Strain or method for very fast turnaround?

sheckylovejoy

sheckylovejoy

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Hi. I'm finishing up my first indoor grow in a few weeks, and I'm starting to plan the next one. Unfortunately, we have a poorly timed 2-week vacation in the late spring, and it looks like the schedule is going to be very tight if I want a harvest before we leave. I have 9 weeks between the expected harvest date of my current grow and when we would have to harvest the new grow to leave for our trip (this includes a week to dry before they go in the jars with Boveda packs).

After searching around here's the two solutions I came up with:
  1. Get a fast-flowering strain like Sensei Northern Lights (6-7 weeks). Germinate in the last 2 weeks of my current grow, so they will start seedling/veg phase in 12/12 until I harvest the first grow and turn the lights back to 18/6. This will still only be 3-4 weeks of veg before I will have to flip the lights.
  2. Get clones, which I have zero experience with. I can buy them locally. Let the clones veg for 2 weeks then flip the lights. I will still need a very fast-flowering strain.
Please let me know if you have any thoughts on this, or some other method or strain. Thanks.

Details on setup here:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/build-journal-turning-a-7x7-shed-into-a-grow-room.922754/
TL;DR: 7x7 shed. 3x3 tray. 5x3 scrog. COB LED
 
cool2burn

cool2burn

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You can go 12/12 from the start if you want you will not get a lot but if you grow a bunch a little ones you can do it a lot of the vertical growers use this technique. Only Veg for a couple days then flower.
 
sheckylovejoy

sheckylovejoy

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cool2burn said:
You can go 12/12 from the start if you want you will not get a lot but if you grow a bunch a little ones you can do it a lot of the vertical growers use this technique. Only Veg for a couple days then flower.
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Thanks for the speedy reply

So in this method, I would start during the final weeks of my current grow at 12/12 and just keep it that way, even after harvest of the current crop? Do you have a reference/thread about this sort of thing?

Thanks again.
 
sheckylovejoy

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a senile fungus said:
How big is your space? Get clones, flower them almost immediately, you'll at least get something before vacation.
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I was thinking that this was likely my best bet. At lunch I am going to go to the clone store and see if they'd be willing to keep a few under their lights for a week or 2 for me.
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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sheckylovejoy said:
I was thinking that this was likely my best bet. At lunch I am going to go to the clone store and see if they'd be willing to keep a few under their lights for a week or 2 for me.
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Why don't you just buy them and keep them under lights yourself? You could prepare them now, and have them in the flower room asap. The plants finishing could move to the side and give the next cycle priority, and you would be beginning your next cycle as you process the plant from your last cycle. Minimum downtime.
 
sheckylovejoy

sheckylovejoy

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a senile fungus said:
Why don't you just buy them and keep them under lights yourself? You could prepare them now, and have them in the flower room asap. The plants finishing could move to the side and give the next cycle priority, and you would be beginning your next cycle as you process the plant from your last cycle. Minimum downtime.
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I'm a little short on space. They would have to go to the side in the basket you see on the left in the photo, which is not optimal. The lights will be much higher by then, by about 2'

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Headed over there now to see what they got.
 
cool2burn

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I would just rig something cheap up like a couple Walmart led's until i moved them out of the way. When the plants are small they do not need as much light. Also if your gonna go straight flower maybe keep the light farther than normal to maximize stretch at first? This is something i want to try. I am torturing my plants right now trying different techniques.
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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cool2burn said:
I would just rig something cheap up like a couple Walmart led's until i moved them out of the way. When the plants are small they do not need as much light. Also if your gonna go straight flower maybe keep the light farther than normal to maximize stretch at first? This is something i want to try. I am torturing my plants right now trying different techniques.
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Are you offering advice from experience or recommending experiments? Jeez.


sheckylovejoy said:
Looking at 3/13 is my best guess. Must harvest next crop by 5/11, so a 7-week strain means flipping to flower by 3/23. Any way I do it, I need to get something going before harvest of current.
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I would probably get clones in mid to late February, transplant them, and put them into flower by beginning of March, even if it's at the edge of your current space. While they're transitioning into flower you'll be harvesting and can move the clones into the real space and get them a net for support. I think that's one of the only ways you'll meet your time frame...

Maybe somebody else has a better idea.

The above poster is right, you could rig up some lights just to keep the clones happy, they wouldn't need much. But don't encourage stretch, that's folly.
 
cool2burn

cool2burn

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a senile fungus said:
Are you offering advice from experience or recommending experiments? Jeez.




I would probably get clones in mid to late February, transplant them, and put them into flower by beginning of March, even if it's at the edge of your current space. While they're transitioning into flower you'll be harvesting and can move the clones into the real space and get them a net for support. I think that's one of the only ways you'll meet your time frame...

Maybe somebody else has a better idea.

The above poster is right, you could rig up some lights just to keep the clones happy, they wouldn't need much. But don't encourage stretch, that's folly.
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Ive never gone 12/12 from the start but i have stretched my plants before. i would just be worried that they would become to top heavy before he could get them in the net. I personally do experment i have a plant with 1 leaf on it right now i am trying a 1 sided mainline just to see what happens lol. I've also stunted plants giving them heat stress in small spaces. I do not consider myself an expert by far but im at the point that i like to mess around and im getting into hydro. outside of my aerogarden Figure if i can do this with my shitty aero garden then i should get decent results with the good stuff.

 
sheckylovejoy

sheckylovejoy

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Just went to the store, Clonesville in Studio City for you So Cal folks. Great selection and nice looking plants.

Anyway, in addition to their young clones, they also have "teens" which were very nice 2-footers with about 8-10 nodes. They are a little pricey at $35 per, but as a one time deal I think this may be the way to go.

They don't top the teens, so I will have to pick the right plants that I can bend under the ScrOG. I think I can get away with 1.5 weeks of veg and then to flower.
 
sheckylovejoy

sheckylovejoy

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Yeah, I think this is the right solution. Much less stress, but I will be limited to whatever they have that week. Fingers crossed, I hope they have Northern Lights
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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sheckylovejoy said:
Yeah, I think this is the right solution. Much less stress, but I will be limited to whatever they have that week. Fingers crossed, I hope they have Northern Lights
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Transplant them into bigger containers as soon as you get them, give them a week and a half of veg with some type of adequate lighting, then into your flower system as soon as the ripe ones are out. Sounds like a plan, eh?
 
sheckylovejoy

sheckylovejoy

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a senile fungus said:
Transplant them into bigger containers as soon as you get them, give them a week and a half of veg with some type of adequate lighting, then into your flower system as soon as the ripe ones are out. Sounds like a plan, eh?
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Indeed it does. So 18/6 for that first 10 days? Or should I try more light like 20/4?
 
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