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MMJ Dreaming 99

MMJ Dreaming 99

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Coloradoclear said:
That is a factual statement but, I would always error on the side of caution (as a licensed electrician). Wouldn't you hate to come back after being gone a day or two and find that your lights, pumps, etc. Have been off and you've lost everything from a breaker trip?
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I watched a two part video on youtube a few months ago pre QB boards. It was a side by side test with HPS versus COBs or something like that. OP or author of video had a clean set up. Sounded intelligent and was not smoking a bong during the video.

Video 1 was good. Video two starts and he lost a pump or something tripped and all his plants died in like a day. I was pissed I wasted my time watching video 1 but also felt sorry for him. S*it can go south really fast if you are running pumps or even if you lose lights. Hydro or variations or drippers can fail quickly and the plants can die fast.
 
MMJ Dreaming 99

MMJ Dreaming 99

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whitebb2727 said:
I haven't posted pics. I should. Frankly I was embarrassed. Yes the cold floor was causing lock outs and ph looking problems.

I don't really want to further get away from the point of the thread but will answer.

I got away with getting off topic with tty because of mutual respect for each other.

It is what is.

Thank you for the compliments for my grow. I try but I make mistakes. We all do. We are human.
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No bro you are a class act admitting your mistake and helping other people here by mentioning it. In Colorado, every jack wagon is a "master grower" so these dudes never have any problems growing. They never make a mistake All their weed is the best around too. It's all dank and frosty with massive buds LOL!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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MMJ Dreaming 99 said:
I watched a two part video on youtube a few months ago pre QB boards. It was a side by side test with HPS versus COBs or something like that. OP or author of video had a clean set up. Sounded intelligent and was not smoking a bong during the video.

Video 1 was good. Video two starts and he lost a pump or something tripped and all his plants died in like a day. I was pissed I wasted my time watching video 1 but also felt sorry for him. S*it can go south really fast if you are running pumps or even if you lose lights. Hydro or variations or drippers can fail quickly and the plants can die fast.
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THIS.

It's why my most recent feeding upgrade is very robust vs equipment and power failures; SIPS needs neither.
 
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shadow_moose

shadow_moose

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ttystikk said:
No that's not what killed those breakers; a machine shop has electric motors that momentarily pull very high current loads as they come up to speed, every time you switch one on. THAT'S what can overload circuits and cause premature breaker failure.
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You never bring a motor up to speed under torque. A motor coming up to speed under torque would cause what you're describing, as current is a function of load for almost all electric motors. A motor should not draw more than it's max current, so it should not be an issue if you have the. Current fluctuation does not kill breakers, it's constant current load that does.

Feel free to continue saying I'm wrong, but if what you say about your breaker setup is true, you're not running a 100% reliable operation.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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shadow_moose said:
You never bring a motor up to speed under torque. A motor coming up to speed under torque would cause what you're describing, as current is a function of load for almost all electric motors. A motor should not draw more than it's max current, so it should not be an issue if you have the. Current fluctuation does not kill breakers, it's constant current load that does.

Feel free to continue saying I'm wrong, but if what you say about your breaker setup is true, you're not running a 100% reliable operation.
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So how is an electric motor not under load as it's coming up to speed? The load is is own rotational inertia. Bigger motors and compressor units go to the trouble of using capacitors to overcome this problem, otherwise your 5 Ton AC unit would trip the breaker every time.

Having a hugely oversized breaker on the circuit presents its own problems, as well; if it's too big it won't trip on a legitimate fault- and if that fault happens to be YOU, you're fucked.

This isn't about penis size, I'm not here to prove anyone wrong. I'm ALLLLLLL about the safety and several master electricians have carefully inspected and given their approval to everything that's been done here.

Cuz real life only gets one play.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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shadow_moose said:
You never bring a motor up to speed under torque. A motor coming up to speed under torque would cause what you're describing, as current is a function of load for almost all electric motors. A motor should not draw more than it's max current, so it should not be an issue if you have the. Current fluctuation does not kill breakers, it's constant current load that does.

Feel free to continue saying I'm wrong, but if what you say about your breaker setup is true, you're not running a 100% reliable operation.
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Depends on the breaker used.

In tty situation he hax figured his load and kept it at 80% of the breaker.

Now if it was a breaker not rated for continuous load then he want to figure 125% of the load and use that.

He is perfectly safe going up to the 80%.
 
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