Ttystikk's vertical goodness

[ttystikk]

Damn Ty you are second person I've heard that happen to in a med state at that. Seems like they are trying to start that war against, main reason I fell all the way back especially after dude said he was going after ppl when that new head said what he said few weeks ago about being hard of weed comparing it to heroine which you can't compare. Just goes to show they not off the bs. I sincerely hope you beat this case.

That makes two of us. The silver lining is that getting my day in court also means being able to set precedent and push back against the ongoing crush of legislation aimed at crushing our right to grow our medicine unmolested.

 

[420producer]

They told me it was my high power bill.[/QUO

PM me the deets and I'll be there.

Vertical improves yield vs space and labor, not power.

ok .ill see if i can get more tickets.

 

[ttystikk]

ok .ill see if i can get more tickets.

Awesome! I totally want to go-

 

[Michiganjesse]

Subcool dropped a line in his youtube stream last night that one of the growers on the grow tube round channel was busted. He is going to start a legsal defense fund raiser.

He didn't mention the name, but at least 2 growers are from CO (Medgrower1 and Pedro/Dizzy). Doesn't matter which one it is, I wouldn't want to see any of them go through this.

Lots of raids popping up in legal states. Several in MI recently. Not enough info to get details, but its going on all over.

Michigan too for sure northern counties mostly but they hit the THC expo last Saturday good thing I was working. Installing electrical service to a house and Garage for lighting requirements

 

[Jaybodankly]

How many Watts were you using? Curious what the number is to tip off the popo.

 

[ttystikk]

How many Watts were you using? Curious what the number is to tip off the popo.

Lots lol. But weed is legal and they don't have a quota, so fuck 'em.

 

[BarnBuster]

Curious what the number is to tip off the popo.

I would imagine you'd come under scrutiny of the utility company first if your current consumption was xx% higher than your neighbor's/block/division, or your previous useage. That might trigger a letter from them requesting an inspection as a safety concern rather than them automatically assuming you're growing. But, if LE is already looking at you, then...

 

[ttystikk]

I would imagine you'd come under scrutiny of the utility company first if your current consumption was xx% higher than your neighbor's/block/division, or your previous useage. That might trigger a letter from them requesting an inspection as a safety concern rather than them automatically assuming you're growing. But, if LE is already looking at you, then...

Bottom line is that a high power bill by itself is not probable cause. We the People need to take our country back from the fascists and enforce our constitutional rights.

 

[gr865]

I would imagine you'd come under scrutiny of the utility company first if your current consumption was xx% higher than your neighbor's/block/division, or your previous useage. That might trigger a letter from them requesting an inspection as a safety concern rather than them automatically assuming you're growing. But, if LE is already looking at you, then...

And the utility co is going to just say oh he is using too much elect. Let's have him cut back to what his neighbor is doing. That would be really dumb on their part.
My elect bill is always 30 to 50% over what my neighbors are, i get a report from my elect co weekly on my usage. I don't worry about it. I do not believe they would cut their nose of to spite their face.
That being said, I don't run 1000's of Watts of lights and power.
But he is in CO, so I would think that is a common thing for the power co's.

 

[ttystikk]

All this over A HARMLESS PLANT.

Surely there something more important for our tax supported law enforcement do be doing?

 

[greg nr]

Imagine if you ran an electric kiln all day. 100 kw a day. Somehow, I've never heard of a a glassblower or ceramic studio getting visited.

 

[ttystikk]

Imagine if you ran an electric kiln all day. 100 kw a day. Somehow, I've never heard of a a glassblower or ceramic studio getting visited.

Actually, it happens. Home based server farms are also regularly raided, lol

Respect for our constitutional rights has never been lower. If they only respect them when they feel like it, WE DON'T HAVE THEM.

 

[Walterwhiter]

 

[ttystikk]

Rage is fine.

Organizing and voting is even more effective.

 

[ttystikk]

@canadiankushman this is the best place to discuss the lighting you asked me about.

The Philips 860W CDM lamps are the same tech as 315W CMH. The 315W lamp has gained a lot of popularity recently because of whichever improvements. The efficiency difference is entirely in the ballast.

First, don't be fooled by the 860W moniker; a magnetic ballast running on 208V will deliver that wattage and the lamp will happily run on it. However, most people run 240V single phase or 277V three phase and with those inputs the standard magnetic ballast will output 1000W, and the lamp runs fine on it.

Magnetic ballasts run at the standard alternating current (AC) line frequency of 60Hz. This is why they're necessary for this lamp, because it won't run on high frequency digital ballasts. These will not drive the lamp to its maximum efficiency but will still give good results.

To get maximum efficiency with these or any other HID lamp, one needs to use a square wave ballast. It's this square wave output that's the efficiency secret of the 315W system.

There are a few low frequency square wave ballasts that output 1000W, including the Hortilux Platinum and the BadAss ballasts. Both of these are now out of production, although I've managed to scrounge a couple BadAss ballasts. They work great!

One last consideration about the 860W Philips lamp; it must be operated in a vertical orientation, either base up or down. For this reason I felt it was an ideal lamp for vertical gardening and I ran them in vertical socket bare lamp fixture.

Because I'm working to improve performance and efficiency in indoor gardening, I've since moved on to LED lighting of my own design. I'm now looking to sell my inventory of both of the above lamps, if you or anyone is interested.

I'd recommend these lamps as a way to provide high quality results with reasonable yields and as such is an excellent stepping stone on the way to much more expensive LED lighting.

There you have it; far more than you ever wanted to know about a light bulb!

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

i've been considering vertical since i first saw your set up. i know you're using overhead QB now as an experiment. i also know you're familiar with the QB my friend and i have been experimenting with. i wanted your opinion on an idea.
i'm thinking about a quantum column, a 4 foot tall square tube QB with fans mounted in the center blowing upwards, and using it in the center of a 4x4 tent with 5 plants on vertical trellises around it.....
am i insane? the doctors say so, but who listens to them?
what do you think?
i'm using a 600 watt hps in the same tent now, and can only fit 4 plants in it at a time, growing conventionally.

 

[gr865]

i've been considering vertical since i first saw your set up. i know you're using overhead QB now as an experiment. i also know you're familiar with the QB my friend and i have been experimenting with. i wanted your opinion on an idea.
i'm thinking about a quantum column, a 4 foot tall square tube QB with fans mounted in the center blowing upwards, and using it in the center of a 4x4 tent with 5 plants on vertical trellises around it.....
am i insane? the doctors say so, but who listens to them?
what do you think?
i'm using a 600 watt hps in the same tent now, and can only fit 4 plants in it at a time, growing conventionally.

I am unsure what QB led lighting looks like in a cannabis grow.
I am in a 4x4 and running 5 plant vertical screens, did it with a 400W hps but have switched lights and when this grow finishes I will be running stacked bulbs. Upper light will be a 315W CMH and the lower light will be a 400W HPS, unless I can get another 315W before I start that grow.
Here is how it will set up for the stacked lighting.
This is the stand for the 400W sitting over the fan, it is height adjustable.

This is the set up without the 315W, screen are moveable from 15" to around 22" from the lights. each screen is 22x40 inches with an overall height of 54" I am hoping that I will not have a heat problem, I did not have any problem with heat in my fall grow so don't expect any.


This may be useless info, I hope not.
Can you please explain QB LED lighting?

GR

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

basically its cobs all pulled apart and set in rows to cast light from multiple angles so the plants get very good penetration...https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-with-quantum-boards.927159/page-155#post-13446084
https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-with-quantum-boards.927159/page-155#post-13446084
start there and then look in the led forums if you're still interested

 

[ttystikk]

i've been considering vertical since i first saw your set up. i know you're using overhead QB now as an experiment. i also know you're familiar with the QB my friend and i have been experimenting with. i wanted your opinion on an idea.
i'm thinking about a quantum column, a 4 foot tall square tube QB with fans mounted in the center blowing upwards, and using it in the center of a 4x4 tent with 5 plants on vertical trellises around it.....
am i insane? the doctors say so, but who listens to them?
what do you think?
i'm using a 600 watt hps in the same tent now, and can only fit 4 plants in it at a time, growing conventionally.

I see no reason this wouldn't work.

 

[canadiankushman]

@canadiankushman this is the best place to discuss the lighting you asked me about.

The Philips 860W CDM lamps are the same tech as 315W CMH. The 315W lamp has gained a lot of popularity recently because of whichever improvements. The efficiency difference is entirely in the ballast.

First, don't be fooled by the 860W moniker; a magnetic ballast running on 208V will deliver that wattage and the lamp will happily run on it. However, most people run 240V single phase or 277V three phase and with those inputs the standard magnetic ballast will output 1000W, and the lamp runs fine on it.

Magnetic ballasts run at the standard alternating current (AC) line frequency of 60Hz. This is why they're necessary for this lamp, because it won't run on high frequency digital ballasts. These will not drive the lamp to its maximum efficiency but will still give good results.

To get maximum efficiency with these or any other HID lamp, one needs to use a square wave ballast. It's this square wave output that's the efficiency secret of the 315W system.

There are a few low frequency square wave ballasts that output 1000W, including the Hortilux Platinum and the BadAss ballasts. Both of these are now out of production, although I've managed to scrounge a couple BadAss ballasts. They work great!

One last consideration about the 860W Philips lamp; it must be operated in a vertical orientation, either base up or down. For this reason I felt it was an ideal lamp for vertical gardening and I ran them in vertical socket bare lamp fixture.

Because I'm working to improve performance and efficiency in indoor gardening, I've since moved on to LED lighting of my own design. I'm now looking to sell my inventory of both of the above lamps, if you or anyone is interested.

I'd recommend these lamps as a way to provide high quality results with reasonable yields and as such is an excellent stepping stone on the way to much more expensive LED lighting.

There you have it; far more than you ever wanted to know about a light bulb!

How many ballasts do you have?

I am prepping to do a "two isle" stadium style grow in an 11x12 space.

I originally planned to light this with cobs (Vero 29's or 3590's) but it's not looking like I will get them in time to build them all so I am now leaning towards hps or these 860's.