Chuckers paradise......

GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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v.s one said:
View attachment 3896723 @genuity heres that male I was talking about with the pistils. There on the top right side. Sorry for the shitty pic. You got to zoom in on the fan leaves to see the trics.
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you see, I just killed a female 2 weeks into bloom because I found I couple set of balls on the lowers, if I dont want it on the females I dont want it on the males, you do have a frosty male there but imo no good to breed with.
 
v.s one

v.s one

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GreenSanta said:
you see, I just killed a female 2 weeks into bloom because I found I couple set of balls on the lowers, if I dont want it on the females I dont want it on the males, you do have a frosty male there but imo no good to breed with.
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Yeah I'm still going to store the pollen and hit a small nug. I got the other male in flower now so I will see where both take me. Thanks for the advice.
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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v.s one said:
Yeah I'm still going to store the pollen and hit a small nug. I got the other male in flower now so I will see where both take me. Thanks for the advice.
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I hear ya, never know when you are going to find that special one... most special plants will never be found though, I heard something like only 5% of seeds sold from seedbanks are being grown, most are kept as souvenir. That's how I treat my weirdos, seeds that come from unique weird plants or weird stories with them, I treat them like souvenir, I keep them, but will likely never grow them, I just cant throw them out either lol

I find it hard to resist creating when you have become an addict lol, I have not harvested any pollen for over 4-5 months and today I had to pop some beans because I need to find a male, I ve got some wicked seeds coming in the mail but I couldnt wait, today was the day. However, I am finally starting to understand that there is no point creating marginal stuff that I will likely never grow, I always have several females on the go but I am becoming better at resisting using my pollen on every single female in the grow room. Knowing that most special plants will never have a chance to show tap root, and that they will rot in a seed shell, I am really only starting to understand the importance of a goal in breeding, cough**, I mean pollen chucking.

blablabla, where I am getting at now is that I try to focus my pollen chucking on the few great lines I want to keep working instead of creating too many lines that they all are just end up as souvenirs....
 
rocknratm

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GreenSanta said:
I hear ya, never know when you are going to find that special one... most special plants will never be found though, I heard something like only 5% of seeds sold from seedbanks are being grown, most are kept as souvenir. That's how I treat my weirdos, seeds that come from unique weird plants or weird stories with them, I treat them like souvenir, I keep them, but will likely never grow them, I just cant throw them out either lol

I find it hard to resist creating when you have become an addict lol, I have not harvested any pollen for over 4-5 months and today I had to pop some beans because I need to find a male, I ve got some wicked seeds coming in the mail but I couldnt wait, today was the day. However, I am finally starting to understand that there is no point creating marginal stuff that I will likely never grow, I always have several females on the go but I am becoming better at resisting using my pollen on every single female in the grow room. Knowing that most special plants will never have a chance to show tap root, and that they will rot in a seed shell, I am really only starting to understand the importance of a goal in breeding, cough**, I mean pollen chucking.

blablabla, where I am getting at now is that I try to focus my pollen chucking on the few great lines I want to keep working instead of creating too many lines that they all are just end up as souvenirs....
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heres how I see it, ive said something like this before but here goes.
Im using random males of strains I assume are breed with care by actual breeders. As a pollen chucker, I use whatever male and hit females I have grown and know are dank. So when it comes to running any of my own crosses, the pheno hunt may be quite extensive to find the keeper females. But, I have limited space and run almost none of what I make. I hope im storing them well, and even if its 5 or 10 years down the line if im running a dispensary (if my state ever gets that going) I will start popping them all and doing pheno hunts. The more seeds the better, for all I know my germ rate will be 10% by then. But ill have thousands of seeds to run. So hopefully find at least a few keeper females to start a dispensary with unique strains.

For example, I used a random oregon huckleberry male to hit 2 other strain females I know are dank (I think purple animal kush and euphoric but not positive). Both oregon huckleberry phenos for females I had were dank. Regardless of the male, I assume with enough pheno hunting the offspring will have some fire.
Maybe thats not how it works tho. I could be wrong.
If you were breeding to sell seeds that would be a different story. Obviously breed with the best of what you have, but all winter when its colder im gonna keep my seed tent going to get a stockpile of seeds, even if its with random males.
2c from someone who knows very little about breeding lol
 
GreenSanta

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rocknratm said:
heres how I see it, ive said something like this before but here goes.
Im using random males of strains I assume are breed with care by actual breeders. As a pollen chucker, I use whatever male and hit females I have grown and know are dank. So when it comes to running any of my own crosses, the pheno hunt may be quite extensive to find the keeper females. But, I have limited space and run almost none of what I make. I hope im storing them well, and even if its 5 or 10 years down the line if im running a dispensary (if my state ever gets that going) I will start popping them all and doing pheno hunts. The more seeds the better, for all I know my germ rate will be 10% by then. But ill have thousands of seeds to run. So hopefully find at least a few keeper females to start a dispensary with unique strains.

For example, I used a random oregon huckleberry male to hit 2 other strain females I know are dank (I think purple animal kush and euphoric but not positive). Both oregon huckleberry phenos for females I had were dank. Regardless of the male, I assume with enough pheno hunting the offspring will have some fire.
Maybe thats not how it works tho. I could be wrong.
If you were breeding to sell seeds that would be a different story. Obviously breed with the best of what you have, but all winter when its colder im gonna keep my seed tent going to get a stockpile of seeds, even if its with random males.
2c from someone who knows very little about breeding lol
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''euphoric but not positive'' sounds like a nice strain
 
Moe Flo

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rocknratm said:
heres how I see it, ive said something like this before but here goes.
Im using random males of strains I assume are breed with care by actual breeders. As a pollen chucker, I use whatever male and hit females I have grown and know are dank. So when it comes to running any of my own crosses, the pheno hunt may be quite extensive to find the keeper females. But, I have limited space and run almost none of what I make. I hope im storing them well, and even if its 5 or 10 years down the line if im running a dispensary (if my state ever gets that going) I will start popping them all and doing pheno hunts. The more seeds the better, for all I know my germ rate will be 10% by then. But ill have thousands of seeds to run. So hopefully find at least a few keeper females to start a dispensary with unique strains.

For example, I used a random oregon huckleberry male to hit 2 other strain females I know are dank (I think purple animal kush and euphoric but not positive). Both oregon huckleberry phenos for females I had were dank. Regardless of the male, I assume with enough pheno hunting the offspring will have some fire.
Maybe thats not how it works tho. I could be wrong.
If you were breeding to sell seeds that would be a different story. Obviously breed with the best of what you have, but all winter when its colder im gonna keep my seed tent going to get a stockpile of seeds, even if its with random males.
2c from someone who knows very little about breeding lol
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That's pretty much how I'm doing it myself. I already have tens of thousands of different seed, some crossed and came out fire and some still to be known. The future will tell. Keep on doing it dude.
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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rocknratm said:
heres how I see it, ive said something like this before but here goes.
Im using random males of strains I assume are breed with care by actual breeders. As a pollen chucker, I use whatever male and hit females I have grown and know are dank. So when it comes to running any of my own crosses, the pheno hunt may be quite extensive to find the keeper females. But, I have limited space and run almost none of what I make. I hope im storing them well, and even if its 5 or 10 years down the line if im running a dispensary (if my state ever gets that going) I will start popping them all and doing pheno hunts. The more seeds the better, for all I know my germ rate will be 10% by then. But ill have thousands of seeds to run. So hopefully find at least a few keeper females to start a dispensary with unique strains.

For example, I used a random oregon huckleberry male to hit 2 other strain females I know are dank (I think purple animal kush and euphoric but not positive). Both oregon huckleberry phenos for females I had were dank. Regardless of the male, I assume with enough pheno hunting the offspring will have some fire.
Maybe thats not how it works tho. I could be wrong.
If you were breeding to sell seeds that would be a different story. Obviously breed with the best of what you have, but all winter when its colder im gonna keep my seed tent going to get a stockpile of seeds, even if its with random males.
2c from someone who knows very little about breeding lol
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You never know how long this cornucopia of American Seed banks is going to last for us Americans, with our current administration stepping froggy against us.
I enjoy the security of having thousands of beans of my pollen chucks and a few hundred professionally bred seeds to never go wanting, if the shit hits the fan.
I'm a seed prepper, lol, but it's also pretty enjoyable playing around with pollen and seeing if I can produce something as good or better than the original parents that the professionals created.
 
GreenSanta

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I've said it many times on this thread, we get to a point now where we are working with elite x elite x elite x elite... I mean even if u do a poor job at selecting a random male but u use it on a premium female , u are still getting (elite x elite x elite x elite....) X premium female = mostly killer plants, no matter how great or shitty you are.

One thing that becomes important overtime is epigenetic . So ur own seeds will do better over time in ur environment.
 
Mohican

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Cool thread G!

I was gifted a Black Sour Bubble male that ended up sprouting girl parts.
It had already pollinated a beautiful LA Confidential lady and so I have these seeds in the maybe pile. Doc grew a few out and they looked awesome.

I named them Goodyear Blimp (GYB) in honor of a famous LA Bubble :hump:
 
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