Taking a while for buds to form ?

[Jon021781]

Hello i am currently in the 4th week of flowering and i havent seen any real bud production i they are micros i just dropped from 12/12 to 11/13 to see if it could help. The colas are prominent but she just keeps growing fan leaves so i trim her up so the the bud points get light and they create another cola i mean thats great but im really getting confused i fed them today with some standered bloom feed mostly. P and same on N and K so that should help her a bit but im just hoping she buds sooner then later cuz i my landlord is against it so it was suppose to be a quick grow that i started mid December. I figure whole plant clean pics so you can zoom in anywhere would be.best. up close she does sparkle a little ans through a 6x mag you can see little diamond like crystals on the leaves and pistile or whatever

 

[backtracker]

stop pinching the growth off them that is what they use to produce the energy to flower.

 

[hellmutt bones]

Mutant or completely stressed..

 

[Lucky Luke]

Whatever advice you got during your grow and you agreed to it and did it? Do the opposite Be nice if it had some leaves wouldn't it?..lol.

 

[majins]

Stressed as hell.
Stunted from all the leafs being plucked off. (Looking at size of the stalk it should be massive if it wasnt stunted)
Not enough light. (Twisted growth is because im guessing you have a single low power light)

 

[Zombie brains]

Wtf! My advice, start again and until you've taken the time to learn some more just let the plant do what it wants naturally. Fan leaves should never be hacked off in my humble opinion, they are what processes the light and stores all the goodness. I only ever take mine off if they fall off with a little wiggle meaning they've done there job. If you think there blocking to much light then tie them down a bit.

 

[Antgotaclue]

What the fuck have ya done to them hahaha sorry but iv never seen out like it. Bin the lot and read up a bit more b4 you try agen clearly you have done no research in to it but that's just my thoughts

 

[chemphlegm]

light? dont worry about those crystals, the plant is failing, the stress will be traded for experience. needs more light, needs to be healthy before flowering is initiated, foolish defoliate this way as you see.

 

[Jon021781]

Yeah unfortunately i took the advice from someone who didnt know what they where talking about i guess with the fan leaves i put her under 24hrs of light for a few days gave her some N and P to help produce new fan leaves and get her back idk she seems strong enough to not die but it might take a while to get her mature again at one point she had nice orange hairs coming from the pistiles and i had read thats when flowering should start and i was talking to my friend who insisted that their was too many fan leaves so she did show her sex and i am noticeing today she has another internode that is alot shorter then it was before and i noticed that it starting to resemble a cola i was confused about the life cycle i guess i was missing the part between veg and flower where the colas start forming but before actual bud production and i think thats where she was suppose to be and yeah i can definitely need another 100w or so in the box or atleast make it reflective. I also added a fan yesterday i didnt have it hooked up cuz it kept falling off but i have it secured now hopefully by not touching her and letting her just go i can get some harvest out of her im guessing maybe an 8th if im lucky i kinda wish i didnt listen to him and just let them grow naturally with one or two fim and thats it that was how my last grow went but i had alot of popcorn buds that time so my friend said it would help so i handed him my clippers and said sure if you know what ur doing and i guess not because im thinking it shocked the stretch out of her so it was pushed back a few weeks in development. Im just hoping that it fixes her self like i said ill be happy with an 8th i just enjoy the grow itself i just tried.something new and it didnt work like he thought it would i did some research about it today and i guess it can help but i think he went a little crazy and did too much

 

[Jon021781]

Yeah unfortunately i took the advice from someone who didnt know what they where talking about i guess with the fan leaves i put her under 24hrs of light for a few days gave her some N and P to help produce new fan leaves and get her back idk she seems strong enough to not die but it might take a while to get her mature again at one point she had nice orange hairs coming from the pistiles and i had read thats when flowering should start and i was talking to my friend who insisted that their was too many fan leaves so she did show her sex and i am noticeing today she has another internode that is alot shorter then it was before and i noticed that it starting to resemble a cola i was confused about the life cycle i guess i was missing the part between veg and flower where the colas start forming but before actual bud production and i think thats where she was suppose to be and yeah i can definitely need another 100w or so in the box or atleast make it reflective. I also added a fan yesterday i didnt have it hooked up cuz it kept falling off but i have it secured now hopefully by not touching her and letting her just go i can get some harvest out of her im guessing maybe an 8th if im lucky i kinda wish i didnt listen to him and just let them grow naturally with one or two fim and thats it that was how my last grow went but i had alot of popcorn buds that time so my friend said it would help so i handed him my clippers and said sure if you know what ur doing and i guess not because im thinking it shocked the stretch out of her so it was pushed back a few weeks in development. Im just hoping that it fixes her self like i said ill be happy with an 8th i just enjoy the grow itself i just tried.something new and it didnt work like he thought it would i did some research about it today and i guess it can help but i think he went a little crazy and did too much

Ps that isnt in the grow box that why you dont see lights im running 900-1000w total. I have an almost even mix of kelvin cfls but i think i need to lower them closer to the plant im just scared of them getting to close

 

[BudmanTX]

 

[Jon021781]

Mutant or completely stressed..

Yeah someone else mentioned that the phenom looks F'ed which makes sence cuz the seeds i used where 3 yrs old i have no clue what they are i just remembered that i had about 100 in a draw in my basement i put them in a jar of water for 3 days ones that sprouted about 15 of them took out the picked 6 of the best looking once 2 ended up being male and 4 were female and they are in a single long pot that is seperated in the soil itself i just didnt have a big enough pot when i noticed they pushed all the soil out and it was mostly roots so i had to move them and they took to that pot very well actually

 

[*BUDS]

Got enough pics there ? You took a thousand pics of the ugly little thing and made us look at them.
Where is the rest of the plant?

 

[Tangerine_]

I'm not tryin to be an ass but how did you manage to get a stalk to that size, keep it green, and decide to mutilate it? Then, make an acct, start a thread with long replies and numerous pics - yet never bother to look at the countless grow journals here and online that document every detail of a grow from seed to finish...at any given time? Honestly asking. Look at your plant. Have you ever seen a cannabis plant that looked like that? In any stage of growth? I cant help but feel like you're yankin chains here. I'm prob. wrong but damn...I've chopped up plants for the compost pile that didn't look that mangled.
At this point the only advice I can give - do some research and start over. You could attempt to pull clones but you've disrupted the light schedule so much that it would just be quicker to start new seeds. GL

 

[FruitSpirit]

Holy jesus......no words! Buy a grow book for the basics, show willing for the basics at leasy and then the experienced guys on here will happily share their knowledge. I am thinking this is a piss take. Your friend is a buffoon....

 

[Antgotaclue]

It's funny tho pmsl

 

[Orlando737]

Not trying to rub salt into the wounds, my friend but rather than rely on the vague advice of your 'bud', no pun intended, you should read up on here some of the excellent advice given by some growers here?.
If you check up on the Grow journals on here, step by step progress of grows are often accompanied with the pics of the plant at that given stage.
Type in 'defoliation' in the search box and see all the lively and often belligerent 'debate' that subject arouses.
Just trying to give you some sound advice before you start your next and hopefully successful grow.
Read up on this section too, without worrying yourself that yours has the same 'symptoms' and start acting on it !.
Best of luck, have a better grow next time, mate.....!