chemphlegm
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I feel so lucky
Any powdery mildew experts?
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Dr. Who
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@theslipperbandit
@Gary Goodson
@Dr.Nick Riviera
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You gotta peep this tool and his Eagle 20 rap......Start on pg 1 and then follow his decent into BS and desperation to justify his illiterate mentality...and increasing butt hurt from truth slapping "logic" in the ass.
I figure a cpl of you may want some fun time...TAG.....
@Gary Goodson
@Dr.Nick Riviera
@whitebb2727
You gotta peep this tool and his Eagle 20 rap......Start on pg 1 and then follow his decent into BS and desperation to justify his illiterate mentality...and increasing butt hurt from truth slapping "logic" in the ass.
I figure a cpl of you may want some fun time...TAG.....
Norby Grown
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Wow, you can't deal with logic, science, reason and truth so you are calling out people to troll me?
What a loser.
If you can't deal with someone using eagle 20 on his own crop, after doing the research on toxicity, and then telling his 5 patients he was doing it and then testing to see if any was left in the end product and then posting the TRUTH of the situation on a forum, you've got some real personal problems dude.
You should probably spend some time dealing with that rather then spending the time going after me. It would help you heal.
What a loser.
If you can't deal with someone using eagle 20 on his own crop, after doing the research on toxicity, and then telling his 5 patients he was doing it and then testing to see if any was left in the end product and then posting the TRUTH of the situation on a forum, you've got some real personal problems dude.
You should probably spend some time dealing with that rather then spending the time going after me. It would help you heal.
Tangerine_
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http://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/r280101011.html
http://www.coloradogreenlab.com/blog/eagle-20-and-myclobutanil-in-the-context-of-cannabis-cultivation-and-consumption
https://mlachapell.com/powdery-mildew/
http://www.apsnet.org/edcenter/intropp/LabExercises/Pages/PowderyMildew.aspx
http://extension.psu.edu/plants
PM is systemic and its a generic term that refers to a group of related fungi that are plant-specific and share common symptoms. The PM that can infect ornamentals will not necessarily spread to your vegetable garden or vise versa. However, it does spread easily from plant to plant from active spores. Understanding the difference is important.
Anyone thinking of using Eagle 20 should do their homework first. If you want to use if for your own personal smoke, cool. Have at it....but to sell/give/share cannabis treated with Eagle 20 without FULL disclose is unethical. Especially in a "medical" context due the nature and possibility of a user with a compromised immune system. And by FULL DISCLOSURE I mean a FULL explanation of the dangers and risks associated with Eagle20...not just "oh I had a bout of PM but I sprayed some shit so its cool now"
http://www.coloradogreenlab.com/blog/eagle-20-and-myclobutanil-in-the-context-of-cannabis-cultivation-and-consumption
https://mlachapell.com/powdery-mildew/
http://www.apsnet.org/edcenter/intropp/LabExercises/Pages/PowderyMildew.aspx
http://extension.psu.edu/plants
PM is systemic and its a generic term that refers to a group of related fungi that are plant-specific and share common symptoms. The PM that can infect ornamentals will not necessarily spread to your vegetable garden or vise versa. However, it does spread easily from plant to plant from active spores. Understanding the difference is important.
Anyone thinking of using Eagle 20 should do their homework first. If you want to use if for your own personal smoke, cool. Have at it....but to sell/give/share cannabis treated with Eagle 20 without FULL disclose is unethical. Especially in a "medical" context due the nature and possibility of a user with a compromised immune system. And by FULL DISCLOSURE I mean a FULL explanation of the dangers and risks associated with Eagle20...not just "oh I had a bout of PM but I sprayed some shit so its cool now"
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Tangerine_
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Dr.Nick Riviera
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back in the day, when I was learning, It saved my ass, But I learned there are much better/SAFER ways to deal with it.
Like having your environment controlled to where you just don't get it.
Pm,Like Mites, attack weak plants, grow healthy plants is lesson 2
Be glad you grow and smoke your own stuff, you never know what MFer's are spraying on their shit.
Like having your environment controlled to where you just don't get it.
Pm,Like Mites, attack weak plants, grow healthy plants is lesson 2
Be glad you grow and smoke your own stuff, you never know what MFer's are spraying on their shit.
theslipperbandit
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Couldn't read on after the mixing silicon with milk n water. @sunny747 banish this monstrosity of misinformation
theslipperbandit
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You're a moron this guy was in high fucking times for his strains, not to mention his knowledge on soooo many aspects . I follow a few members advice n he's most certainly one.
Next time use endomycorrhizal and foliar silicon as the endo will help below n silicon is used on grapes to resist pm..but no milk,ever
http://journal.ashspublications.org/content/117/6/906.short
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theslipperbandit
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I use ur origionally stated method but with a hint of mycorrhizalCan exist for decades until conditions are right for it to proliferate again.
You can scrub your room hospital clean and fresh spores can drift in with the next waft of fresh air. We are surrounded by spores of all sorts of molds, fungi, mildews and all sorts of bacteria and virus that don't cause problems until conditions line up to allow them to grow. High humidity and heat make it easy for these things to gain a foothold on our plants and mess things up. Cooler temps and low RH go a long way to keep them at bay.
I feed my plants silica to help them repel disease and make them stronger. It can also be sprayed on the plants to make the pH on the leaf surfaces too high for mildew to flourish. I used 1ml/L of Rhino Skin recently to get rid of mildew on some clones a friend gave me. Not sure if it was powdery mildew but was something like it and it was gone after one application.
theslipperbandit
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It'll also kill all ur pets
theslipperbandit
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Tangerine_
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theslipperbandit
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So can everyone say sorry to Dr who for wasting his time and everyone else that reads this dribble.
Norby Grown
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Quite confusing. You post things that say it is and isn't systemic in the same post. I can't tell where the last copy and paste came from to say it IS systemic. But I agree with teh second part in that there are a # of different PM's that affect different plants and they don't cross species(except the hops variety can affect PM). And aspirgillus and PM spores would be just as bad or worse than eagle 20 for immunocompromised patients so I don't understand how you'd think eagle 20 would be worse? One cg I know uses eagle 20 on all his own crops since he has problems with fungal spores(immune problems). Not saying you are wrong just that i have got conflicting info here.
But I agree, if used wrongly it could cause problems, but then again, so can neem. Any large or small scale grow that proactively sprays anything can cause problems. Knowing what you are using and how it works is the most important thing with ANYTHING you spray on your plants, even fertilizer and organic bio insecticides or fungicides. I'd recommend not using neem without letting your customers/patients know exactly how you are growing. I'd recommend not spraying AACT's on your flowering plants withuot telling your patients what you are doing. Everything can be harmful if used wrong.
But I agree, if used wrongly it could cause problems, but then again, so can neem. Any large or small scale grow that proactively sprays anything can cause problems. Knowing what you are using and how it works is the most important thing with ANYTHING you spray on your plants, even fertilizer and organic bio insecticides or fungicides. I'd recommend not using neem without letting your customers/patients know exactly how you are growing. I'd recommend not spraying AACT's on your flowering plants withuot telling your patients what you are doing. Everything can be harmful if used wrong.
Norby Grown
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Well, he acts like a douche. He attacked the truth for no reason and blew my recommendations out of proportion to attack me personally. Attacking me I can get over, says more about him then me, but trying to say what I said was not truthful isn't acceptable.
People still read high times?
I couldn't care less on his knowledge on sooo many aspects, I only care about this one. And his knowledge is lacking big time.
Endo for help below? You think that PM goes into teh roots?
People still read high times?
I couldn't care less on his knowledge on sooo many aspects, I only care about this one. And his knowledge is lacking big time.
Endo for help below? You think that PM goes into teh roots?
Tangerine_
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Its not confusing. And no. Not all "sprays" pose the same risks. Are you seriously equating AACT with Eagle20?
Do you understand what happens to a patient with a compromised immune system...especially those that need colony building treatments/meds?
Do you understand the pulmonary complications/disorders that accompany varying forms of chemo treatments...even long after the pt has successfully completed treatments?
Obviously NOT!
Do you understand what happens to a patient with a compromised immune system...especially those that need colony building treatments/meds?
Do you understand the pulmonary complications/disorders that accompany varying forms of chemo treatments...even long after the pt has successfully completed treatments?
Obviously NOT!
theslipperbandit
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So right there you admitted you're ignorant u pig ignorant cunt n here you go NOOBWell, he acts like a douche. He attacked the truth for no reason and blew my recommendations out of proportion to attack me personally. Attacking me I can get over, says more about him then me, but trying to say what I said was not truthful isn't acceptable.
People still read high times?
I couldn't care less on his knowledge on sooo many aspects, I only care about this one. And his knowledge is lacking big time.
Endo for help below? You think that PM goes into teh roots?
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=endomycorrhizal+powdery+mildew&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwim0b__47XTAhWMI8AKHcMbB3IQgQMIGjAA
theslipperbandit
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Yay common sense, thank you
Norby Grown
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Wow, are you guys all this reactive?
Do you understand what a whole load of bacteria can do to someone with a compromised immune system because you sprayed AACT into teh buds? Do you even know what all bacteria and fungal strains are in your AACT? Obviously not. Then how can you say what will happen to immunocompromised patients inhaling or eating such meds?
ANd obviously you can't even tell that you've posted conflicting info on whether or not PM is systemic. Read your post dumbass and tell me whether you think PM is systemic or not?
And what the hell are you talking about what happens to a patient who needs colony building treatments and how eagle 20 affects that. What do pulmonary complications have to do with using MJ that was sprayed with eagle 20 and tested to see that it has all dissipated(NONE LEFT IN THE BUDS)? It'd be safer than giving some MJ with aspergillus to a immunocompromised patient to smoke, no? If you think the aspirgillus would be better you should just stop now. If not tell me how a trace amount of eagle 20 is worse than giving them something contaminated with tons of unknown bacteria and fungal spores to inhale?
Do you understand what a whole load of bacteria can do to someone with a compromised immune system because you sprayed AACT into teh buds? Do you even know what all bacteria and fungal strains are in your AACT? Obviously not. Then how can you say what will happen to immunocompromised patients inhaling or eating such meds?
ANd obviously you can't even tell that you've posted conflicting info on whether or not PM is systemic. Read your post dumbass and tell me whether you think PM is systemic or not?
And what the hell are you talking about what happens to a patient who needs colony building treatments and how eagle 20 affects that. What do pulmonary complications have to do with using MJ that was sprayed with eagle 20 and tested to see that it has all dissipated(NONE LEFT IN THE BUDS)? It'd be safer than giving some MJ with aspergillus to a immunocompromised patient to smoke, no? If you think the aspirgillus would be better you should just stop now. If not tell me how a trace amount of eagle 20 is worse than giving them something contaminated with tons of unknown bacteria and fungal spores to inhale?
theslipperbandit
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Go back to basics and if I knew who u were I'd inform your patients they're receiving poison...can just picture u handing a bag to a cancer patient or some anti vacation freak with fuck all immunity. If America bans it that shits definitely bad.