Company caught selling tainted marijuana can’t trace source of contamination

TheRealDman

TheRealDman

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itsmehigh said:
There's no way you could know this, this is clearly an "alternative fact". Please state your source that all LP's spray. Fear mongering and disinformation at its worst. Just because you say things over and over doesn't make it true. Your sounding a lot like Trump and the Muslims.

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.......right chicken little?

Itsme
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As of February 1, 2017, there are 13 registered pesticides approved by PMRA for use on cannabis (marijuana) that is produced commercially indoors. They are:

  • Actinovate SP
  • Agrotek Ascend Vaporized Sulphur
  • Bioprotec Caf
  • Bioprotec Plus
  • Botanigard 22 WP
  • Botanigard ES
  • Kopa Insecticidal Soap
  • MilStop Foliar Fungicide
  • Neudosan Commercial
  • Opal Insecticidal Soap
  • Rootshield(R) WP Biological Fungicide
  • Rootshield HC Biological Fungicide Wettable Powder
  • Vegol Crop Oil
Information and labels for the pesticides approved by the PMRA are available in the Pesticides and Pest Management section of the PMRA website.

If licensed producers have questions or concerns regarding pesticides, or would like approval on the use of particular pesticides, they are encouraged to contact PMRA for information.
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These pesticides are approved by Hellth Canaduh. If you don't think ALL LP's are using them to protect their multi-million $ investments, then you're out of touch with reality.
 
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gb123

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itsmehigh said:
Your hilarious, been growing for 40 years, eh? Too fucking funny.....ok chicken little, you win. Show me your garden..

"Oh and it's bigger" not talking about your belly.

Itsme.
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my ass and your head ...either one would have fit better :lol:

OK..... the one thing I do know about grow club is? .........there is no grow club ......


They are plants. They all grow differently, People and climate will see the same plant look completely different.
I grow meds....
I have shown some finished meds here before. Cherry/amber/yellow oil isnt a big deal.
I think I even showed some cheese. Looks like tumble weed. (:

Am I a PRO at Growing? No Sir,,I still learn every day, thankful for it! :weed:

Lost my virginity at 14 ;) lol
 
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CannaReview

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CalyxCrusher said:
So Organiscam continues the bullshit parade:

"Organigram maintains it has never used myclobutanil which is known in the industry as an easy but dangerous shortcut to dealing with outbreaks of mildew that can threaten crops. The company said it believes the banned pesticide may have gotten into its plants through "inputs" in the growing process, such as contaminated fertilizer or soil. In particular, Organigram officials suspect peat moss the company used for a time in 2016 may have been treated with myclobutanil before entering the facility, but the company has no conclusive proof and no longer uses the peat moss."

Yup pesticide laden peat moss which would NEVER had passed QA or sold if that was TRUE........... Sounds like a fucking 8 yr old is making excuses. Fucken clowns, I bet HC is fucking dumb enough to believe that abortion of an excuse
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So they're saying they don't use organic certified grow mediums and fertilizers and are "organic certified"?
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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TheRealDman said:
These pesticides are approved by Hellth Canaduh. If you don't think ALL LP's are using them to protect their multi-million $ investments, then you're out of touch with reality.
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Your just speculating that "all" use poison. The reality is that these approved treatments can be used. Why would you use them if they aren't nessesary? To say that all growers use these products is very misleading. I know for fact that all LP's don't spray. Can you factually say the same that they do? Meanwhile in the grey market growers can use banned products with no repercussions. The only way to know is to grow your own. Period. It's hypocritical to single out LP's from the grey market. That's my point. They are one in the same, same shit different pile.

Itsme.
 
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TheRealDman

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itsmehigh said:
Your just speculating that "all" use poison. The reality is that these approved treatments can be used. Why would you use them if they aren't nessesary? To say that all growers use these products is very misleading. I know for fact that all LP's don't spray. Can you factually say the same that they do? Meanwhile in the grey market growers can use banned products with no repercussions. The only way to know is to grow your own. Period. It's hypocritical to single out LP's from the grey market. That's my point. They are one in the same, same shit different pile.

Itsme.
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I agree that some BM sellers and LP's are the same...ie: no repercussions whatsoever for using banned substances. LP's obviously don't understand IPM, or HC wouldn't need to help them out by allowing pesticides. The list isn't there for shits & giggles...it's there for a reason!
 
dienowk

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itsmehigh said:
No need to spray with a solid IPM program, GMP and sanitation. If an "issue" arises the crop is culled. Simple shit really. Funny how whenever your lies are challenged you attack my abilities. That tells me you can't back up your nonsense, and resort to name calling, what are you 12? Keep on writing cheques with your mouth that your ass can't cash, Son! Let's see your garden......chicken little.

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I would be shocked if any LP culled a crop without HC stepping in and making them, a for profit business is not going to willingly throw away money when they can skirt the rules and at worst get a sternly worded letter if they get caught.
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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gb123 said:
my ass and your head ...either one would have fit better :lol:

Lost my virginity at 14 ;) lol
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Ok, now that makes sense. Cannabis use in teens has been linked to cognitive defects in adolescent brains. Seems to me that 40 years of cannabis use has taken its toll. Weird that 40 years of cannabis use, didn't prevent any of your illnesses.

Itsme.
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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dienowk said:
I would be shocked if any LP culled a crop without HC stepping in and making them, a for profit business is not going to willingly throw away money when they can skirt the rules and at worst get a sternly worded letter if they get caught.
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Any grower worth their salt wouldn't hesitate to cull a sick crop. Prevention is key, it's almost impossible to bring a sick crop back to health. Best to cull and start over again and cut your losses. STAY AWAY FROM LP's who have shareholders, their best interest isn't you. Do your due diligence, choose your source wisely, not all LP's are created equally.

Itsme.
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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TheRealDman said:
I agree that some BM sellers and LP's are the same...ie: no repercussions whatsoever for using banned substances. LP's obviously don't understand IPM, or HC wouldn't need to help them out by allowing pesticides. The list isn't there for shits & giggles...it's there for a reason!
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That can be said for any agriculture crop. What crop doesn't have allowed pesticides/fungicides? Cannabis is no different, shit happens, Mother Nature can be a bitch sometimes.

Itsme.
 
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CannaReview

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TheRealDman said:
I agree that some BM sellers and LP's are the same...ie: no repercussions whatsoever for using banned substances. LP's obviously don't understand IPM, or HC wouldn't need to help them out by allowing pesticides. The list isn't there for shits & giggles...it's there for a reason!
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The black market never agreed to any laws/rules so can't be compared to a government licensed company that is suppose to grow "medical grade. If you have to compare it it would be dispensaries that state they sell medical weed.

I met someone yesterday that if you knew the circles they run with, you'd think they be ok with any pesticide. They told me they only grow weed that goes to real sick people and their product has to be commercial pesticide free. Ended up with potassium bicarbonate to fight PM. So there is some hope for clean weed. If the gov allowed any MMAR/ACMPP person to get their weed tested by lab I'd say over night dispensaries would have 50%+ clean meds as it would open up a new line in the market BUT that would hort the LP's bad over night.
 
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itsmehigh said:
That can be said for any agriculture crop. What crop doesn't have allowed pesticides/fungicides? Cannabis is no different, shit happens, Mother Nature can be a bitch sometimes.

Itsme.
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Except off label use is illegal and any farm caught doing so wouldn't just have their hand slapped like the LP's did.
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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CannaReview said:
The black market never agreed to any laws/rules so can't be compared to a government licensed company that is suppose to grow "medical grade. If you have to compare it it would be dispensaries that state they sell medical weed.

I met someone yesterday that if you knew the circles they run with, you'd think they be ok with any pesticide. They told me they only grow weed that goes to real sick people and their product has to be commercial pesticide free. Ended up with potassium bicarbonate to fight PM. So there is some hope for clean weed. If the gov allowed any MMAR/ACMPP person to get their weed tested by lab I'd say over night dispensaries would have 50%+ clean meds as it would open up a new line in the market BUT that would hort the LP's bad over night.
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Any MMAR/ACMPR patient can get their meds tested. There are 17 labs in Canada that are HC approved.

http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/drugs-products-medicaments-produits/buying-using-achat-utilisation/cannabis-medical/access-acces/personal-production-personnelle/licensed-dealer-testing-analyse-distributeurs-autorises-eng.php

Itsme.
 
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VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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itsmehigh said:
Any grower worth their salt wouldn't hesitate to cull a sick crop
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But they would if their jobs depended on it. If orders are to produce a profitable cash crop or find a new way to feed your kids, they will do what it takes. I don't for a minute believe any of the LP's are following the rules. Self regulation does not work. Profit before patients. Time for Justin to announce legalization plans that include room for independent small scale producers.
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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It would be nice if Hydroponic stores employed ACMPR holders, then the hydro store could submit clients samples to labs for testing by proxy. Just a thought.

Side note. Where do you think growers get their banned products? Hydroponic stores, sell Nova, avid, pyretherins, over/under the counter. They can't buy it without an applicators licence, but MOST Hydro stores have no qualms on selling it to clients, knowing very well what's going on.

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