight is needed.

 

[PetFlora]

It seems those who answered so far, are clueless regarding the pathetic state of agricultural soil, which has long been labeled DEAD. Instead of crop rotations, and reintroducing the consumed minerals big agri went to bed with monsatano/bayer/dupont to create pesticides, insecticides, fungicides... the moved on to GMO to supposedly prevent crop diseases. It is well known that these all get into the fruits, vegetables, herbs... and that WE are eating them for 4+ decades.

The heads of these corporations rotate in and out of government positions (search who has held secretary of agriculture position for just the last 20 years). all the resultant frankenfood has contributed to the health issues running rampant in our country for decades

Monsatano has actually sued farmers (and won) whose non GMO crops were infected with monsantano pollen

Were we to grow cannabis in the same soil we would encounter all manner of plant diseases, with reduced yield and quality

 

[Growdict]

If a local farmer sells product to a willing customer, is there any need to have a third party insist on inspecting the food if the first two parties are okay with it?

as you know most of our food is not sold like this. there needs to be a regulatory body to perform a swift recall on bagged lettuce that is contaminated with listeria. there needs to be a regulatory body that ensures your fresh local trout is not in fact frozen tilapia grown in a pesticide filled ditch. There needs to be a regulatory body that looks at the long term effects of gmo corn, wheat and soy.. I also agree with petflora and think the government, elected officials, food corps and food associations are way too cozy with each other.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

as you know most of our food is not sold like this. there needs to be a regulatory body to perform a swift recall on bagged lettuce that is contaminated with listeria. there needs to be a regulatory body that ensures your fresh local trout is not in fact frozen tilapia grown in a pesticide filled ditch. There needs to be a regulatory body that looks at the long term effects of gmo corn, wheat and soy.. I also agree with petflora and think the government, elected officials, food corps and food associations are way too cozy with each other.

You act like food safety is a right. Typical government over-reach. Fucking lib-tards.

 

[Grandpapy]

Last year North Carolina passed a bill (seen by some as an “ag-gag law”) that will make it illegal for employees to document what happens on farms. How do you think this law relates to the work that your clients (China) are doing?
http://civileats.com/2016/03/23/is-north-carolina-the-next-flint-groups-say-the-hog-industry-disproportionate-impacts-on-people-of-color-in-the-state/