Universal Basic Income; 'bout time or batshit crazy?

CaliSmokes

CaliSmokes

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dandyrandy said:
Actually you just showed me your iq. Get an education. I can show you tons of real jobs with pension, stock options etc. Just trying to help. You got this... Btw, I'm retired...
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Ahh creepy old man. I get it. Look, I'm not your son, pal, or buddy, and I don't need any new friends. I get you're retired and needed someone to talk to, but maybe try a retirement home? Bingo nights?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Paying off every student loan outstanding would cost $1.4 trillion. That sounds enormous, and it is- but the total cost of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter boondoggle is already projected to be $1.5 trillion, and counting.

The fighter will never work, and all those students already do. So which one is the better investment?
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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ttystikk said:
Paying off every student loan outstanding would cost $1.4 trillion. That sounds enormous, and it is- but the total cost of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter boondoggle is already projected to be $1.5 trillion, and counting.

The fighter will never work, and all those students already do. So which one is the better investment?
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Not to mention the value to society of wanting an education vs must get one before you do.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Right wingers claim to be businessmen but can't do basic handkerchief math in their head.

Someone with no education; working 40 hours but still has to claim everything they can on their EBT, no spending power, contribute nothing and get a tax rebate. (And I don't spite the person for it either, in case that was unclear)

Now compare that to someone who is educated; claiming nothing, paying net taxes of 10 to 20k a year, getting no rebate and can spend discretionary money to buy "stuff".

Which is better for the economy as a whole (businesses included)?
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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SneekyNinja said:
Right wingers claim to be businessmen but can't do basic handkerchief math in their head.

Someone with no education; working 40 hours but still has to claim everything they can on their EBT, no spending power, contribute nothing and get a tax rebate. (And I don't spite the person for it either, in case that was unclear)

Now compare that to someone who is educated; claiming nothing, paying net taxes of 10 to 20k a year, getting no rebate and can spend discretionary money to buy "stuff".

Which is better for the economy as a whole (businesses included)?
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It's the principle, they want their slave class. I really do not know, but often wonder that same thing. I think most of us realize that the entrepreneurs that run small businesses are the biggest drivers of our economy, and best represent the American dream/ reality.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Justin-case said:
It's the principle, they want their slave class. I really do not know, but often wonder that same thing. I think most of us realize that the entrepreneurs that run small businesses are the biggest drivers of our economy, and best represent the American dream/ reality.
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They're also the largest employers in the country but are treated like shit compared to the Corporations that have big lobby dollars.
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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SneekyNinja said:
They're also the largest employers in the country but are treated like shit compared to the Corporations that have big lobby dollars.
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Yep absolutely, I was clued in after what happened in Kansas when the governor cut small business taxes. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like a three hundred million dollar surplus to a fifty million dollar deficit?
 
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