Trump being sued for violating Constitution

ttystikk

ttystikk

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TacoMac said:
They can't. Or, at least, no other president in American History has until now.

You speak as though you have absolutely no idea what liquidation is or what a conflict of interest is. Allow me to educate you in about the most layman way I can:

Let's say that you have an oil sheik from Dubai come over to the U.S. for a conference on crude oil pricing. Let's say he stays in Trump Hotel, which the Donald still has stock in. Let's then say that the price of oil skyrockets and shoots gasoline prices through the roof. It then comes to light that during his stay, that oil sheik payed about 10,000 times the going rate for his room.

Now then, it wouldn't be too big a leap to suggest at that point that the sheik paid off our President on a crude oil deal to make a ton of money. After all, since he wound up paying Trump by way of dividends and earnings through his stock, that's exactly what happened: the President would profit from a deal that hurt the American people.

That is one example. Let's take it one step further:

Let's say Trump owned stock in a defense contractor. He then goes to war with a nation over very dubious reasons. It then comes to light that the most used unit he's sending to war comes from the very defense contractor he owns stock in.

Yea. That wouldn't look very good either, would it?

These are the reasons that no sitting president has ever carried his businesses and stocks into the White House with him: to avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest.

This is something Trump is simply refusing to do. It's almost as if he fully plans on doing exactly that: promoting himself and his businesses through the White House. That is why everybody on the planet except for the minority that is the Trump fangirls are crying "Foul" over it.

As for your lame article, they invested in Treasury Bonds and Notes. Those are not stocks. Those are issued by the U.S. Government. As such, they only profit if the United States profits. That is not a conflict of interest because he isn't personally profiting if the nation suffers.
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This is well done.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
See I don't get this double standard. So Trump has his kids managing his company right? A hotel chain and golf courses.

Joe Biden's son was a chair of Barista Energy (after he got kicked out of the military for blowing too much coke), the biggest non government petroleum company in Ukraine. And John Kerry's son-in-law was also a management chair of that very same company. And then, whoa, a state department backed coup just so happened to go down in Ukraine, crazy right?

Bullshit "liberals", your buttbuddies' nepotism was inches from starting a world war and you're bitching about hotels. Seriously, you aren't into politics, you're into fitting in.
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impeach trump......that is all
 
Milliardo Peacecraft

Milliardo Peacecraft

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TacoMac said:
They can't. Or, at least, no other president in American History has until now.

You speak as though you have absolutely no idea what liquidation is or what a conflict of interest is. Allow me to educate you in about the most layman way I can:

Let's say that you have an oil sheik from Dubai come over to the U.S. for a conference on crude oil pricing. Let's say he stays in Trump Hotel, which the Donald still has stock in. Let's then say that the price of oil skyrockets and shoots gasoline prices through the roof. It then comes to light that during his stay, that oil sheik payed about 10,000 times the going rate for his room.

Now then, it wouldn't be too big a leap to suggest at that point that the sheik paid off our President on a crude oil deal to make a ton of money. After all, since he wound up paying Trump by way of dividends and earnings through his stock, that's exactly what happened: the President would profit from a deal that hurt the American people.

That is one example. Let's take it one step further:

Let's say Trump owned stock in a defense contractor. He then goes to war with a nation over very dubious reasons. It then comes to light that the most used unit he's sending to war comes from the very defense contractor he owns stock in.

Yea. That wouldn't look very good either, would it?

These are the reasons that no sitting president has ever carried his businesses and stocks into the White House with him: to avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest.

This is something Trump is simply refusing to do. It's almost as if he fully plans on doing exactly that: promoting himself and his businesses through the White House. That is why everybody on the planet except for the minority that is the Trump fangirls are crying "Foul" over it.

As for your lame article, they invested in Treasury Bonds and Notes. Those are not stocks. Those are issued by the U.S. Government. As such, they only profit if the United States profits. That is not a conflict of interest because he isn't personally profiting if the nation suffers.
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Nice try, it says Obama invests in the Vanguard Whole Market Index Fund, I invest in the same one, it's a basically a basket of stock derivatives that indexes the S&P. And goes onto say Biden and his wife were actively investing. You're talking absolute nonsense. So they could bribe him through his hotels? I wouldn't worry about it, he's already a billionaire, and you were about to elect Clinton with her phony Saudi money laundering charity.

Regarding the Bidens:
"Their financial disclosure form shows investments valued at between $1,000 and $15,000 in the following funds: Invesco VI Global Health fund, Invesco VI International Growth fund, Dreyfus IP Technology Growth, Janus Aspen Enterprise, Janus Aspen fund, MFS VIT Utilities, Rydex SGI VT Mid Cap Growth, and Rydex SGI VT Small Cap Value. "

So theoretically some foreign actor could have offered one of those consulting firms 100x their rate on a contract and Biden would have profited handsomely. But no one ever brought that up, because this isn't about a conflict of interest, it's about sore losers hating Trump.

This is getting so petty, it's embarrassing. If you are forced to make shit up about your opponent and cherrypick data, you're being intellectually dishonest and you've lost the battle of ideas. Yes, Obama owned stocks in multinational companies while in office, so did Biden, so did Bush, and Cheney (OBVIOUSLY). This lawsuit is tabloid trash.
 
Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
Nice try, it says Obama invests in the Vanguard Whole Market Index Fund, I invest in the same one, it's a basically a basket of stock derivatives that indexes the S&P. And goes onto say Biden and his wife were actively investing. You're talking absolute nonsense. So they could bribe him through his hotels? I wouldn't worry about it, he's already a billionaire, and you were about to elect Clinton with her phony Saudi money laundering charity.

Regarding the Bidens:
"Their financial disclosure form shows investments valued at between $1,000 and $15,000 in the following funds: Invesco VI Global Health fund, Invesco VI International Growth fund, Dreyfus IP Technology Growth, Janus Aspen Enterprise, Janus Aspen fund, MFS VIT Utilities, Rydex SGI VT Mid Cap Growth, and Rydex SGI VT Small Cap Value. "

So theoretically some foreign actor could have offered one of those consulting firms 100x their rate on a contract and Biden would have profited handsomely. But no one ever brought that up, because this isn't about a conflict of interest, it's about sore losers hating Trump.

This is getting so petty, it's embarrassing. If you are forced to make shit up about your opponent and cherrypick data, you're being intellectually dishonest and you've lost the battle of ideas. Yes, Obama owned stocks in multinational companies while in office, so did Biden, so did Bush, and Cheney (OBVIOUSLY). This lawsuit is tabloid trash.
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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
Nice false equivalence, a brick and mortar company isn't the same thing receiving money for access to the state department. You should really look up a list of logical fallacies sometimes, you're all over the place bruh.
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so let me get this straight, you are saying the saudis paid millions to the clinton foundation, which the clinton foundation then used to save lives worldwide, in order to gain access to clinton which they never got.

in the meantime, you ignore the fact that trum pockets money directly from the saudis, pays money directly to the saudis, makes no attempt to divert their money to charitable groups (especially since his foundation is under criminal investigation), and ignore the fact that trum is appointing all of his top donors to cabinet posityons in the most corrupt pay for play scheme we have seen since warren harding.

wow. hard to be that hypocritical and dumb, but you managed. i guess you were able to focus all of your effort on being dumb since you are a virgin with no prospect of getting laid, ever.
 
Milliardo Peacecraft

Milliardo Peacecraft

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UncleBuck said:
i guess you were able to focus all of your effort on being dumb since you are a virgin with no prospect of getting laid, ever.
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Ad hominem and proving a negative, that list of fallacies would be pretty helpful bruh. The Saudis never got access to the biggest arms deal ever negotiated in the history of the world, which they're currently bombing Yemen with? And that wasn't under Clinton? Why are all these states pulling their donations to the foundation mere weeks after she lost? What's that all about, she could still give money to the poor children whether she's president or not, it's almost like they were paying for access.

And the Clinton Foundation is still under FBI investigation.

Also your dick doesn't work and you're a holocaust denier.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
Ad hominem
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awwww, the little trump lover does not like it when i insult him for being a virgin. too bad, kid. you voted for it.

i just find it hilarious that you accuse clinton of pay for play with no evidence whatsoever and look the other way when trum stuffs his cabinet with all of his top donors.

it's also pretty funny that you accuse hillary of doing bad by taking saudi money and saving lives around the world with it, but totally ignore trum running 8 businesses out of saudi arabia and pocketing the money himself.

that just screams "eternal virgin, mega hypocrite" to anyone paying attention.

oh, and you're a holocaust denier. just check out the queece account you owned up to.
 
Milliardo Peacecraft

Milliardo Peacecraft

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UncleBuck said:
awwww, the little trump lover does not like it when i insult him for being a virgin. too bad, kid. you voted for it.

i just find it hilarious that you accuse clinton of pay for play with no evidence whatsoever and look the other way when trum stuffs his cabinet with all of his top donors.

it's also pretty funny that you accuse hillary of doing bad by taking saudi money and saving lives around the world with it, but totally ignore trum running 8 businesses out of saudi arabia and pocketing the money himself.

that just screams "eternal virgin, mega hypocrite" to anyone paying attention.

oh, and you're a holocaust denier. just check out the queece account you owned up to.
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No you're a holocaust denier, I get more pussy on accident than you get on purpose, and there's plenty of evidence of pay-to-play. Look up who Frank Giustra is. Also Mark Rich donated millions to the foundation after Bill Clinton pardoned him during the last hour of his presidency. Pincus Green, same deal. Running a business that provides an advertised service in exchange for money isn't running a charity that exchanges arms deals for money.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
No you're a holocaust denier, I get more pussy on accident than you get on purpose, and there's plenty of evidence of pay-to-play.
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lol

the only pay for play happening is trum stuffing his cabinet with all of his top donors, while he rakes in cash hand over fist from saudi arabia, all greeted by stunning silence from you.
 
Milliardo Peacecraft

Milliardo Peacecraft

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UncleBuck said:
lol

the only pay for play happening is trum stuffing his cabinet with all of his top donors, while he rakes in cash hand over fist from saudi arabia, all greeted by stunning silence from you.
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Don't care, still won lol. Oh man, I almost forgot about those supreme court appointments.
 
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