DIY Citizen Cob LED grow

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berten-ernie420

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4 Citizen CLU048-1818 4000K
On an HLG-320C-1400A
4 Citizen CLU048-1818 3000K
On an HLG-320C-1400A
8 Ideal 50-2204CT Chiplok cob holders
All 8 are bare, (no reflector)
6+ ft l, 31 in w, 7 ft tall grow closet
Lights are 4 ft long, cobs spaced apart evenly
2 seperate bars, 1 holding the 4000k
Other holding the 3000k, side by side 8 in of gap.

I used two different heatsink types, first light consits of 4 mechatronix 120mm×80mm Passive pin fin style heatsinks, second build consists of 4 mechatronix ICELED Ultra 99mm×75mm Active heatsinks. The passive ones, i attached some 80mm cpu fans I had laying around on top for some added cooling power. So i had a previous post in which a fellow riu'er had figured the light numbers out for me. These are not my figures, but rather numbers put into the calculator for me as it wouldnt work on my phone. And these figures are only for one single light bar with 4 cobs.

FULL POWER

1818 3000K70Min 4 COBS @1400 mA ON 1.813 PROFILE HEATSINK
8 SQ.FT. CANOPY 90% EFFICIENT DRIVER @10 CENTS PER KWH
Total power watts at the wall: 329.46
Cobs power watts: 296.52
Total voltage forward: 211.80
Total lumens: 48005.12
Total PAR watts assuming 10% loss: 131.72
Total PPF: 711.30
PPFD based on canopy area: 957.04

PAR watts per sq.ft.: 16.47
Cob efficiency: 49.36%
Power watts per sq.ft.: 37.06
Voltage forward per cob: 52.95
Lumens per watt: 161.90
Total heat watts: 151.22
COB cost dollar per PAR watt: $0.70
Electric cost @12/12 in 30 days: $11.86
Electric cost @18/6 in 30 days: $17.79
Cost per cob: $23.0
Total heatsink cost: $56.00
Total cobs cost: $92.0


70% POWER

1818 3000K70Min 4 COBS @980 mA ON 1.813 PROFILE HEATSINK
8 SQ.FT. CANOPY 90% EFFICIENT DRIVER @10 CENTS PER KWH
Total power watts at the wall: 224.53
Cobs power watts: 202.08
Total voltage forward: 206.20
Total lumens: 34396.19
Total PAR watts assuming 10% loss: 94.38
Total PPF: 509.65
PPFD based on canopy area: 685.73

PAR watts per sq.ft.: 11.80
Cob efficiency: 51.89%
Power watts per sq.ft.: 25.26
Voltage forward per cob: 51.55
Lumens per watt: 170.21
Total heat watts: 97.00
COB cost dollar per PAR watt: $0.97
Electric cost @12/12 in 30 days: $8.08
Electric cost @18/6 in 30 days: $12.12
Cost per cob: $23.0
Total heatsink cost: $56.00
Total cobs cost: $92.00

Total for the 2 builds, came out to $620. Thats for parts ordered, materials for the frame, miscellaneous parts like the mounting screws that they didnt send with the heatsinks, and some thermal grease i had to source because i forgot TIM on the first order. I got everything for the frames from Home Depot. All the lighting components were from an online distributor.

I want to run 8-12 decently sized plants under these light bars. The cobs are spaced apart about 8 in (length wise) per frame. And about 8 in (width wise) per frame. So i figure it has a decent spread. Decent enough to scrog a closet grow 31 in deep, +/-5 ft long, 7 ft tall.

I currently only have 3 plants under the lights since the other beans havent popped up yet. But i will be putting more in dirt within the next couple days. Maybe even run a few clones from a friend. Im weary of clones tho, you never know what you might bring into your grow room, from someone elses.

Anyway, back to the strains;
1 Tangerine Dream fem
1 Currant Kush fem (clone, my last grow)
1 Diesel Berry Auto (may be dead seed)
1 Cherry Bomb Auto (in water, absorbing)
1 Arjans Haze 1 fem (in water, absorbing)
1 Freezeberry Auto (not a true auto, weak genetics, f1 hybrid, in water, absorbing)

They are all in homemade pots. Totes i drilled drainage holes into. I may end up getting some 10 gal air pots or something later down the road. But this grow, theyre in roughly 7 gal tote pots. Theyve shown good results as far as root development in previous grows for me. So if it isnt broke, dont fix it, right? Roots Organics 707 soil mix with some extra perlite. Fox Farms "Smart Naturals" with the dry solubles nutrient lineup. But i stray from their feeding schedule slightly, supplementing here and there, tweaking this and that to what i feel is appropriate and to get the maximum nutrient uptake as possible, compared to where the plant is at, developmentally.

I think I covered all bases as far as starting my new led closet grow journal. I'll start taking pics tomorrow or tuesday depending on how long it takes for the rest of the beans to actually sprout. Till then, heres a pic of just one light bar and a few plants under it.
 

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berten-ernie420

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That, i believe youre refering to, is the previous space blanket relfective material i put up before putting up the panda film. But i can see why you would be confused. .
 

The Dawg

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Your Space Blanket Is Shinny Correct This Is In Between The 2 Shinny Point On The Bottom? Any Way Nice Setup I Run The Citizen 1212 and 1812 My Damn Self bongsmilie
 

berten-ernie420

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Your Space Blanket Is Shinny Correct This Is In Between The 2 Shinny Point On The Bottom? Any Way Nice Setup I Run The Citizen 1212 and 1812 My Damn Self bongsmilie
Are you talking about this? Lol
And this is my first led build or grow. I ran cfls twice before and skipped the hps entirely. Best bang for my buck, i went with the 18s. Im a little weary on the spectrums however. 4000k and 3000k. What specs do you run?
 

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The Dawg

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Yep That's The Object In Question :clap: I Run Any Where From 3500k-5000k and They All Have Advantages However My Favorite All A Round Is The 4000k. :hump:
 

berten-ernie420

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Hey fellas quick question. Running the cobs at 700ma for veg, how high should they be from the canopy? Ive heard anywhere from 6" all the way up to 24". I like the short node spacing to implement training techniques but i dont want to bleach them. Ideas? Experience?
 

Moflow

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Hey fellas quick question. Running the cobs at 700ma for veg, how high should they be from the canopy? Ive heard anywhere from 6" all the way up to 24". I like the short node spacing to implement training techniques but i dont want to bleach them. Ideas? Experience?
I keep my comandodo lights 18" - 12" from tops lol - cxbs at 50 watts/sq ft.
Due to low headroom i keep the plants short n squat by battering them with intense light.
Ive a Cree cxb 3590 3500K veg light at 50 watts-ish and I had to move a plant that was directly under it to the side as it's so powerful.
 
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