Dr.Nick Riviera
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are you pressing fresh buds? do you pre heat your press?
Mr rosin
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Pulpit_
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What's the verdict ?
TheRealDman
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I think you're a bit confused with terminology bro. Squishing flowers gives you Rosin, not shatter. Rosin will never be the consistency of shatter. Shatter comes from the buds/trim being processed with solvents (usually butane), and then vac purged to remove the butane (usually a 96hr purge).
GrowRock
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Thanks bro I am totally new to the concentrate game unless you count bubble hash or ISO. So vac purge at what psi for 96 hours will turn it to shat? Also I was watching lots of videos of people pressing and collecting it online and it seems to stick to itself by folding the parchement this mess is oil and does not stick to itself even frozen?
Dr.Nick Riviera
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sounds like to much moisture in the bud still, let it sit out and dry and see if it turns more like cake batter,if so, that means it was to wet
CannaReview
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Its still on the front seat of my truck unopened lol, just haven't had time but I got like 3+lb of kief to test it on lol.
Pulpit_
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Are you also using rosin bags ?
Pulpit_
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3 lbs ? wow, you will be busy for months ! let us know how it turns out.
GrowRock
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No I am just pressing approx 5 grams into a little puck and pressing.
CannaReview
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Yah someone said, you want this? I looked around suuuuuuure, scoop.
CalyxCrusher
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The RH of your bud is low. Needs to be around 70%
GrowRock
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I have to dry hanging in my flowering room which I keep at 40 to 45 % rh for trich production. I really need to build a dryer box with charcoal filter
CalyxCrusher
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40-45 is still doable, your yields will suffer though. 40 being the absolute lowest you should go
Bubba's girl
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I have some stuff that's coming out super sappy too. I use the vac chamber to make it workable. Start at 80 degrees F and 4 hours in the vac chamber, check it to see if it can be picked up with a dabber, if not leave it and keep checking every now and then til ready (should be ready within 24 hours)....or you can just wait about a week on it. But since you're new to this I assume you have no vac chamber and pump? So you may have to wait a bit on that...
unless you are using Nbutane and purging SHAT for days in a vac oven..or winterizing it..
its not worth smoking or ingesting ..
fucken shit in tane is nasty nasty stuff and takes a bit of careful work to get rid of..
If you have ever done a dry run in a closed loop without a trap using reg can tane...and seen what you end up with???
shock: mystery oil ,,,,, 
easier to make and purge ISO for med purposes
just sayin.
Mystery Oil Revealed
Canned Butane "Free Blast"
This is an example of a typical 'Lighter-Refill Can' BHO "BLAST" extraction.
However, it is being done through an EMPTY and STERILE borosilicate tube into a STERILE 304SS NSF collection vessel.
I released 49 cans of Newport's "Near Zero Impurities" through the empty chamber and then evaporated at 120*f. After 4 hrs at 120*f I observed a relatively thick coating of oil with a 'new-tire' odor.
I then video recorded the vessel having a 50th can blasted into it. You can see the 'Mystery Oil' separate as the butane hits the oils that are in the vessel.
The oil was then placed under vacuum at -29.9hg at 140*f for 25hrs; the oil did not evaporate (see other posts for further details on the 'purge').
NOTE: This oil was found while loading/recovering closed-loop through filters--ss 50micron and coffee. I did not use filters and ran as an open "BLAST" for video purposes.
This 'Mystery Oil' is at Steep HIll Halent Laboratories with the hope that they will be able to identify and then test for it in your BHO.
I've tested 8 brands in this manner and all 8 produce the same oil; Vector, Newport, Power5, Colibri, Xikar, FasFil, Lucienne, Magnum 5x.
I would like those who use --and more importantly-- those who produce BHO with cans, to see this. Please, share.
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Mysteryoil.org is working to learn and understand what is in "Lighter Refill" cans of butane that are commonly used in open air, solvent extractions of cannabis. This practice is known as "Blasting" and may be potentially adding a "Mystery Oil" to the concentration of cannabis oils (known as BHO) being made in this manner. Our goal is to educate the public (CA-215 patients in particular) and help the Medical Marijuana community develop testing standards to help screen Butane Honey Oil (BHO) for these potential contaminants.
(Please note that with a closed loop system and the proper education you can clean your butane of this oil, and Clean, "Mystery Oil" Free, BHOcan be obtained.)
The History of the Mystery...
Mystery Oil was discovered while building a closed loop system and learning to recover hydrocarbons in it without cannabis material. I used 6 Newport cans in my initial attempt; and upon breaking the unit down, noticed a light oil in the collection vessel. The oil surprised me. I sterilized the vessel and other components thinking it was the Stainless Steel or some error I had made and tried again; same oil. I then ran open cans into Pyrex; same oil. Ran cold cans; same oil. Ran can to only half empty; same oil. Ran filters (coffee, carbon); same oil. Tried 9 different brands (Newport, Vector, Colibri, Xikar, Lucienne, Power5, Magnum, FasFil, Turbo Power; all the same oil. (although, some were more waxy than others)
Once I was convinced I was not going to collect the oil with simple filtration techniques and that it was not coming from the stainless steel equipment, I decided to begin running larger numbers of cans to try and gauge the amount of oil in each can, as well as gather enough weight for a lab to identify it. I collected 2.45g (.030/can) of MO from 79 cans of Newport and 1.45g (.024g/can) of MO from 60 cans of Vector.
Knowing that "open blasts" were commonplace, and upon collecting what I see as a fairly large amount of oil per can, I decided to begin sharing the findings with family and friends who use BHO. And it was those individuals who, upon watching the videos or experiencing the oil in person, requested the Mystery Oil page start.
Currently, the Mystery Oil from Vector and Newport are with multiple laboratories and are being run through various MC/GS and HPLC analysis.
This oil's IDENTITY is NOT YET KNOWN (other than it is petroleum based).
Its PPM level within BHO is NOT YET KNOWN.
Therefore, whether or not this oil poses a HEALTH THREAT to BHO users, is NOT YET KNOWN.
The goal is to 1. identify the oil 2. determine its toxicity/danger and then 3. establish a 'standard' for the Mystery Oil that will allow labs to test for its presence in BHO.
We are Ca Prop215 patients who grow their own flowers, extract their own BHO, and medicate daily.
facebook.com/mysteryoil
its not worth smoking or ingesting ..
fucken shit in tane is nasty nasty stuff and takes a bit of careful work to get rid of..
If you have ever done a dry run in a closed loop without a trap using reg can tane...and seen what you end up with???
shock: mystery oil ,,,,, easier to make and purge ISO for med purposes
just sayin.
Mystery Oil Revealed
Canned Butane "Free Blast"
This is an example of a typical 'Lighter-Refill Can' BHO "BLAST" extraction.
However, it is being done through an EMPTY and STERILE borosilicate tube into a STERILE 304SS NSF collection vessel.I released 49 cans of Newport's "Near Zero Impurities" through the empty chamber and then evaporated at 120*f. After 4 hrs at 120*f I observed a relatively thick coating of oil with a 'new-tire' odor.
I then video recorded the vessel having a 50th can blasted into it. You can see the 'Mystery Oil' separate as the butane hits the oils that are in the vessel.
The oil was then placed under vacuum at -29.9hg at 140*f for 25hrs; the oil did not evaporate (see other posts for further details on the 'purge').
NOTE: This oil was found while loading/recovering closed-loop through filters--ss 50micron and coffee. I did not use filters and ran as an open "BLAST" for video purposes.
This 'Mystery Oil' is at Steep HIll Halent Laboratories with the hope that they will be able to identify and then test for it in your BHO.
I've tested 8 brands in this manner and all 8 produce the same oil; Vector, Newport, Power5, Colibri, Xikar, FasFil, Lucienne, Magnum 5x.
I would like those who use --and more importantly-- those who produce BHO with cans, to see this. Please, share.
Posted by Ḥashshāshīn at 7:10 AM No comments:
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Mysteryoil.org is working to learn and understand what is in "Lighter Refill" cans of butane that are commonly used in open air, solvent extractions of cannabis. This practice is known as "Blasting" and may be potentially adding a "Mystery Oil" to the concentration of cannabis oils (known as BHO) being made in this manner. Our goal is to educate the public (CA-215 patients in particular) and help the Medical Marijuana community develop testing standards to help screen Butane Honey Oil (BHO) for these potential contaminants.
(Please note that with a closed loop system and the proper education you can clean your butane of this oil, and Clean, "Mystery Oil" Free, BHOcan be obtained.)
The History of the Mystery...
Mystery Oil was discovered while building a closed loop system and learning to recover hydrocarbons in it without cannabis material. I used 6 Newport cans in my initial attempt; and upon breaking the unit down, noticed a light oil in the collection vessel. The oil surprised me. I sterilized the vessel and other components thinking it was the Stainless Steel or some error I had made and tried again; same oil. I then ran open cans into Pyrex; same oil. Ran cold cans; same oil. Ran can to only half empty; same oil. Ran filters (coffee, carbon); same oil. Tried 9 different brands (Newport, Vector, Colibri, Xikar, Lucienne, Power5, Magnum, FasFil, Turbo Power; all the same oil. (although, some were more waxy than others)
Once I was convinced I was not going to collect the oil with simple filtration techniques and that it was not coming from the stainless steel equipment, I decided to begin running larger numbers of cans to try and gauge the amount of oil in each can, as well as gather enough weight for a lab to identify it. I collected 2.45g (.030/can) of MO from 79 cans of Newport and 1.45g (.024g/can) of MO from 60 cans of Vector.
Knowing that "open blasts" were commonplace, and upon collecting what I see as a fairly large amount of oil per can, I decided to begin sharing the findings with family and friends who use BHO. And it was those individuals who, upon watching the videos or experiencing the oil in person, requested the Mystery Oil page start.
Currently, the Mystery Oil from Vector and Newport are with multiple laboratories and are being run through various MC/GS and HPLC analysis.
This oil's IDENTITY is NOT YET KNOWN (other than it is petroleum based).
Its PPM level within BHO is NOT YET KNOWN.
Therefore, whether or not this oil poses a HEALTH THREAT to BHO users, is NOT YET KNOWN.
The goal is to 1. identify the oil 2. determine its toxicity/danger and then 3. establish a 'standard' for the Mystery Oil that will allow labs to test for its presence in BHO.
We are Ca Prop215 patients who grow their own flowers, extract their own BHO, and medicate daily.
facebook.com/mysteryoil
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TheRealDman
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Good read gb!
The Hippy
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I couldn't find an end result in the lab reports