What is wrong with these girls?

Bowtieguy77

Bowtieguy77

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The two are buried in miracle grow soil 7 gallon cloth pots all other additional additives are pictured. I water either every day or every other day depending on pot weight. Always watered with ph 6.0-6.5 well water. No problems with any other grows so ruling out well issue. Temps stay between 65 and 84 humidity 30%-50%. I have only been giving water for the last 3 times trying to figure out what is wrong. Yellow and crunchy leafs with spotting on the leafs. 600 watt hps running 20 hours a day. I moved them into a room by themselves today under a solar storm 440 led. 20170112_192003.jpg 20170112_192010.jpg 20170112_192003.jpg 20170112_192010.jpg 20170112_192003.jpg 20170112_192010.jpg
 

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im4satori

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how much of each of the fertilizers are you using?

youll need to measure the dry salt fertilizers in grams.. for example if your feeding 1tsp per gallon then I need to know what a tsp weighs
 
im4satori

im4satori

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I don't get it

the pic you provided shows some nutes...several bottles

is that what your using?

whats the 3 npk numbers on the ever green and on the salt fert.
 
OldMedUser

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Two words. Miracle and Grow. Should be it's a Miracle it Grows.

Serious nute overload and nitrogen toxicity is what's going on here. Flush the hell out of them before they turn into a pile of crunchy leaves and crumbling buds. I'm serious and not trying to jerk you around. I have a mild version of that going on now.

Here's some reading material for you. Some great grow bibles in the mix like Cervante's Basic Grow book. Great place to start and his other grow bibles too. You'll see pictures of your plant in the problems section. Read 'til your eyes bleed then read some more.

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS . I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books looks great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as some are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

:peace:
 
Bowtieguy77

Bowtieguy77

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They have only been fed once since they were transplanted and the ever green npk is 3-0-0 the miracle grow is 24-8-16 I feed it at half strength.
 
im4satori

im4satori

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you really need to find a better fertilizer option

but if your going to use what you have until you get something better

drop the evergreen
theres already lots/to much of N in the miracle grow so theres no reason to add more

feed 3grams per gallon of the miracle grow //// until you replace it
your under fed
this isn't going to fix the plant... its likely under fed and yes you've leached it out(as said)
but it will get you closer

and the ferts are likely lacking in calcium and or magnesium, not sure
 
Bowtieguy77

Bowtieguy77

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I normally only use the Miracle Grow and superthrive with molasses during flower so the Evergreen and the calmag were recent additions when the plant started acting crazy
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Bowtieguy77 said:
They have only been fed once since they were transplanted and the ever green npk is 3-0-0 the miracle grow is 24-8-16 I feed it at half strength.
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That's strong stuff even at half doses and the time release nutes in the MG soil has screwed up a lot of plants. The N in those is mostly ammonia nitrogen which is more rapidly absorbed by plants and burns them easily. I got the same Cal-Max as you and it was part of a large order I made recently and it also has N in it I don't want so will be shopping around for a different type.

Those MG powdered nutes you have in the box is made for flowers and is quite high in heavy metals like lead and cadmium too as it's not made for consumables. It may say that in fine print on the box as well.

Just say no to Miracle-Gro!

Those plants are not under-fed. They are burning up from too much. Splurge and get yourself some proper hydro nutes or even some organic stuff like Earth Juice.

:peace:
 
Bowtieguy77

Bowtieguy77

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When I can find something that will feed an entire grow for less than 100 dollars I will switch to it but until then I will stick with what I have had success with
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Bowtieguy77 said:
When I can find something that will feed an entire grow for less than 100 dollars I will switch to it but until then I will stick with what I have had success with
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You can get enough decent nutes of any brand to do a dozen 2 - plant grows like that for under $100. 3 1L bottles of AN pH Perfect nutes, $50, Small container of Big Bud, $25 and you already have calmag so a $25 bale of ProMix will make up the $100 and you'll grow a few thousand dollars worth of pot with that and have much better success. Won't need a pH pen and if you use RO water you won't have to worry about flushing your plants unless you go to heavy with the nutes and start burning your plants like they are now.

Success is subjective and if you're happy with what's going on now then I guess you're successful.

You were looking for advice and it's been given. Take it or leave it as you see fit and good luck to you.

:peace:
 
Bowtieguy77

Bowtieguy77

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I don't do any two plant grows I'm just having problems with these two plants. I needed help with these two plants not my entire grow.... what I'm doing works well and produces more than anyone could imagine. So I'll stick with it and spend penny's a day.
 
purplehays1

purplehays1

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Bowtieguy77 said:
The two are buried in miracle grow soil 7 gallon cloth pots all other additional additives are pictured. I water either every day or every other day depending on pot weight. Always watered with ph 6.0-6.5 well water. No problems with any other grows so ruling out well issue. Temps stay between 65 and 84 humidity 30%-50%. I have only been giving water for the last 3 times trying to figure out what is wrong. Yellow and crunchy leafs with spotting on the leafs. 600 watt hps running 20 hours a day. I moved them into a room by themselves today under a solar storm 440 led. View attachment 3875096 View attachment 3875097 View attachment 3875096 View attachment 3875097 View attachment 3875096 View attachment 3875097
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looks like nute burn, MG often has time released fert that will overfeed if overwatered.
 
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