Insight: Amare Tech Solar Spec LED Panels
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Where am I
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My vote goes to AMARE Technology. I have used them for 5 + years with out any issues. I ran a side by side comparison test with my SE-450 vs a 600 watt HPS system. It out performed the 600 watt system using less energy and producing more weight and a higher quality medicine. They have a great warranty and their spectrum is spot on.
Here is a pic of my latest grow they are about week 5:
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Just a suggestion based on what I see in the photo, you could probably lower the lights a bit to where the reflection off the walls is optimal for your canopy. You would need to balance heat but you might also be able to run softer with better results.
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Yes I did but it is on another forum... Google search " white light revolution"
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Sweet setup Hybrid!!
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You have to be REAL careful with AMARE's they are a lot like HPS (minus the heat). If you get them to close they will burn your plants. If you ;look at my previous post with the picture the rear plant has slight bleaching. I was running with the lenses on. I ended up taking them off..
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Totally agree! Heat is the enemy.
But if you could lower the lights and lower the power to get the same or better yields, that is the best of all worlds.
PPFD is all that matters. What the magic number is depends on the plant.
Great set-up.
Plants look like they're loving those lights.
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I have to remember who is on team Amare. Pet and Hybrid for sure. Nothing wrong with most vendors, even the chinese stuff has its place.
We seem to be reaching a point where all decent lights will do roughly the same job (putting out light power) and much of the outcome is dependent on the grower.
As it should be.
We seem to be reaching a point where all decent lights will do roughly the same job (putting out light power) and much of the outcome is dependent on the grower.
As it should be.
Hybridway
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No, I only grow clones.
Amare is matching the electrical efficiency of competitors lights while increasing the photosynthetic efficiency. All for less money per fixture then 85% of the other companies using similiar components.
Using all proven & desired tech w/ a great design & build quality. Great service & a 5 yr warranty are worth big bucks but they don't charge for it.
Not to mention, they are the original Cob light that shead the path for all the rest. Just look @ PLC's first CX-300. It's just a SE-450 w/o the enhancement monos & lens option. Same driver, # of cobs @ the same current but can't yield a #. Making it Useless to me.
Running the high CRI For over 3 yrs now @ the same efficiency as the cobs, causing no drop in efficiency using monos to tweak the cob to a true full spectrum.
Notice everyone wants high CRI but doesn't want to compromise their chip efficiency? They do that but w/ added 630 & 470 for increased morphology. Plus 65k for 450 & IR. Add 3k & 35k HO cobs & you have full spectrum perfect for cannabis w/ the highest DLI available in any existing led grow light. That makes these lights truly Canna-Specific. Enhanced DLI is the trick folks. Simple logic once you get past the whole quantity of a lesser spectrum being superior. Why do that when you could have equal quantity (or more) of a true full spectrum (higher quality).
All this for $2 a watt. The cost of pre-wired components w/o frames & not assembled.
Once I release the data from the latest studies, I bet you Stephen (Johnson) will jump on the enhancement train just like he does w/ every other companies design. Not a bad thing, gotta do what's best for your clients. I get it. He's a buss. Man. Make that money guy. Nothing wrong with that. So much cheaper when someone else does the research.
What gets me the most is the false claims made by even the so called most prestigious companies out there. These led manufactures just can't help but try to sell you a false dream for top dollar. The key is to know better then to believe everything they tell you.
As you can easily see on this Forum especially, light owners are pretty much in charge of what most people believe. Why not right, they are the professionals after all. It's more like false media telling you mostly what they want you to believe based on heightening their particular fixtures popularity.
I see it w/ Rahz & his Tastys & mathematical equations to determine #'s that could rather easily be distinguished through real life equipment. But at least he's not making wild claims, just selling $4+ watt garage made lights. Hey, you guys buy em, so I can't blame him for getting paid.
Got Platinum who claims to have the most powerful grow light known to man. Lol! Those par readings 6" off the center of the fixture are pretty impressive if you're a newbie who doesn't understand jack. Then the R+B spectrum. Mmmnnhhh! Personally, I think Plat is one of the only burple lights I've ever seen good results from. They make claims but none as bad as Kind or Hydroponics Hut who claimed their "Spectrum & light will exceed the growth rate of the sun itself" lmfao if I wasn't their victim. Fucking shit bags at Hydroponics Hut. People, NEVER EVER buy HH. Top $ too.
But the real problem lies w/ the trusted companies who are pulling the wool over your eyes. Example:
"Johnson CX-9 LED grow light utilizes 9 Top-Bin CREE LES Chips while using less energy and placing significantly less heat into the grow environment. This light will replace a 1000 watt HPS while only drawing 540 watts. At 2.58 umol/j, the CX-9 is extremely efficient. No other grow light comes close.
Growers can expect up to 1.5 grams/watt with this fixture depending on genetics and environment."
Ok, how much worse could this be? 1000 watt replacement. I doubt it could outperform a 600w hps w/ 2 CFL's.
You actually tell people they can expect 1.5 GPW? Wow! That's balls seeing how practically no one is pulling 1.5 GPW bag meat. Maybe flarf, popcorn, n wettish. Sure you here it being said like its normal but that's mostly cuz these poor readers read this & then went around saying 1.5 is the norm. Hear it all the time w/ no journals or sort of proof. Nothing.
My man BigSmo just pulled 1.5 off his Amare SE-450 w/ autos though. See it.
So, I'm sure it can be done but it isn't being showed around her.
Bahahabahaa! Seriously?! Oh, they're not cobs BTW, they're les's. Anything emitting light is an les but when you steal a logo from another company That says a "Welcome to the White Light Revelution" change it to say "Welcome to the LES revelution" I guess even know any form of light emitting fixture or bulb is an les, he had to grasp onto something from a more successful & original company like Amare.
Just like how 1/2 this forum copies words I say for the first time, mimicking is the strongest form of flattery. Like when Johnson made light housing w/ beveled edges from GG's manufacturer. He must admire GG to do that. Never hit the shelves though. GG wasn't having that shite. I hear ya GG. It's the only thing on your light that sets it apart from any other cob light. I'd be mad too.
Just be careful for The BS most of these light oeners spew to make their product shine.
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The proverbial 'many ways to skin a cat'
Both light quantity and quality are important. It just so happens that the latest white LED tech provides both.
Commercial vs DiY vs Economy will always exist. The competition is always healthy for any market.
Most important is it working for you. I have helped out a number of elderly who are growing medically for themselves using what you guys would call junk but they make the best out of it getting results they are happy with. Sure it would have been nice to start with a clean slate, but everything can't be easy.
And vendors (at least part suppliers) have to keep up with the latest tech advances and bandwagon jump - it is how they survive. Don't come down on them since they are the ones letting us be on the bleeding edge of tech.
Both light quantity and quality are important. It just so happens that the latest white LED tech provides both.
Commercial vs DiY vs Economy will always exist. The competition is always healthy for any market.
Most important is it working for you. I have helped out a number of elderly who are growing medically for themselves using what you guys would call junk but they make the best out of it getting results they are happy with. Sure it would have been nice to start with a clean slate, but everything can't be easy.
And vendors (at least part suppliers) have to keep up with the latest tech advances and bandwagon jump - it is how they survive. Don't come down on them since they are the ones letting us be on the bleeding edge of tech.
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Hybridway,
Ah the latest data.... Very impressive! I have many grows under my belt with AMARE's and my results are so consistent that I don't even worry about my lights. You just have to remember that even though they are cool they actually exceed an HPS system in PPFD.
I have fellow caregivers who still run HPS and we share genetics and I always obtain a sample to compare our medicine . We do double blind studies and the results are always in favor of the AMARE grown medicine. If it was a one off test or comparison I would suspect it as a mathematical fluke but not when the results are repeated over and over again by many grows and growers. Stepping off the soapbox...
Ah the latest data.... Very impressive! I have many grows under my belt with AMARE's and my results are so consistent that I don't even worry about my lights. You just have to remember that even though they are cool they actually exceed an HPS system in PPFD.
I have fellow caregivers who still run HPS and we share genetics and I always obtain a sample to compare our medicine . We do double blind studies and the results are always in favor of the AMARE grown medicine. If it was a one off test or comparison I would suspect it as a mathematical fluke but not when the results are repeated over and over again by many grows and growers. Stepping off the soapbox...
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It might be the picture or just me, but does it look like the center of the canopy is lower than the outer plants? If so, they probably are past saturation point and getting damaged. Can those fixtures be dialed down? Looks to be a scary amount of light for the area.
Latest data? So they are on to something... Going to the bank and paying for a niner.
Amare Pro9 folks, best led you can have.
Right H?
I bet that after everything Amare shows there will be some that are hard headed, but you are right about all manufacturers suplementing cobs.
Amare Pro9 folks, best led you can have.
Right H?
I bet that after everything Amare shows there will be some that are hard headed, but you are right about all manufacturers suplementing cobs.
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Where am I
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SHHHH.... I am sure it won't be some edited video either.
SensiPuff
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Hello everyone. After reading Joe shmos journal I went ahead and purchased an se250. I know this fixture doesn't have the uvb light like the 450, but I was wondering if it still had any uv from the supplementing diodes. Thanks for any replies
Cant wait to get my light and get rid of hid lighting
Cant wait to get my light and get rid of hid lighting