Club 315w lec

Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Ok guys. Here are better pics of my Now enhanced spectrum flower room and some buds finished under the Phillips 315 LEC 3100k.

@Dr. Who I thought you might find this interesting and haven't seen you in here much.

The buds are all more defined in their individual phenos than any from my room before cmh. They also all smell and taste stronger and have higher potency and full spectrum of effects than any previous buds I have grown.

The lamp seems to help with uptake. Problems common at the end of flower seem reduced.

I do want to repeat as I have said before. The effect is SUBTLE!

I can not say that in a blind test I would always get which light right. But I might......

Hortilux Super HPS side
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Phillips 315 LEC side and overlap at the "L"
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Left to Right
Black Widow x Blue Lemon Thai #6
Black Widow x Blue Lemon Thai #5
Blue Lemon Thai #4

1st pic no camera flash 2nd pic camera flash on
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And I don't use 315's yet for veg but plant to when I get the tents out and the larger flower room built. So much light for the wattage. And the veg I am seeing around here is great!

Here is my fully covered 2' T-5 HO 6500k all around system.
2' x 3' Propogation tent for seedlings and cuttings
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3' x 3' Veg tent
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Here's that 1K with 400 MV set up.

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No, the MV bulb does not touch the hood glass.

It fires for 3.5 hrs in a 11/13 cycle...runs on hrs 4,5,6 and the first half of 7. Fits in with the light saturation point in C3 plants. That way it runs at the peak of the plants ability to use the available light, before it begins to change on the cellular peptide level to protect it's self from the intense light....I might move the timer up by 30 min. To see if the UV is better utilized with that in mind.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Dr. Who said:
Here's that 1K with 400 MV set up.

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No, the MV bulb does not touch the hood glass.

It fires for 3.5 hrs in a 11/13 cycle...runs on hrs 4,5,6 and the first half of 7. Fits in with the light saturation point in C3 plants. That way it runs at the peak of the plants ability to use the available light, before it begins to change on the cellular peptide level to protect it's self from the intense light....I might move the timer up by 30 min. To see if the UV is better utilized with that in mind.
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I wish I still had the links but when searching for uv results there was a commercial grow that had tested uv supplementation all through flowering and only for the last 2 weeks.

The added thc % was the same when tested. They chose switching out 10k metal halides for the last 2 weeks and run HPS like they had been for their consistent yield and bud density.

When I use my cmh for finishing I get the extra frost and trippy outdoor like effect and better flavor but it can't give me the nice dense lowers I am used to with my 600 HPS. With 2 it likely could.

So I rotate the plants for now but I will need equal wattage in my new spot for equal results it seems so far.

Now that I see where your mv is mounted I want to get my HPS and cmh close together to share a footprint and see what happens. I like how you are sharing the reflector.

I think maybe 3.5' x 5' for the 2 reflectors only 8" apart. For my direct down style reflectors. About 18" above the buds. 915 watts and a pretty full spectrum with low uv. Which honestly I really don't want high levels where I work. And I don't want more bulbs and circuits so.....

I better start cleaning out my basement. I don't want to cool this upgrade in my little spare bedroom. Back to work plus work for me. ;-)

I can't do the bulb switch as I have plants in all stages all the time in there.

Nice setup Dr. Who.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I wish I still had the links but when searching for uv results there was a commercial grow that had tested uv supplementation all through flowering and only for the last 2 weeks.

The added thc % was the same when tested. They chose switching out 10k metal halides for the last 2 weeks and run HPS like they had been for their consistent yield and bud density.

When I use my cmh for finishing I get the extra frost and trippy outdoor like effect and better flavor but it can't give me the nice dense lowers I am used to with my 600 HPS. With 2 it likely could.

So I rotate the plants for now but I will need equal wattage in my new spot for equal results it seems so far.

Now that I see where your mv is mounted I want to get my HPS and cmh close together to share a footprint and see what happens. I like how you are sharing the reflector.

I think maybe 3.5' x 5' for the 2 reflectors only 8" apart. For my direct down style reflectors. About 18" above the buds. 915 watts and a pretty full spectrum with low uv. Which honestly I really don't want high levels where I work. And I don't want more bulbs and circuits so.....

I better start cleaning out my basement. I don't want to cool this upgrade in my little spare bedroom. Back to work plus work for me. ;-)

I can't do the bulb switch as I have plants in all stages all the time in there.

Nice setup Dr. Who.
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I did a bunch of that testing over 10 years ago......I basically came up with some of the same data points.

The thing I like about running as I do. Is the overall more "normal" plant reaction to it, in the form of far better outdoor style trich coloring.......I have not bothered to test this style of peak lighting in THC levels vs. the old ways I first ran these MV's and then tested them.

The first method settled on was like an "on" time of between 5-10 min and hr - all day. Needless to say I was rather stressed over the 11-12 times a day the damn ballast and bulb were spiked.... I eventually put the MV's away and simply ran. Folks in the dispensaries started asking why some of the products "changed" to be "weaker or less intense"..

I went quickly back to adding the deep blue and UV MV's and began trying differing applications of them. I settled on this one due to the "light saturation point" effectively reducing plant photosynthesis by over 30% from around mid day till dusk on a bell curve.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Dr. Who said:
I did a bunch of that testing over 10 years ago......I basically came up with some of the same data points.

The thing I like about running as I do. Is the overall more "normal" plant reaction to it, in the form of far better outdoor style trich coloring.......I have not bothered to test this style of peak lighting in THC levels vs. the old ways I first ran these MV's and then tested them.

The first method settled on was like an "on" time of between 5-10 min and hr - all day. Needless to say I was rather stressed over the 11-12 times a day the damn ballast and bulb were spiked.... I eventually put the MV's away and simply ran. Folks in the dispensaries started asking why some of the products "changed" to be "weaker or less intense"..

I went quickly back to adding the deep blue and UV MV's and began trying differing applications of them. I settled on this one due to the "light saturation point" effectively reducing plant photosynthesis by over 30% from around mid day till dusk on a bell curve.
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I always got some colored resin glands under my Hortilux Super HPS on the old classic Sensei seed sativa containing strains from CH9 but one of my last Blue Lemon Thai crosses under the 415 LEC was peppered with purple and amber and some other variations of violet colorations as well as clear and cloudy.

It tasted of pure haze and hit very hard in the eyes and head. You would swear it was grown outdoor.
 
DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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The cmh made all my strains under the lights Purple at week 6 (2 weeks ago). No drop in temps needed. Absolutely LOVE these lights. = yields (best eye glance as of last night) to my 600s, almost half the power usage, tins better available light, 20k bulb life. Now I have quite a few 600 digital ballasts taking up shelf space.

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Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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DemonTrich said:
The cmh made all my strains under the lights Purple at week 6 (2 weeks ago). No drop in temps needed. Absolutely LOVE these lights. = yields (best eye glance as of last night) to my 600s, almost half the power usage, tins better available light, 20k bulb life. Now I have quite a few 600 digital ballasts taking up shelf space.

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How high do you hang your lights?
 
blowinmaryfast

blowinmaryfast

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Yes definitely. I have a decade old OGK that is a knockout for most. It's that classic chubby cheeked permagrin hit-from-all-angles stone that melts away any Pressure. I can blaze all it day but the new wave of patients here are more interested in an up, productive, creative buzz. So I'm working with a deadhead og.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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blowinmaryfast said:
Yes definitely. I have a decade old OGK that is a knockout for most. It's that classic chubby cheeked permagrin hit-from-all-angles stone that melts away any Pressure. I can blaze all it day but the new wave of patients here are more interested in an up, productive, creative buzz. So I'm working with a deadhead og.
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I got a deadhead OG going into flower soon.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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blowinmaryfast said:
Yes definitely. I have a decade old OGK that is a knockout for most. It's that classic chubby cheeked permagrin hit-from-all-angles stone that melts away any Pressure. I can blaze all it day but the new wave of patients here are more interested in an up, productive, creative buzz. So I'm working with a deadhead og.
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But, but, that's still only a 60/40 cross value!

ECSD would rock their world (and yours, more then you think) Try Dr. Greenthumb's....
 
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