racerboy71
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i looked again, this time blown up, definitely a hermie..
Hermie?
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drewby
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those are buds on the very top iit looks like it develop hermie traits on a plant,,,sorry it generally happens 4-6 weeks in flower been my xp ,not always but most times ,,and you will see the pollen sacks every place there is a limb coming off,,you will get a single ball that will open and 2 hairs will show if it is a female ,,if a male it will get a couple to many little balls on the side of the plant,I gave some pics below not to question what you know,but i do not know what you know ,so gave some visual aids just incase mate,,I have had plants go hermie ,,if the original parent had been flowered buy a hermie it will make female seeds but as it was bread from another female but may carry on the parent hermie trait,,,Sometimes it just happens in nature ,,they want to live and find a way or sometime can be a light leak or other issue to much N at the wrong time,,but if it occur just pic the bananas off when you find them and grow on,,I use hemo's put them in a tub or bowl and remove them from the area dispose,,I had it happen a grow back only had maybe 20 seeds I pick them off if a pollination happens the plant is very single minded,,It wants to make buds or seeds,so if it is budding and gets pollinated you need to pick the seeds off to keep the nutrients headed to the buds or it will devote much energy to seed production instead of yield but no worries if it does happen,,They look like females to me if you see clusters on a node that will for sure be a branch or limb developing male glands,,just grow on mate will be fine,cheers
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Kingrow1
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Ive looked at a blown up pic just now but dont see it, certainly a lot of pistils but i just canbt make out the balls....i looked again, this time blown up, definitely a hermie..
macsnax
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So I've picked 3 pollen sacks this weekend and I was so busy I forgot to take pics until the last one after I started to pull on it. But the new ones I'm finding aren't coming back at a rapid rate. I will keep posting pics every few days to see how thus turns out. I've also adjusted humidity from 60s to 40s and temps from 84 to 72 because I've heard females like it cooler than males, and in turn encourage the plant to flower instead of self pollinate. Not sure how much truth there is to it but the plant looks happy...
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macsnax
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Side note.... It went from the first pic to the second pic in 24 hours. Notice the Black Dominas in the back, not drooping. I've looked a bit online and can't really find a deficiency that matches. The clawing has been there a while. I fed Humboldts Secret base a 4-0-1 at 1/4 strength the weeks ago and there was still more than plenty of nutrients in my soil after a month. I stopped using it and am now using the base b 1-4-2 with flower stacker and root enzymes fit the second week in a row. They were last fed saturday and I'm not sure what's going on, but am sure this kind of stress isn't good for me.
The bottom pic was supposed to be the second.
The bottom pic was supposed to be the second.
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thenotsoesoteric
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There is nothing to disagree about. It's a hermie if you can't find Waldo that's on you but he's definitely in the OP's second post with pics. After you've had a hermie bust all over your hard work, you'll learn how to spot them real quick. CheersI disagree its a hermie, couple weird growths but looks 99.9% female to me so far.
Im sorry to disagree but i cant see it yet
thenotsoesoteric
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If those plants are throwing off that many male flowers, it will only get worse from here. If you don't mind seeded weed you'll be fine finishing flowering those girls but if you plan on selling/donating it, you might not be happy with the end results.
I had a plant go hermie on me when I first started growing, I never even seen the male flowers responsible, and all that weed got seeded really bad. Like a thousand seeds out of a QP, lol. Lost a lot of weight too.
ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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Lol its definitely hermie.I disagree its a hermie, couple weird growths but looks 99.9% female to me so far.
Im sorry to disagree but i cant see it yet
I say cut it down. Balls are growing Way too early to try and save it. Maybe if you were week 7 flower and got balls you could save it, but your going to have seeds everywhere. Picking the sacks can spread pollen too
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ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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Balls
Kingrow1
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Ya balls but ive yet to see piss yellow pollen stains, surely the balls shouldnt just stay as balls and develop into bannanas.
Lastly its like this crazy thing that one ball equals a hermie, fuck me mate the plant is covered in pistils but its due a chop because of one ball that hasnt even made any pollen.
Yes i know what you lot are saying but i disagree with your whole idea that this is a hermie because you see somthing round, wheres the rest of the biology lesson, wheres all the pollen and yellow nannas, why is it heavily turning female but apparently this is a bad hermie.
Show me more than just one trumped up picture of a round thing that isnt even doing what a male flower should have.
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ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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That plant is hardly a few weeks into flower, if it is already putting out balls, bananas are sure to follow
Kingrow1
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Dude i see 99% female flowers and like 1% weird growth that although roundish isnt that atypically male or developing into much of anything. When people zoom in do they not see a ton of pistils like everywhere...
ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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Thats what a hermie is, female plant, turns male. Starts slow, but over time more will grow.
drewby
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Just adding this as I went threw something similar,for me the yellowing and dropping was a lack of N,,I say that because the leaves will start to turn yellow and drop look like it needs water ,In my case it was few clones and the mother plant of mine Bruce lee,After flower I took my clones from the Bruce lee plant and put it back into veg,in my case bruce lee started yellowing the leaves got very light in color,This I assumed was a result of when I was ending flower my plants had been flushed and getting nothing but water and as it was revegging i was not giving it nutrients right away and it got deficiency, It was like all the green color was leaving the plant and becoming much more pale or lighter shade like a lizard changing color, I was able to see it in 2 clones as well,,I decided it was N,because N stimulates the production of Chlorophyll ,, Chlorophyll is what makes or gives the plant it's green color the more it produces the darker the leaves will get and the more light they attract as a darker color will take on more warmth and light,So Nitrogen intake will basically dictate or play a role in the green ness of the plant to a degree,just like if you have been giving way to much N the leaves become very dark green and curl under at the tip which is what we call crow's claw or N toxicity,I will take a picture of my Bruce lee plant it should still have some leaves where you can see it recovering or the leaves have started turning a darker green for me since I started giving it some feed it straightened mine out ,I started with light dose and been building them up but it fixed my green issue ,Or it is what was causing mine best I could figure as I could not find any other deficiency ,Note the pics or of my bruce lee plant the leaves went a very pale green before I caught it and corrected you can see the leaves that have already turned back a good dark green and you can see the others still turning dark green second pic you can see it good,But if you have yellowing and dropping may be something to think on,
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Kingrow1
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Probably just feed her up a bit but thats where a good feed schedule should have you covered
macsnax
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So... I haven't found a pollen sack in 10 days maybe two weeks, something like that. This is the second time I've found whatever is in the pic, just up and left of the pistils by that node. Are these bananas? I thought I needed to look for those coming out of the buds themselves? I picked them the first time, should I get rid of this growth?