Sure , so say something happened to a mother or group of Chem Ds and call it tobacco whatever there was a issue at time D was not as available as now. So most people know for the D by the yellowing. Not all chem D cuts have it more then less but those are most common with yellowing , as much info as can give sorry if confusing and it is, but if buds good I'm good. Have good day buddyTV? You're going to have to expand on that some, we thought it was TMV like 10 years ago, but it's since been ruled out as far as I'm concerned. Not sure of a label to put on it but just a trait that shows here and there.
I have progeny from the same Chem D that exhibits the same splotching, kind of like the variegation found in some Dj gear.
all of these may be wrong, or even made up even, research to know for sure, I did, but blind in one eye barely see out the other can hardly type too. caveat emptorRight on, thanks for the knowledge. Do any of the Topdawg strains have MSS? That's what I'm really looking for.
Giesel is half MSS, look for that cut or a cross with it in itRight on, thanks for the knowledge. Do any of the Topdawg strains have MSS? That's what I'm really looking for.
the disease would infect most of the plants around it I believe. you could just buy a test kit and put it to rest, if you were a neighbor i'd pay for it even but when it returned a negative result you owe me double, around 75 bucks.Thanks, understand and agree about the yellowing and TMV looked like what it was. We did not see the trait carry to neighboring plants which ruled out TMV, it seems tied to the specific cuts and progeny of those cuts.
Perhaps there's two classes of chem cuts, pure and tainted
Happy member of team tainted
I think you are not understanding what I said.the disease would infect most of the plants around it I believe. you could just buy a test kit and put it to rest, if you were a neighbor i'd pay for it even but when it returned a negative result you owe me double, around 75 bucks.
I dont do this, and I do grow many chem's long time, never seen it, but if its a worry the virus is carried and passed on through the shuck of the seed. the seed can be washed effectively and cleared of the virus. I know exactly how to wash the seed properly without damage to its content if interested.
I think you are not understanding what I said.
10 years ago the community in general thought the variegation was TMV. However, through observation we found that these, symptoms, did NOT spread throughout the garden so we concluded it was not TMV. No need for tests but test away if you must.
I do not mind the variegation and find it brings no problems, it only shows when the ladies that "carry" it (if that's even what's happening) are not being cared for ideally.
I'd like to see how yours come out if pics ever come back. I wasn't too impressed with the first run of mine, but the second run(happening now) always tells a better story. Sourdawg and underdog d were stronger but i had some serious herm issues with those two, they will be watched closely round 2.StarDawg IX with some sulfur is like a whole new level of frost.
Interesting about the herm issues, this IX started to head that direction in the stress tent. I plucked what I could (S1 party comin' up) and she has since only thrown a pair or three singlet bananas, no pollen flying to the eye and from a glance there are no male flowers throughout the canopy.I'd like to see how yours come out if pics ever come back. I wasn't too impressed with the first run of mine, but the second run(happening now) always tells a better story. Sourdawg and underdog d were stronger but i had some serious herm issues with those two, they will be watched closely round 2.
Yeah, my IX's were all solid. I had one set of bananas under one bud on #4, but that was it so it must have been a light leak/other issue. My sourdawg#1 had sacs everywhere. At the base of every bud, in every bud, I never seen anything like it. Pretty much every flowering plant in my room has/had seeds from this, but i don't pack them in there, so not really a big deal. No one is going to bitch about finding 10 seeds in a 1/4, it actually sells quicker sometimes lol. I have to check and see if the sourdawg's are 3.0, if they are they have the same dad as the underdawgs, and they were from the same date range. Out of 4 ladies, they all hermed, sourdawg #2 had the least amount of sacs, and they were all late so some hope there. Both underdawgs were pretty bad, and sourdawg#2 was just ridiculous. I was away for a few days and had someone watching them, so he could have fucked something up. I did notice the newer packs i bought of NYC chem and 3 chems didn't have the date on them like the older packs....thought that was odd.Interesting about the herm issues, this IX started to head that direction in the stress tent. I plucked what I could (S1 party comin' up) and she has since only thrown a pair or three singlet bananas, no pollen flying to the eye and from a glance there are no male flowers throughout the canopy.
Running her in a Solo cup that I converted into a solo-SIP hybrid, supplementing with Dr WHo's recommendation with the K-Sulfate, and I can't say if it's the sensi run, or the k-sulfate or the SIP, or a combination of them, but even in the stress tent (it's where we vet & give the boot to the overly finicky girls) this StarDawg IX has become somewhat of a ringer.
I was telling BigLittleJohn, back when I ran this same IX gal next to the Mycotek Hell Breath I all but had forgotten about the IX as the Hell Breath was blowing it out of the water in frost and density, photogenic, pretty much all departments.
Now we're on this second run and the IX is putting on the frost like she is trying to fuck with Krome's White (thanks to my homey Inkognyto) at day 42.
Not super loud though has that foul stank when you do catch a whiff. Anyone not expecting or ready for that smell might be turned off, I love it.
no big deal, shit happens......i always laugh when i see someone go apeshit over herms. I honestly think you have to really fuck up to have your whole room seeded to where all your product is lost. Like i said earlier, people might end up with 10 seeds in a 1/4, big deal. Anyone who has made seeds themselves knows sometimes you don't get as many as you think, so for all your bud to be worthless b/c of a herm.....damn near impossible if you ask me......maybe if you're only growing 2 plants in a 2x2. Anyway here is stardawg IX #1....last run for this guy.I've enjoyed many on this list and havent seen a hermie or seeds. I watch for late flower fingers and balls and never seen them. I havent had one disappoint me yet in smell stone or grow. I'm feeling fortunate, that shit would get me down for sure. sorry this happened to you
Didnt see Strawberry Star on there?all of these may be wrong, or even made up even, research to know for sure, I did, but blind in one eye barely see out the other can hardly type too. caveat emptor
Top Dawg Strain Index [updated 2/3/17]
JJ - NYC Crosses
2 OGs = Triangle Kush (F) x Tahoe/Tres Dawg (M)
3 OGs #1 = Loompa's Underdawg OG (F) x 2 OGs (M)
3 OGs #2 = LA Pure Kush (F) x 2 OG's (M)
3 OGs #3 = Ghost OG (F) x 2 OG's (M)
3 Chems = Cory Cut Star Dawg (F) x ONYCD (M)
91chem #12 = ONYCD (F) X 91 Chem BX2 (M)
91' ONYCD = Original New York City Diesel (F) x Chem 91 bx (M)
91' DUD = Double Under Dawg (F) x Chem 91 bx (M)
91 Star = Star Dawg (F) x 91 Chem BX2 (M)
A5 Mist = Kali Mist (F) x A5 BX1 (M)
A5 Silk = Nigerian Silk (F) x A5 BX1 (M)
Afkan HP = Afkanistan S1 (F) X HP13 BX1 (M)
African Cough = Strawberry Cough (KKSC) (F) x African Haze (M)
African Haze = Malawi Gold (F) x JJ's Nigerian (M)
African Silk = Nigerian Silk (F) x African Haze (M)
African Star = Nigerian Haze (F) x Star Dawg (M)
Afro Jam = Jamaican Highlander (F) x African Haze (M)
Black Dawg = Black Widow (F) x Star Dawg (M)
Black Nigerian = Black Haze (F) x JJ’s Nigerian (M)
Blue Asian Diesel = Blue Fantasy (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Bubba Chem = Bubba Kush (pre9 (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Bubba Kush 13 = Bubba Kush (pre9 (F) x NYC HP 13 (M)
Bubblegum Chem = Indiana Bubblegum (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Bubblegum Diesel = ONYCD (F) x Bubblegum Chem (M)
Bubblegum Kush = Suge Pure Kush (F) x Bubblegum Chem (M)
Bubblegum Skunk (BG Skunk) = UK cheese (F) x Bubblegum Chem (M)
CF Haze = Mango Haze (F) x White Hashplant (M)
Chem 91 IX = Chem 91 bx (F) x Chem 91 bx (M)
Chem 91 BX = Chem 91 sk va cut (F) x Chem91 sk va / Tres Dawg bx (M)
Chem D BX3 = Chem D (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Chem D Haze = D Haze (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Chem Dog 2017 = NYC Chem(F) X 91 Chem BX2 (M)
Chem Haze = Chem 4 / O haze (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Chem OG = 91 Chem bx (F) x 2 OGs (M)
Chem Star = Chem D (F) X Star Dawg (M)
Chem Wrecker = Day Wrecker (F) X ONYCD (M)
Chem Urkle 1 = Purple Urkle (F) x Tres Sister (M)
Chem Urkle 2 = Purple Urkle (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Cherry Diesel = Cherry Pie (F) X 91 Chem BX2 (M)
China Cat = Trinity (F) X ONYCD (M)
Citrus Haze = Tangerine Haze (F) x Neville's Haze (M)
Citron City = Tangerine Haze (F) x ONYCD (M)
City Hoe = Tahoe OG (F) X ONYCD (M)
City Sativa = Nigerian Haze (f) x ONYCD (M)
Coffee Kush = Bubba Kush (pre9 (F) x White Hashplant (M)
Crystal Haze = Nigerian Haze (F) x Kali mist/Nigerian haze (M)
Dawg Bizkit = Wookies (Lead Sled) (F) X 91 Chem BX2 (M)
Dawgs Waltz = Purple Urkle (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Day Dreamer = Blue Dream (F) X ONYCD (M)
Denver Diesel = ONYCD (F) x Tre OG (M)
DNL = Hawaiian (F) x RFK Skunk/NL (M)
DNL 2 = DNL (F) x DNL/SS (M)
DNL-D = DNL (F) x Double Dawg (M)
DDNL = Chem D (F) x DNL/SS (M)
D Haze = Chem D (F) x Flying Dutchman Original Haze (M)
D King = Elvis (F) x Double Dawg (M)
D OG = Chem D (F) x 2 OG's (M)
Double Bubble = Sour Bubble (F) x Bubblegum Chem (M)
Double Dawg = Chem D (F) x Chem D/Afghani #1 (M)
Double Under Dawg (DUD) = Under Dawg (F) x Under Dawg #1 (M)
Durban Nigerian = Durban (F) x JJ’s Nigerian (M)
Guava 13 = Star Dawg (Guava) (F) x NYC HP13 (M)
Guava D = Star Dawg (Guava) (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Guava IX = Guava cut (F) x Star Dawg (M)
Hawaiian Chem = Hawaiian Indica (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Headcracker = Tres Dawg IX (F) x Tre OG (M)
Hell's Kitchen Kush = Nigerian Kush (F) x ONYCD (M)
High Time = DNL (F) x Tre OG (M)
HP #7 = HP13; Puck Pheno (F) X HP13 BX (M)
HP13 f2 = HP13 BX1 (F) X HP13 BX1 (M)
HPD = HP #1 (F) x Double Dawg (M)
Inner Eye = Headband (F) X ONYCD (M)
Jam 91 = Jamaican Highlander (F) x Chem 91 bx (M)
Jamaican Diesel = Jamaican Highlander (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
JJ’s Nigerian = Nigerian Silk (F) x (Nigerian Silk x NL5Haze) (M)
JJ’s Mango = Mango Haze (F) x JJ’s Nigerian (M)
Lemon Lime Diesel = Sour OG (F) x ONYCD (M)
MN Silk = Nigerian Silk (F) x Mango Nigerian (M)
Mango A5 = Mango Nigerian (F) x A5 BX1 (M)
Mango Nigerian Cough = Cough (F) X Mango Nigerian (M)
Mango Nigerian Haze f2 = Mango Nigerian Cough (F) x Nigerian haze (M)
Mandela Haze = Nigerian Haze (F) x African Haze (M)
Misty Silk = Nigerian Silk (F) x Kali Mist/Nigerian Haze (M)
Nigerian Haze = JJ’s Nigerian (F) x Flying Dutchman Original Haze (M)
Nigerian Mist = Kali Mist (F) x JJ’s Nigerian (M)
Nigerian Silk Kush = Nigerian Silk (F) x Tre OG (M)
NYC Chem = Chem D (F) x (Chem91 x Tres Dawg) (M)
NYC Chem 2.0 = Chem D (F) X 91 Chem BX2 (M)
NYC Cookies = GSC Forum Cut (F) x ONYDC (M)
NYC Hashplant = Skelly’s Co HP (F) x HPD (M)
NYC HP13 = HP13 (F) x HPD (M)
NYCB = Bubba Kush (F) x ONYCD (M)
NYC OG = Tahoe (F) X ONYCD (M)
NYC Sister = ONYCD (F) x Tres Sister (M)
NYC Sour Diesel = Sour Diesel (AJ) (F) x ONYCD (M)
NYC Star Dawg = Chem 4 (F) x ONYCD (M)
ONYCD aka Original NYC Diesel = Chem '91 (SkunkVA) (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
ONYCD IX = ONYCD #12 (F) x ONYCD (M)
ONYCD 3.0 = 91 Chem (F) X Tres Dawg (M)
P Dawg = HP13 (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
P Dub = U Dub S1 (F) X HP13 BX (M)
P Haze = HP13 BX1 (F) x A5 BX1 (M)
PD13 = HP13 (F) x Star Dawg (M)
POG = HP13bx1 (F) x Tre OG (M)
Pope Sativa = Chem D (F) x JJ’s Nigerian (M)
Purple Star Dawg = British Hempire Purple Afghani (F) x Star Dawg (M)
RIP Haze = Amnesia Haze (F) x Original Haze (M)
S Haze = Strawberry Cough (KKSC) (F) x Neville's Haze (M)
Sister City = Chem Sister (F) x ONYCD (M)
Skunk OG = UK Cheese (F) x Tre OG (M)
Sour City = Aj Sour (F) x ONYCD (M)
Sour African = Sour Diesel (AJ) (F) x African Haze (M)
South Park Chem = Chem3/Tres Dawg (F) X 91 Chem BX2 (M)
Snoop dawg = BRIAN OG aka snoop kush (F) x Chem 91 bx (M)
Snoop dawg 2.0 = Brian OG (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Sour Dawg = Sour Diesel (AJ) (F) x Double Dawg (M)
Sour Dawg 3.0 = Sour Diesel (AJ) (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Sour Sister = Sour Diesel (AJ) (F) x NYC Sister (M)
Space Urkle = Urkle (F) x Tre OG (M)
Star Cookie = GSC Fourm Cut (F) x Star Dawg (M)
Star Dawg 4.0 = Chem 4 (F) x Tres Dawg 2016 (M)
Star Dawg 91 = Star Dawg (F) x Chem 91 bx (M)
Star Dawg IX = Star Dawg (Corey Haim) (F) x Star Dawg (M)
Star Dawg = Chem 4 (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Star Dawg Sister = Chem 4 (F) x Tres Sister (M)
Star Fucker = Sensi Star (F) X 91 Chem BX2 (M)
Star Kush = Nigerian Kush (F) x Star Dawg (M)
Star Og =Tahoe (F) X Star Dawg (M)
Strawberry HP = Strawberry Cough (KKSC) (F) x White Hashplant (M)
Strawberry Mango = Strawberry Cough (KKSC) (F) x JJ's Mango (M)
Strawberry Nigerian = Strawberry Cough (KKSC) (F) x JJ’s Nigerian (M)
Super 91 = Super Skunk (F) X 91 Chem BX2 (M)
Super Silver Star = Super Silver Haze (F) x Star Dawg (M)
::::))))) got itThanks, understand and agree about the yellowing and TMV looked like what it was. We did not see the trait carry to neighboring plants which ruled out TMV, it seems tied to the specific cuts and progeny of those cuts.
Perhaps there's two classes of chem cuts, pure and tainted
Happy member of team tainted
its tough to discern sometimes. I read over and over how the same rooms produce so many hermies here, and then the grow reports come next..."damned hermie traits in those strains"/// pooh pooh I say. I see NO hermies in years and years of sampling hundreds of seed selections, including tres gear. If I see a hermie born in the flower room she goes to the firepit without a tear, well, one tear maybe.no big deal, shit happens......i always laugh when i see someone go apeshit over herms. I honestly think you have to really fuck up to have your whole room seeded to where all your product is lost. Like i said earlier, people might end up with 10 seeds in a 1/4, big deal. Anyone who has made seeds themselves knows sometimes you don't get as many as you think, so for all your bud to be worthless b/c of a herm.....damn near impossible if you ask me......maybe if you're only growing 2 plants in a 2x2. Anyway here is stardawg IX #1....last run for this guy.
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Didnt see Strawberry Star on there?
whered you acquire the list? wonder if theres a reason it was left out either way im excited for em..but was just curious.
edit: nvm i read your enitre post my bad
No this not any "mss" in there they let us know if was its sensi super skunk...Super Star Dawg = Mass Super Skunk (F) x Star Dawg (M)
Super Star Dawg 2.0 = Super Skunk (F) x Star Dawg (M)
T3 = Chem 3 (F) x Tre Dawg (M)
T91 = Tres Dawg (F) X 91 Chem BX2 (M)
Thai Girl = Gold King Thai (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Tres Dawg = Chem D (F) x Double Dawg (M)
Tres Dawg IX = Tres Dawg (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Tres Haze = Black Haze (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Tres Kush = Pure Kush (Suge) (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Tres OG = Tahoe OG (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Tres Sister = Chem Sister (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Tres Star Dawg = Star Dawg (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Tre Star Dawg 2.0 = Stardawg (Corey Haim) X Tres Dawg 2016 (M)
Under Dawg = Chem '91 (SkunkVA) (F) x Mass Super Skunk/Sensi's Northern Lights (M)
Under Dawg #1 = Under Dawg (F) x Under Dawg/Sensi Super Skunk x Sensi Afghani #1 (M)
Under Dawg D = Double Under Dawg (DUD) (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
Under Dawg Super Skunk = Under Dawg (F) x Sensi's Super Skunk (M)
White D = The White (F) x Star Dawg (M)
White Dawg = The White (F) x Tres Dawg (M)
White Guava = Star Dawg (Guava) (F) x White Hashplant (M)
White Hashplant = The White (F) x HPD (M)
White Hashplant BX = The White (F) x White Hashplant (M)
White Haze = The White (F) x Flying Dutchman Original Haze (M)
White Kush = Pure Kush (Suge) (F) x White Hashplant (M)
White Star Dawg = Star Dawg (F) x White Hashplant (M)
WWD = White Widow (F) x Star Dawg (M)
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Familia Funk = Chem 3 / Stardawg (F) x Butter Skunk (M)
I-95 = Triangle Kush (F) x Legend Og/Stardawg IX2 (M)
I-NYC = I-95 (F) x ONYCD (M)
LD95 = Legend Star Dawg IX (F) X (M) I-95
Mangerian Skunk = Mango Nigerian (F) x Butter Skunk (M)
PHI NYC = Philly Skunk (F) X ONYCD (M)
Philly Skunk(P1 (F) x Butter Skunk (M)
Scampi Skunk = Chem Sister (F) x Butter Skunk (M)
Scout 95 = Fourm GSC (F) X I-95 (M)
Star 95 = Star Dawg (F) X I-95 (M)
Tre Butter = Tres Dawg (F) x Butter Skunk (M)
*P1=Super Silver Sour Chem Diesel Haze (Super Silver pheno)
*Butter Skunk= Secret Sour Male
Kamra Genetics Collaborative Crosses
African Dream = JJ's African Haze (F) x WhiteA5haze (M)
Road Dawg = Star Dawg (F) x Biker Kush (M)