New Beginnings for Massachussetts and I

[Axle4worc]

How old are the seedlings? 20K lux is pretty strong for true seedlings. If you have a 100 w (equivalent) 5000k or 6500k cfl measure it at 6 to 8" and use that as a lux guideline

They popped 2 days ago.
All I have are 60-watt house bulbs. I took readings in my flower tent and it is 70k lux at the canopy 16" away. I understand that they don't need 20 K lux but they should be able to survive it. I hope.

I sooo understand why people repot. Again I am having trouble because I planted in the final 5 gal pot. I am keeping the area around the seedling moist without soaking it but I think I need to soak the whole pot now. It is starting to go from damp to dry outside of the seedling area. Dry Coco is a no no. Right?

 

[greg nr]

Leaves have gone a bit crazy since the cobs were installed. I need to raise the light, its about 16 inches off the canopy. Pics soon

Yeah, I was a dumb ass also. I installed the qb's and put them about 24" over the plants at ~275 watts (plus 60 from xm-l2 leds). They were fine with 460 total watts from a mars/xm-l2 combo.

They weren't fine with the qb's. Burned the top of the canopy pretty good. Finally figured it out after chasing nute and ph issues (it wasn't). Raised the light, lowered the watts. Back on track. Hopefully I didn't kill them. Just going to week 6 of flower. I will be very happy when these are out of the tent. If I get anything smokeable I'll be amazed.

Dumb ass newbie.

 

[Bosgrower]

They popped 2 days ago.
All I have are 60-watt house bulbs. I took readings in my flower tent and it is 70k lux at the canopy 16" away. I understand that they don't need 20 K lux but they should be able to survive it. I hope. .....

Actually no, they probably won't survive it

 

[Bosgrower]

Serious question
If I have nearly 2 dozen pre-flowering tops on the plants from LST is there any point in putting on a scrog net? From what I understand of cannabis biology there's a limit to how many buds a plant can generate, you can simply reallocate them from a single main cola with a few smaller colas to multiple smaller colas. At this point I'm inclined to just let them grow out an provide any needed support.
Opinions?

 

[Axle4worc]

Actually no, they probably won't survive it

How do seedlings survive in equatorial regions? The light intensity is much higher than 20k. Guess i will see. Got lots of seeds to drop if they die. The way they are stretching, there is no way I am going to give them less light unless they show signs of stress.

These are 4x1818 cobs on a lower powered hlg 120h 48a. They are not supposed to be strong enough to harm them at 30"

 

[Bosgrower]

How do seedlings survive in equatorial regions? The light intensity is much higher than 20k. ...

You're right, ... and that brings up why outdoors plants in flower do quite nicely with moonlight and starlight but indoor growers go nuts over the tiniest light incursion. But I digress.
First, your seedling looks fine, not stretchy at all ... but that's to my admittedly untrained eye and without a side shot. I'm curious what kind of light meter you're using ... the readings may be off ... do you have a way to test it?

 

[be4meliz]

Doesn't appear to be stretching too much-looks fine-leave light where it is.If light burn occurs, you will get yellow tips.

 

[Axle4worc]

I just measured it. It is 1 1/2" after 18 hours. With all the red in my light I'm sure that is why they look taller than with the MH.

The meter I have is an app on my phone. At 18" it read about 40k with my 1000w hps. The plant at 70k in my flower tent was showing sunburn. The other one at 50k was doing wonderfully. I was able to move the burnt plant a little further away.

 

[Bosgrower]

I gave up on the phone meters ... never got the same reading twice ... and it was insanely directional. Tilt it even a little bit and the readings were useless. Splurged $16 on this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018QLIVSC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and I've been much happier

 

[Bosgrower]

I'll ask again ... anyone interested in meeting up at the NECANN show this weekend in Boston?

 

[be4meliz]

I gave up on the phone meters ... never got the same reading twice ... and it was insanely directional. Tilt it even a little bit and the readings were useless. Splurged $16 on this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018QLIVSC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and I've been much happier

I use lux meter as a base-can grow just fine in 40,000 range-I go from 70,000- 28,000 depending on bud location, so it gives me a means to rotate,move,etc. for best coverage, also tells me where to crop certain fan leaves to expose mid-bud sites. Very useful, but not exact, just a guideline(kinda like PPM meter that doesn't show separate elemental breakdown)

 

[greg nr]

I'll ask again ... anyone interested in meeting up at the NECANN show this weekend in Boston?

Sorry, I'm going to be covered in paint and fiberglass all weekend. Sounds like fun, just no free time.

 

[ttystikk]

How do seedlings survive in equatorial regions? The light intensity is much higher than 20k. Guess i will see. Got lots of seeds to drop if they die. The way they are stretching, there is no way I am going to give them less light unless they show signs of stress.

These are 4x1818 cobs on a lower powered hlg 120h 48a. They are not supposed to be strong enough to harm them at 30"

Give seedlings plenty of light, just don't let them dry out.

 

[greg nr]

Hey, was anyone down on the common today? Usually a pretty smokey scene on 4/20, must have been packed today.

 

[Axle4worc]

Give seedlings plenty of light, just don't let them dry out.

Gave each seedling a quart just inside the drip ring last night. Took off the humidity dome and am starting to raise tent humidity today. I am going to check moisture often and water the whole 5 gal pot to runoff next time. That will also help raise humidity.

Update on my one remaining Autofem Northern lights week 15 from Germ. Little Amber. Has had 70% dark hairs for 2 weeks. She is the biggest auto and has been flowered under 12/12.

Flushed and will give only water from now on. Her sister was 95% dark hairs and 30% Amber last week. Chopped up nicely.

I'll ask again ... anyone interested in meeting up at the NECANN show this weekend in Boston?

If I do, it will be Sunday. Wife wants to go but has vet for cat tomorrow.

 

[Stebbins]

Serious question
If I have nearly 2 dozen pre-flowering tops on the plants from LST is there any point in putting on a scrog net? From what I understand of cannabis biology there's a limit to how many buds a plant can generate, you can simply reallocate them from a single main cola with a few smaller colas to multiple smaller colas. At this point I'm inclined to just let them grow out an provide any needed support.
Opinions?

I started with lst then added my screen.Not sure about max budsites but from what I see here on my screen they keep producing budsites. This is my first real attempt at scrog and I must say I'll never go back! I'm also selectivly defoliating leaves blocking budsites every other day. I keep scrogging and check out how many bud sites I have(and they keep on coming) zoom in on that canopy and see what i mean! I literally counted over 150 on my 3.5x4ft screen and they are still making more as we speak.

 

[JustCallmeMom]

I knew they ran long, but 12 weeks? Ugggh. I'm less than half way there.

I know. It feels like i have been growing FOREVER
I think my next seed will be the 60 day wonder!

 

[JustCallmeMom]

I'll ask again ... anyone interested in meeting up at the NECANN show this weekend in Boston?

I was planning on going, but my mom is sick. Im not sure still yet, I want to so bad! hey, if i can make the flower show in boston I can damn well get to the cannabis show! I dont want to miss it.....

 

[JustCallmeMom]

Looks great, Mom! Knew you would get there- figure another 28 days on the White Widow(mine came in @ 90+ days. Those buds will start growing bigger and fatter as time goes on, so instead of a branch full of little nugs, you'll have an 8" coke can as they grow together.Read up on harvesting And Curing and get some good snips & bovida packs and jars.

so just keep giving the fox farms bloom nutes? should I be adding anything else or doing anything else at this point? she is drinking almost a gallon every other day, its amazing. Will she keep getting taller or slow down at this point? she is breaching maximum heightage in my tent even with all the LST I did earlier in veg....

 

[be4meliz]

2 weeks into flower- another week and a half or more. This is Pineapple Kush and does have that smell..