What is GH's KoolBloom powder and liquid nutrients for?

TheChemist77

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ok guys hope you are done killing each other. i have some things i need to ask. i am on the gh nuts micro/ grow and bloom. i am also trying pk starting week 3 through 7 in flower. i was planing to start koolbloom powder in week 7 and 8. can you tell me what if i am doing this wrong. i am watering for 2 min 5 times a day i dont water at night. 2 i change water every week and add new nuts every time. i try to get ppms to 1400. do i only add nuts when i change the water and add no nuts during the week or do i keep my ppms at 1400 thrwout the week by adding more nuts. hope i didnt confuse you lol. oh i have 6 tables and 2 1100 lights on each.with 25 gal res. i go through about 5 gal water every day. i think i am doing well hope to do better. this is the 1st time using kool powder.i want to keep this simple. and i am in now way as good as you guys are. try when you guys are fighting on here to remember that you have guys like me on here trying to learn from you. keep in simple and let us all reap the bens. thanks guys oh by the way near denver dont know if that matters when growing no air here lol. just wondering if i am doing this right. thanks for your help. by the way 77 your stuff looks awesome
thanks for the ego boost,,but theres lots of guys doing way better than me,,and know way more.. 20+years growing and i still learn new stuff from good guys here...
whats your medium? i use rock wool 3x3x3 or 4x4x4 cubes in a flood n drain system.. i flood tyhe table for 15 minutes 3-4 times per day.. u want your medium to contain lots of oxegen,,dont water too much or to often but dont let it dry out either..use powder koolbloom at 1/4 tea spoon per gallon no more its powerfull,,and only the last 2 weeks as it promotes ripening.. plants getting koolbloom finish sooner than plants w/out it.. gh 3 part is good stuff but u need to know your strain to get it dialed in a sativa dom might like a hevier n base,,grow well n be well

what size table? how many plants? sog,scrog? strain? how long do u veg?
you can change your rez every 2 weeks,,every week is too much..u can top off with nutes or w plain water just watch your ph and ppm..1400 in veg or bloom? my veg room gets a ppm of 900 ph of 5.5-6.3 my bloom room i start at a ppm of 1,100 weeks 1-2 weeks 3-4 1,300 weeks 5-6 1,400 week 7 and 8 i add k-bloom 1,570 ppm then i flush with gh kleen for 3-5 days..
 

mod37

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thanks for the ego boost,,but theres lots of guys doing way better than me,,and know way more.. 20+years growing and i still learn new stuff from good guys here...
whats your medium? i use rock wool 3x3x3 or 4x4x4 cubes in a flood n drain system.. i flood tyhe table for 15 minutes 3-4 times per day.. u want your medium to contain lots of oxegen,,dont water too much or to often but dont let it dry out either..use powder koolbloom at 1/4 tea spoon per gallon no more its powerfull,,and only the last 2 weeks as it promotes ripening.. plants getting koolbloom finish sooner than plants w/out it.. gh 3 part is good stuff but u need to know your strain to get it dialed in a sativa dom might like a hevier n base,,grow well n be well

what size table? how many plants? sog,scrog? strain? how long do u veg?
you can change your rez every 2 weeks,,every week is too much..u can top off with nutes or w plain water just watch your ph and ppm..1400 in veg or bloom? my veg room gets a ppm of 900 ph of 5.5-6.3 my bloom room i start at a ppm of 1,100 weeks 1-2 weeks 3-4 1,300 weeks 5-6 1,400 week 7 and 8 i add k-bloom 1,570 ppm then i flush with gh kleen for 3-5 days..
how goes it 77 and
Thanks Hope your day is going well. So I live near Denver and this is my hole plan. I have 5 rooms in my basement,the 1st room is my water room I have a pre to and then I have the to system 3 filter system. I have 4 55 gal drums. Room 2 is my mom and clone room. I have a 66 spray cloner. I have 2 pineapple 2 sweet island skunk 2 northern lights 2 juicy fruit moms. Room 3 is my veg room I have 2 4x8 tables with 4 360 lights. 4 fans and I air can with 1 6 air intake and 6 air exsted. I put 33 on each table. I flood my tables when I feel the plants getting light. I was veg for 4 weeks but I am going to try 3 weeks this time. Plants are getting 2 big and growing into flower lights. I use 25 gal res in veg and flower per table. So room 4 I have 2 4x8 tables with 2 1000 pre table and 4 fans 1 air filter recirculating and room 5 that is connected To room 4 this room I have 4 4x8 tables. With 2 1000 lights on each. With 10 fans and 1 15 in air intake and 1 15 in air out with the big air can hooked to it. I have a drip system hooked to my plants with 2 lines on each block oh buy the way I grow in 6x6 blocks with 4x6 unie slabs. I water for 2 min 5 times a day. I don't water at night my blocks stay pretty moist at night. I use gh guide and it is the recirculate system. I use three part system micro/grow/bloom. And this round I added pk appetite and now I am going to add the powder bloom. I am in week 5 going into week 6 Saturday. I grow to week 8 and flush week 9 I cut 2 tables down every 2 days. The first round came off the 1 of Jan I just moved in last October and I got 18 lbs off 6 tables. The reason I want to use the power is my buds were soft last round but everyone says it smokes good and taste good too I don't smok lol so I don't know. Anyways I think I am on the right track. I think I will build my phone like you do. My ph is the same as yours so I am good their. I like playing around so I think your feeding ppm might be good I was just going to 1400 oh from veg to flower I soak my blocks and and then top feed 1 time then when blocks are light I start dripping. I do soak 6x6 before veg too and top feed 1 time then flood. I guess that's it. If I forgot anything let me know or if you can add anything please feel free to let me know this is my 2 round and I am going into week 6 so I have a week befor I start powder.didnt mean to ramble lol.hope to hear from you soon. Later and thanks bye the way I flood and reuse in veg and I drip and reuse in flower can't remember the terminology lol but their you go.
 
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mod37

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how goes it 77 and
Thanks Hope your day is going well. So I live near Denver and this is my hole plan. I have 5 rooms in my basement,the 1st room is my water room I have a pre to and then I have the to system 3 filter system. I have 4 55 gal drums. Room 2 is my mom and clone room. I have a 66 spray cloner. I have 2 pineapple 2 sweet island skunk 2 northern lights 2 juicy fruit moms. Room 3 is my veg room I have 2 4x8 tables with 4 360 lights. 4 fans and I air can with 1 6 air intake and 6 air exsted. I put 33 on each table. I flood my tables when I feel the plants getting light. I was veg for 4 weeks but I am going to try 3 this time. Plants are getting 2 big and growing into flower lights. I use 25 gal res in veg and flower per table. So room 4 I have 2 4x8 tables with 2 1000 pre table and 4 fans 1 air filter recirculating and room 5 that is connected To room 4 this room I have 4 4x8 tables. With 2 1000 lights on each. With 10 fans and 1 15 in air intake and 1 15 in air out with the big air can hooked to it. I have a drip system hooked to my plants with 2 lines on each block oh buy the way I grow in 6x6 blocks with 4x6 unie slabs. I water for 2 min 5 times a day. I don't water at night my blocks stay pretty moist at night. I use gh guide and it is the recirculate system. I use three part system micro/grow/bloom. And this round I added pk appetite and now I am going to add the powder bloom. I am in week 5 going into week 6 Saturday. I grow to week 8 and flush week 9 I cut 2 tables down every 2 days. The first round came off the 1 of Jan I just moved in last October and I got 18 lbs off 6 tables. The reason I want to use the power is my buds were soft last round but everyone says it smokes good and taste good too I don't smok lol so I don't know. Anyways I think I am on the right track. I think I will build my phone like you do. My ph is the same as yours so I am good their. I like playing around so I think your feeding ppm might be good I was just going to 1400 oh from veg to flower I soak my blocks and and then top feed 1 time then when blocks are light I start dripping. I do soak 6x6 before veg too and top feed 1 time then flood. I guess that's it. If I forgot anything let me know or if you can add anything please feel free to let me know this is my 2 round and I am going into week 6 so I have a week befor I start powder.didnt mean to ramble lol.hope to hear from you soon. Later and thanks
Oh and by the way you say clean my res every 2 weeks and watch my ph and ppm I do that I know how to keep the ph up and down. But how do you keep ppm when I check it it always goes up even when I add water. So if I am at 1400 on Saturday bye the time Monday comes around I have to add 10 gal of water and my ppm is 1500 or more. Oh and I was doing 11 plants per table now I am at 10. And should I be using gh Kleen at flush and why. Thanks bud.
 

Niblixdark

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thanks for the ego boost,,but theres lots of guys doing way better than me,,and know way more.. 20+years growing and i still learn new stuff from good guys here...
whats your medium? i use rock wool 3x3x3 or 4x4x4 cubes in a flood n drain system.. i flood tyhe table for 15 minutes 3-4 times per day.. u want your medium to contain lots of oxegen,,dont water too much or to often but dont let it dry out either..use powder koolbloom at 1/4 tea spoon per gallon no more its powerfull,,and only the last 2 weeks as it promotes ripening.. plants getting koolbloom finish sooner than plants w/out it.. gh 3 part is good stuff but u need to know your strain to get it dialed in a sativa dom might like a hevier n base,,grow well n be well

what size table? how many plants? sog,scrog? strain? how long do u veg?
you can change your rez every 2 weeks,,every week is too much..u can top off with nutes or w plain water just watch your ph and ppm..1400 in veg or bloom? my veg room gets a ppm of 900 ph of 5.5-6.3 my bloom room i start at a ppm of 1,100 weeks 1-2 weeks 3-4 1,300 weeks 5-6 1,400 week 7 and 8 i add k-bloom 1,570 ppm then i flush with gh kleen for 3-5 days..
Sounds like a hungry strain to me lol

I have been using FloraKleen for years in my RDWC and it always results in a much cleaner taste and the burn is always a white ash. When I start to use it the smell in the flower room smells much more clean and aromatic. You literally can smell the difference from using it as you clean the system out over the last period of flowering. It definitely gets out all the salts much quicker and probably much more then regular water.
 
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mod37

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Sounds like a hungry strain to me lol

I have been using FloraKleen for years in my RDWC and it always results in a much cleaner taste and the burn is always a white ash. When I start to use it the smell in the flower room smells much more clean and aromatic. You literally can smell the difference from using it as you clean the system out over the last period of flowering. It definitely gets out all the salts much quicker and probably much more then regular water.
Cool and thanks rk. So in week 9 when I flush I put this in with pure Water do I ppm and watch the levels. Do I clean out and refill after a couple days. What is the best way to clean them out. I know you know what you are talking about because you know of the White ash Lol. Thanks for your help.
 

Niblixdark

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I use it for 5 to 7 days on the last week of flowering. I mix 10ml per gallon with water PH to 5.8 to 6.0 then take it out after 5 days and put fresh water in PH'ed and let that sit for another 2-3 days just plain ph water. Then chop. It works great.
 

mod37

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I use it for 5 to 7 days on the last week of flowering. I mix 10ml per gallon with water PH to 5.8 to 6.0 then take it out after 5 days and put fresh water in PH'ed and let that sit for another 2-3 days just plain ph water. Then chop. It works great.
Thank you. Got me a bottle yesterday and going to try this round. Happy growing.
 

Niblixdark

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Kool Bloom Powder

I use it sometimes and it's a great late late blooming enhancer, but we all know what it really does and why one would want to use it lol .. simply put, this pink powder adds density and compactness to your buds and adds weight. P K boost =

Lead nugs ...
 

Niblixdark

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Thanks rk. That is exactly what I wanted to hear and thought. Going to start next weekend ✌
Just be careful with it, it's strong stuff, especially when added along side your base nutrients. Like playing the devils advocate lol
 

TheChemist77

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big grow you have,,,,i wish i could run like that.. i have a single room (hidden) in my basement the room is 12ftx12ft on 1 side there is a 3ft deep x 7ft closet in there i have a 2x4ft f&d table w/ a 30 gallon rez and a36 site king cloner(100%success w/ clones,,love the aero cloner)..thats my veg area w a 315 watt lec lamp above and a 125watt cfl above cloner.. the eniviroment in the room is set on a thermostat,, with intake and exaughst able to replace the whole rooms air in about 3 minutes,, i keep it set at 78 d f during lights on and 70d f lights off.. my bloom area is 9ftx12ft i have a 4ftx6ft f&d table with a 50 gallon rez, overhead 2 315wattlec pluss 2 100 watt go green citizen cobs 830 watts total and im averaging 1.6 gram per watt,, way better than my best runs w/ hps n mh.. i use gh maxi series,,simple,cheap, and works great..my tankless hot water heater is in my bloom room so i have a water line in room and a drain in the floor so draiuning and filling is quick and easy..all my rez have drains in the bottom and a hose run to drain w/ open shut valves..i mix nutes in a 5 galolon bucket then pour into the rez in 1 5 gal bucket i put in 6 shot glass size scoops of powder maxi fill w/ water and mix pour it in rez then fill with water and let the pump do the mixing..
 

mod37

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Just be careful with it, it's strong stuff, especially when added along side your base nutrients. Like playing the devils advocate lol
Just be careful with it, it's strong stuff, especially when added along side your base nutrients. Like playing the devils advocate lol
So if I use the other 3 micro/ bloom and pk is the 1/2 table spoon per gal going to be too much. And also would you take out the pk now and just go with micro/ bloom and powder for week 7 and 8 thanks.
 

mod37

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big grow you have,,,,i wish i could run like that.. i have a single room (hidden) in my basement the room is 12ftx12ft on 1 side there is a 3ft deep x 7ft closet in there i have a 2x4ft f&d table w/ a 30 gallon rez and a36 site king cloner(100%success w/ clones,,love the aero cloner)..thats my veg area w a 315 watt lec lamp above and a 125watt cfl above cloner.. the eniviroment in the room is set on a thermostat,, with intake and exaughst able to replace the whole rooms air in about 3 minutes,, i keep it set at 78 d f during lights on and 70d f lights off.. my bloom area is 9ftx12ft i have a 4ftx6ft f&d table with a 50 gallon rez, overhead 2 315wattlec pluss 2 100 watt go green citizen cobs 830 watts total and im averaging 1.6 gram per watt,, way better than my best runs w/ hps n mh.. i use gh maxi series,,simple,cheap, and works great..my tankless hot water heater is in my bloom room so i have a water line in room and a drain in the floor so draiuning and filling is quick and easy..all my rez have drains in the bottom and a hose run to drain w/ open shut valves..i mix nutes in a 5 galolon bucket then pour into the rez in 1 5 gal bucket i put in 6 shot glass size scoops of powder maxi fill w/ water and mix pour it in rez then fill with water and let the pump do the mixing..
How gose it 77. Nice and compact and everything seems very efficient for your grow. What is the gh maxi series. And is it better then the gh series I am using what do you think. I am getting about 20 lbs per 6 tables. Hoping for more lol. Have a goodnight. Happy growing.
 

TheChemist77

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How gose it 77. Nice and compact and everything seems very efficient for your grow. What is the gh maxi series. And is it better then the gh series I am using what do you think. I am getting about 20 lbs per 6 tables. Hoping for more lol. Have a goodnight. Happy growing.
general hydroponics maxi is a 1 part grow, 1 part bloom powder nutrient.. it is cheap but in my nutrient testing it gives the best yield per cost of nutrients.. i pay $85.00 for a 16lb container of grow and bloom so $170.00 and it lasts over a year the grow lasts almost 2 years but the bloom i use more of... i have also found that mixing 1 part grow to 2 parts bloom is great for the first 2 weeks in bloom,, going straight from grow in veg to bloom in bloom i got yellowing, adding the grow to bloom in early bloom keeps them nice and healthy,, weeks 3- finish i use bloom alone then kleen for final flush,, it really brings out the fall colors and leaves buds tasting and burning very KLEEN,,LOL...
 

Niblixdark

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general hydroponics maxi is a 1 part grow, 1 part bloom powder nutrient.. it is cheap but in my nutrient testing it gives the best yield per cost of nutrients.. i pay $85.00 for a 16lb container of grow and bloom so $170.00 and it lasts over a year the grow lasts almost 2 years but the bloom i use more of... i have also found that mixing 1 part grow to 2 parts bloom is great for the first 2 weeks in bloom,, going straight from grow in veg to bloom in bloom i got yellowing, adding the grow to bloom in early bloom keeps them nice and healthy,, weeks 3- finish i use bloom alone then kleen for final flush,, it really brings out the fall colors and leaves buds tasting and burning very KLEEN,,LOL...
That's why some people use Cal Mag for the first 2 weeks in transition. 3 weeks for soiless with veg base nutes in flower. Or else the plant will yellow badly with flower nutes.
 
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Niblixdark

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20170306_130214.jpg Here ya go

Tweak it if you want but I grow big trees with this schedule!

Ph 6.0 to 6.3 in vegging

Ph 5.8 to 6.0 flowering but no lower then 5.5 for too long.

Koolbloom last 2 weeks. But adjust your base nutrients so the PPM is not gonna burn them. That is on you. The adjustments!

Week 5 can be used for an extra week before week 6 if your strain is a 9 or 10 week strain.

I use a mid bloom hormone to make the buds grow even bigger (adjust base nutes) but that's my own secret and you'll have to find your own. I can't tell you everything lol
 
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mod37

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general hydroponics maxi is a 1 part grow, 1 part bloom powder nutrient.. it is cheap but in my nutrient testing it gives the best yield per cost of nutrients.. i pay $85.00 for a 16lb container of grow and bloom so $170.00 and it lasts over a year the grow lasts almost 2 years but the bloom i use more of... i have also found that mixing 1 part grow to 2 parts bloom is great for the first 2 weeks in bloom,, going straight from grow in veg to bloom in bloom i got yellowing, adding the grow to bloom in early bloom keeps them nice and healthy,, weeks 3- finish i use bloom alone then kleen for final flush,, it really brings out the fall colors and leaves buds tasting and burning very KLEEN,,LOL...
Hum so you only use powder you don't use liquid at all. Hum. Well I guess I am going to go were I get my nuts and ask them to show me what you are buying. Hay got another q. How many weeks do you have your plants in veg. I have been going 4 weeks and thy get way to tall and then when I put them in flower thy grow in the lights by week 3-4. And this one. So when I do water changes I put 25 gal water and then add nuts then I ph and ppm my ph is at 56-57and ppm is around 1275-1350 then by Monday oh sorry I do water changes on Saturday. So on Monday I put water level at 25 again thy usually drink about 10 gal and some may only drink 7 gal anyways when I ppm it again it gose upto 1400-1500 and ph 57-58 I water again on wen about 10 gal again the ppm gose higher and some tables thy don't go up that high and then I change water again on sat. What I am asking is how do you get the ppm down to 1400 again. And am I sapost to raise the ppm on the tables that the ppm is not at 1400 or so. It can get confusing at times on what I should be doing. Thanks 77 for your help. Happy growing.✌
 

mod37

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View attachment 3900809 Here ya go

Tweak it if you want but I grow big trees with this schedule!

Ph 6.0 to 6.3 in vegging

Ph 5.8 to 6.0 flowering but no lower then 5.5 for too long.

Koolbloom last 2 weeks. But adjust your base nutrients so the PPM is not gonna burn them. That is on you. The adjustments!

Week 5 can be used for an extra week before week 6 if your strain is a 9 or 10 week strain.

I use a mid bloom hormone to make the buds grow even bigger (adjust base nutes) but that's my own secret and you'll have to find your own. I can't tell you everything lol
So you only veg for 3 weeks and
View attachment 3900809 Here ya go

Tweak it if you want but I grow big trees with this schedule!

Ph 6.0 to 6.3 in vegging

Ph 5.8 to 6.0 flowering but no lower then 5.5 for too long.

Koolbloom last 2 weeks. But adjust your base nutrients so the PPM is not gonna burn them. That is on you. The adjustments!

Week 5 can be used for an extra week before week 6 if your strain is a 9 or 10 week strain.

I use a mid bloom hormone to make the buds grow even bigger (adjust base nutes) but that's my own secret and you'll have to find your own. I can't tell you everything lol
View attachment 3900809 Here ya go

Tweak it if you want but I grow big trees with this schedule!

Ph 6.0 to 6.3 in vegging

Ph 5.8 to 6.0 flowering but no lower then 5.5 for too long.

Koolbloom last 2 weeks. But adjust your base nutrients so the PPM is not gonna burn them. That is on you. The adjustments!

Week 5 can be used for an extra week before week 6 if your strain is a 9 or 10 week strain.

I use a mid bloom hormone to make the buds grow even bigger (adjust base nutes) but that's my own secret and you'll have to find your own. I can't tell you everything lol
So you only veg for 3 weeks and flower for 6 then flush. Boy I am way longer lol. Might be my problem. And hay I live in Colorado no way am I any competition so what you tell me is our Secret I am just trying to grow the sexiest dam trees I can and with all of your help. I might just get their. Thanks for the schedule. Same stuff I use but not as much ml. Think I am going to try next round. I am in week 6 now I am going to week 8 then flush. So hay if you had a 25 gal res how much of each would you put in then in week 6 how much bloom would you add. Do you stop using liquid bloom and only use powder. Thanks for your help. Happy growing.
 
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