ZenMaster
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He should have a say.
Just because he was for abortion doesn't make him any less of the father of the child.
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Just because he was for abortion doesn't make him any less of the father of the child.
TheBrutalTruth
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Hmmm... strange, I've always thought that it was the fact that my parents terrified any sex drive out of me with telling me that if I did anything stupid I'd have to bear the consequences, including knocking up a woman.
Not much room to wiggle about there. I really don't want to have to explain to my mom that I was a worthless jack ass and left some woman pregnant. I rather do value my life more than that, not to mention the fact that I'm not done enjoying it.
Besides, I'm way too immature to want the responsibility of raising a child, and I do have personal moors against abortion. So... I guess I should be thankful that we haven't carried the entire abortion legislation to the theoretical limits where I would be prohibited from relieving myself.
Mass murderer... depends on your definition of "life"
Though it does make you wonder, did George Washington refuse to be crowned king because he knew that if he had allowed it we'd be stuck with a bunch of protestant nobility trying to shove their dogma down our throats, and a de facto state religion?
Not much room to wiggle about there. I really don't want to have to explain to my mom that I was a worthless jack ass and left some woman pregnant. I rather do value my life more than that, not to mention the fact that I'm not done enjoying it.
Besides, I'm way too immature to want the responsibility of raising a child, and I do have personal moors against abortion. So... I guess I should be thankful that we haven't carried the entire abortion legislation to the theoretical limits where I would be prohibited from relieving myself.
Mass murderer... depends on your definition of "life"
Though it does make you wonder, did George Washington refuse to be crowned king because he knew that if he had allowed it we'd be stuck with a bunch of protestant nobility trying to shove their dogma down our throats, and a de facto state religion?
theloadeddragon
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My daughter was alive in me for years before she was conceived, waiting for the right time, and then, when I was trying for her, there she came... life and love... life and love...
Edit: I forgot to say something about abortion... sorry, as I am a guy, its not my decision, the bonding process that happens between a lady and her baby is something completely outside of my comprehension, and I have heard ladies say, this baby just doesn't feel right, and then after a while have to get an abortion.... completely out of my control, not my decision, not my body, I don't grip the situation because Im a guy..... ??? Baked,
Edit: I forgot to say something about abortion... sorry, as I am a guy, its not my decision, the bonding process that happens between a lady and her baby is something completely outside of my comprehension, and I have heard ladies say, this baby just doesn't feel right, and then after a while have to get an abortion.... completely out of my control, not my decision, not my body, I don't grip the situation because Im a guy..... ??? Baked,
Inneedofbuds
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My daughter was alive in me for years before she was conceived, waiting for the right time, and then, when I was trying for her, there she came... life and love... life and love...
Edit: I forgot to say something about abortion... sorry, as I am a guy, its not my decision, the bonding process that happens between a lady and her baby is something completely outside of my comprehension, and I have heard ladies say, this baby just doesn't feel right, and then after a while have to get an abortion.... completely out of my control, not my decision, not my body, I don't grip the situation because Im a guy..... ??? Baked,
nah, i havent read the other stuff in here, way too much, but I agree exactly with this. As long as the child is still in the womb, there is one person and one person only who has a say on what happens to that child. If she wants to take it out of the world, her choice, she brought it in. Let God punish her if he chooses.
misshestermoffitt
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A MALE doctor will tell you that. A FEMALE doctor will laugh in your face at that idea.
I gave birth twice, no epidural either time. They gave me a local for when they took a scalpel and cut me from my cootchie to my butt hole.
I say this, until a doctor as shoved a needle into your crotch, you just haven't liived. Lets not forget that they are cutting your crotch open. When they were sewing me back up I could feel every stitch. I kept telling them I could feel it and the doctor who was a man said "you can't feel that" alrighty then !
Comparing a fucking kidney stone to shitting out something the size of a watermelon is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Unless your kidney stone weighed a minimum of 7 pounds, you don't know shit about fuck.
I gave birth twice, no epidural either time. They gave me a local for when they took a scalpel and cut me from my cootchie to my butt hole.
I say this, until a doctor as shoved a needle into your crotch, you just haven't liived. Lets not forget that they are cutting your crotch open. When they were sewing me back up I could feel every stitch. I kept telling them I could feel it and the doctor who was a man said "you can't feel that" alrighty then !
Comparing a fucking kidney stone to shitting out something the size of a watermelon is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Unless your kidney stone weighed a minimum of 7 pounds, you don't know shit about fuck.
Sunnysideup
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There are a lot of fathers out here that are very capable of raising their own children, and should have a right to do so.
When 2 people make a child together, and note the 'TOGETHER' part, then the 2 people should BOTH have a say in what is going to happen.
The mother needs to take accountability for her actions, as well as the father.
The way to clear this up once and for all would be simple.
Here are the scenarios:
~Make it legal. Make it so that if a woman gets pregnant and does not want to keep the child and the father is agreeable, they sign the waiver form and have an abortion.
~The woman does not want the child but the father does. They should sign a legally binding contract. The mother is to hold the baby until term and then the father is to raise the child without any support from the mother. The mother signs all rights off to the child.
~The woman wants the child and the father doesn't..Sign a legally binding contract that the mother will keep the child and raise the child without any support from the father. The father will sign all rights to the child off.
The bottom line is that it take 2 to make a baby, and it should take 2 to make a life altering decision about the baby.
When 2 people make a child together, and note the 'TOGETHER' part, then the 2 people should BOTH have a say in what is going to happen.
The mother needs to take accountability for her actions, as well as the father.
The way to clear this up once and for all would be simple.
Here are the scenarios:
~Make it legal. Make it so that if a woman gets pregnant and does not want to keep the child and the father is agreeable, they sign the waiver form and have an abortion.
~The woman does not want the child but the father does. They should sign a legally binding contract. The mother is to hold the baby until term and then the father is to raise the child without any support from the mother. The mother signs all rights off to the child.
~The woman wants the child and the father doesn't..Sign a legally binding contract that the mother will keep the child and raise the child without any support from the father. The father will sign all rights to the child off.
The bottom line is that it take 2 to make a baby, and it should take 2 to make a life altering decision about the baby.
Big P
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funny ask a female who has had both kids and kidney stones,
I have one sitting here right next to me. you want her to tell you that both hurt a shit load. she says the kidney stone hurt more
so take that and shove it up your ass
anyway, if a gurl was preg and she decided to get the abortion after my baby was developed and kicking I would file suit against her.
i wonder if I could win a settlement for undo grievance since she waited till my baby was kicking in her stomach
having kids really changes you.
you guys should see how cute my kids are. seriously they sooo cute
my little boy is 2 and when ever he asks for something he says
"peeezz daddy peeeeeez"
and I say ok little buddy and give it to him and he says
"tank you daddy tank you"
then when he gives me somthing and I say thank you to him he says
"wecome daddy" "wecome daddy"
if anything happend to my baby i think I would have to blow my brains out.
I have one sitting here right next to me. you want her to tell you that both hurt a shit load. she says the kidney stone hurt more
so take that and shove it up your ass
anyway, if a gurl was preg and she decided to get the abortion after my baby was developed and kicking I would file suit against her.
i wonder if I could win a settlement for undo grievance since she waited till my baby was kicking in her stomach
having kids really changes you.
you guys should see how cute my kids are. seriously they sooo cute
my little boy is 2 and when ever he asks for something he says
"peeezz daddy peeeeeez"
and I say ok little buddy and give it to him and he says
"tank you daddy tank you"
then when he gives me somthing and I say thank you to him he says
"wecome daddy" "wecome daddy"
if anything happend to my baby i think I would have to blow my brains out.
misshestermoffitt
New Member
My kids are in their 20's. I've seen a lot of girls go from "please daddy please" to pregnant at anywhere from 14 to 17. I guess until you actually know someone that should have had an abortion you really can't discuss it.
I knew a girl that had a child. Her doctor said to her "you have Lupis, you can not get pregnant again, if you do you will die".
She accidently got pregnant again. Her husband really wanted that baby too. He convinced her not to abort. Her and the baby died in the hospital together after being in a coma for several months. She should have aborted. Abortion was recommended, but she thought she could beat the odds since her husband really wanted her to have that kid. Her 2 year old son never got to really know his mother. She wasn't even quite 21 years old when she died. She was my friend, I miss her.
The son ended up being raised by the woman his dad married who never wanted kids. I think the boy spent more time living at his grandparents than his fathers. He is now an alcoholic at the age of 21. I wonder if he remembers his mother at all?
This is exactly the reason men need to stay out of it. He knew if his wife got pregnant again she would die. Did he keep his sperms to himself? Hell no, he got her pregnant and then convinced her to go against the doctor suggested life saving abortion.
I knew a girl that had a child. Her doctor said to her "you have Lupis, you can not get pregnant again, if you do you will die".
She accidently got pregnant again. Her husband really wanted that baby too. He convinced her not to abort. Her and the baby died in the hospital together after being in a coma for several months. She should have aborted. Abortion was recommended, but she thought she could beat the odds since her husband really wanted her to have that kid. Her 2 year old son never got to really know his mother. She wasn't even quite 21 years old when she died. She was my friend, I miss her.
The son ended up being raised by the woman his dad married who never wanted kids. I think the boy spent more time living at his grandparents than his fathers. He is now an alcoholic at the age of 21. I wonder if he remembers his mother at all?
This is exactly the reason men need to stay out of it. He knew if his wife got pregnant again she would die. Did he keep his sperms to himself? Hell no, he got her pregnant and then convinced her to go against the doctor suggested life saving abortion.
Big P
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im sorry moffit but stop being a tard,
you obviously have not read my views on abortion as I already said abortion should be allowed but only in the early stages after that its you snooze you lose
who are you arguing with?????????????
TodayIsAGreenday
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just to let you know theres other things other than abortions, like my 14 year old cousin was 3 months pregnant and then she starved herself untill she miscarried
big family drama
big family drama
misshestermoffitt
New Member
I'm trying to point out that abortion can be a good thing.
I hope in the future big P that your son knocks up a girl at age 14. It is possible.
That story about that girl was true. Thanks for thinking that her dying because her husband was a fucktard is retarded. I hope your wife gets lupis, then you'll see then fun of it all.
I hope in the future big P that your son knocks up a girl at age 14. It is possible.
That story about that girl was true. Thanks for thinking that her dying because her husband was a fucktard is retarded. I hope your wife gets lupis, then you'll see then fun of it all.
Big P
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wow you are one hateful bitch
why are you so jaded and mean? I notice a lot of women get this way when they get old and lose thier looks
old hag comes to mind,
go get yourself another glass of wine an demasculate your husband some more
Big P
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you just sit around trying to figure out all the possible ways you would get to have a chance to kill a your grand child
blinkykush
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PRO-LIFE.........abortion is a poor choice of birth control, who are we to negate a lifes exixtence, we had the choice that put us in the position in the first place, and if we didnt have the choice(rap) then hopefully we have faith to bring life and beauty out of a dark place. my opinion strictly and i agree to disagree with pro-choice peeps.
misshestermoffitt
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Wow, I'm soooo upset because somebody that has barely gotten past puberty thinks I'm a bitch. Oooh hurt me some more please.
Here is the thing, when men run out of intelligent arguement with a women then she is suddenly, on her period, a bitch, a fat ass, an old hag.
Did I call you dickless? A Fag? Maybe a pedophile? You upest because now that you think of it, your kid won't be 2 years old forever? Maybe you might have to figure out how to do some parenting after all?
Maybe you doubt the paternity of your son so now you've got to try to cut me down?
I don't drink, just because you must be an alkie don't drag me into it.
My husband is plenty masculine, he has a huge dick too, jealous?
My looks have held up fine, you must be thinking of the sasquatch you married.
Here is the thing, when men run out of intelligent arguement with a women then she is suddenly, on her period, a bitch, a fat ass, an old hag.
Did I call you dickless? A Fag? Maybe a pedophile? You upest because now that you think of it, your kid won't be 2 years old forever? Maybe you might have to figure out how to do some parenting after all?
Maybe you doubt the paternity of your son so now you've got to try to cut me down?
I don't drink, just because you must be an alkie don't drag me into it.
My husband is plenty masculine, he has a huge dick too, jealous?
My looks have held up fine, you must be thinking of the sasquatch you married.
misshestermoffitt
New Member
My kids use condoms, we discuss birth control. There has never even been so much as a pregnancy scare in my household. I guess I kick your ass at parenting too.
Sunnysideup
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um...I am Pro Choice
I don't think I have ever seen MissHester get pissed. Glad she isn't upset with me...
She means business!!
Misshester sorry about your friend. Very sad.
Oh and shame on you P for calling her names, not good nor nice.
I don't think I have ever seen MissHester get pissed. Glad she isn't upset with me...
She means business!!
Misshester sorry about your friend. Very sad.
Oh and shame on you P for calling her names, not good nor nice.
misshestermoffitt
New Member
I know it's sad, had she just aborted the child she never would have died. I can see her headstone from my mothers headstone. I'm starting to have quite a collection of places to visit in the cemetary these days. 
Dontcha hate when men have no thought process left so they must resort to name calling and personal attacks?
Dontcha hate when men have no thought process left so they must resort to name calling and personal attacks?
Sunnysideup
Well-Known Member
Must admit, I saw him headed that way. He lost his viewpoint and could not recover, so out came the names....I for one, hate that shit.
I know it's sad, had she just aborted the child she never would have died. I can see her headstone from my mothers headstone. I'm starting to have quite a collection of places to visit in the cemetary these days.
Dontcha hate when men have no thought process left so they must resort to name calling and personal attacks?
Big P
Well-Known Member
Wow, I'm soooo upset because somebody that has barely gotten past puberty thinks I'm a bitch. Oooh hurt me some more please.
Here is the thing, when men run out of intelligent arguement with a women then she is suddenly, on her period, a bitch, a fat ass, an old hag.
Did I call you dickless? A Fag? Maybe a pedophile? You upest because now that you think of it, your kid won't be 2 years old forever? Maybe you might have to figure out how to do some parenting after all?
Maybe you doubt the paternity of your son so now you've got to try to cut me down?
I don't drink, just because you must be an alkie don't drag me into it.
My husband is plenty masculine, he has a huge dick too, jealous?
My looks have held up fine, you must be thinking of the sasquatch you married.
honey the only reason you got what was comming to you is because you began the insults because you couldnt argue like a "grown up" so who is the real child here?
dont dish it if you cant take it simply put. you not the only one with the wise cracks
im sorry i hit you where it hurts but you earned it
just because your kids were 2 a little after you hit puberty doesnt mean that i was that irrisponsible
im 30 with a 2 year old whom unlike you would I would be there as a parent well enough to avoid him impregnating a young lady when she is 14
were I come from we dont raise our kids like that, seems to me where you come from you expect it as a forgone conclusion
maybe you should shore up your parenting skills a little and then maybe you wouldnt have such a low expectation of your kids since I know as all kids they are capable of great things as long as they have the proper guidence and environment