Do you trust mainstream media?

[budman111]

I thought you were buying the site.

Oh, I forgot. You don't do anything but troll.

Buying this site? you are some sight more like.

 

[budman111]

He was 'vacationing' for a minute.....

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You are about as funny as Cancer.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

You are about as funny as Cancer.

You are ideological cancer

 

[budman111]

You are ideological cancer

Think all that Geo-engineering trails are going to your head.

 

[UncleBuck]

Think all that Geo-engineering trails are going to your head.

your brain is full of jew cum. jews have been cumming in your ears as you sleep. and then the cum gets on your brain.

LOL. this was a funny thing to say.

 

[budman111]

your brain is full of jew cum. jews have been cumming in your ears as you sleep. and then the cum gets on your brain.

LOL. this was a funny thing to say.

Thanks for the new sig, I'm gonna spread your jew cum, in your own words over RIU ...

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Thanks for the new sig, I'm gonna spread your jew cum, in your own words over RIU ...

You don't swallow?

 

[Big_Lou]

You don't swallow?

A blatant lie. He loves swallowing. In fact, he swallowed so much of mine that he flew into a triggered state and changed his avatar!

 

[srh88]

yes their opinion shows and pieces deceive and lead people to believe dumb stuff.

even their news segments are full of plenty of lies and retractions compared to other networks that are more responsible.

and the "news" they do choose to cover, like the 'OMGZ political correctness on college campuses' stuff is dumb and agenda-driven.

and let's not forget that they just choose not to cover certain news items which do not fit their agenda.

all those addendums aside, their actual news is fairly objectively true.

they are fairly credible as far as news organizations go.

For actual news.. weather, traffic and local headlines fox news is pretty decent. I think it's just the fox news channel that really talks politics but it's really all opinion. Not news. Just overpaid idiots speaking their stupid minds. Cnn is more liberal but at least they do have debates. And both sides always gets mad as hell, it's hilarious. Anyone with half a brain can do their research and look up real facts

 

[Olive Drab Green]

I can't stand Fox. Have you ever looked at the comment sections for their articles? I think their viewers have a collective IQ of 70 and their educational curriculum is straight propaganda.

I usually get pissed off at the obvious bias of the network and flip to CNN or I just sit a jug of ANFO next to my TV and blow it up.

 

[Fogdog]

It was is more of an estimate than you try to make out, more was destroyed than you say. You should also understand who the party's involved in making the estimates were. With that, you can not guarantee it was impartial. It's like asking Hillary to audit Trump.

You are giving me a angle that I do not hold.. I've already stated I was totally against Hitlers actions, just as much as I was against Churchill bombings and Roose dropping nukes. I have no sympathy what so ever for Nazis or Hitler, I have a shared hate for him, church and roos but this somehow makes me racist against Jews?. I do see the charismatic side of all three, they didn't lead country's for nothing. I do have sympathy for normal German civilians, as with other nations civilians including Jews living both in Germany and neighboring country's. What I do have is massive contempt for historians and all others involved who continually highlighted the Jewish holocaust to the point most other deaths and atrocity's (some equally or greater) during and after the war have been forgotten or over looked, just a foot note. I have no contempt at all for the millions of Jewish people who were caught up in the Nazi machine in any shape or form. If that by your measure makes me a racist nazi sympathetic then check your logic.

The atrocities committed by the allies do not change what Hitler did, I agree and never stated otherwise. How those events are played down historically and the lack of public disgust around them is the difference, they do mater, including Vietnam. If stood close enough, they called Bob Marley the tree that blocked the woods, the woods being all the other reggae musicians of his era. Western history has made the Jewish holocaust such a tree, blocking many other atrocities including it's own.

No race baiting here. You are the intelligent type of person who knows it's better to stick to the easy opinions in order to avoid ridicule. You think and have conflicting opinions of your own but don't have the balls to voice them on risky topics. That makes you worse than the out right ignorant.

I do not lie. On a grey topic like this it is more than possible to acquire miss information and conclusion and if that were true then that would be the case, quite different to out right deceit.

A lie would be to come here and tell you the holocaust never happened at all, knowing it did. I have not made any counter claims to any of the other facts surrounding the holocaust (because I believe them to be true) aside from the figure. I hold that opinion due to the below.

Typed in google ''How many jews died in the holocaust''. The first site states between 5 and 6 million, the rest claim up to or exactly 6 million, point is the number is a constant.

Watch this / Yes it is a YouTube vid but it shows live evidence of actual newspapers, rather than me linking you to some paraphrased website. Now it's either a huge coincidence that 6 million is the figure used in those separate events in the papers and so happened to be the WW2 holocaust figure or it is a fabrication. When you take into account the constant use of that number and the party's involved in counting the death toll after WW2 I lean towards fabrication.
Again I fail to see how this makes me racist or sympathetic. I dispute one point alone due to the above... because it is genuinely iffy. If in-fact 6 million did die I am very sorry to God and those who suffered. The standing point was the tree that blocked the woods. Look at how offended everybody is getting for questioning part of that tree and focusing only on that.. while down playing the other atrocities I've mentioned. Only goes to show..

Your racism is deeply rooted and I'll never get it.

 

[budman111]

You don't swallow?

Is that the first thing that 'came' into your mind?

 

[Flowki]

I take plenty of controversial positions.

One especially relevant opinion to this conversation is my ongoing opposition to American support of the state of Israel based on its apartheid behavior against the Palestinian people, even those who hold Israeli citizenship.

Yitzhak Rabin was a peacemaker who tried to bridge the divide- and was in fact murdered by a Jewish Israeli extremist for his trouble.

With the rising popularity of alternative media that is hopefully a safe position to take, it's clear to see what is going on there and should people dig deeper, it also has Churchill involvment. It is a political/criminal cluster fk of a long drawn out persecution of Palestinians, though people say it can not be called that because Palestine's are not entirely innocent. I don't know all of Americas intentions or reasons for meddling with who they do but I assume the cliche of it revolving around oil and nukes. Or do you know otherwise?, maybe they have good intention.

It may be that people are responding badly to your tone, and I agree this can be difficult to manage in written form.

You probably know the Palestine history from above and objectively understand it was part of antisemitic views recirculating. But ofc anitX views exist for a lot of races formed by various origin. None of that is going away.

My tone is genuinely impartial but that means jack shit to people who have picked a side yet don't understand that it's not a 2 sided coin. It seems like any statement made these days has a specific race or politically correct card to be played, with the motive to revoke freedom of speech or create ridicule by those it benefits. Your current view or how it may progress is not exempt depending on who you are talking too. Naturally it is not racist because what is going on over there is absolute bs regardless of who is involved.

Whether the tally of Jews lost in the Holocaust reached 6 million or not, it remains an awful chapter in human affairs. An exact number changes nothing from our perspective in history. That said, it does not stand in the way of our knowledge of understanding of many other acts of genocide. One need only consult Google to read a grisly and all too lengthy litany of man's inhumanity to man.

This is true, the total number dare I say it is a detail to the atrocity itself, but the continual repeat of unrelated 6m figures shows likely deceit on some level, that's worth knowing (to me). Yes, anybody can use google to find out this and that but I think you know the majority of people only get surface level info or mainstream, who choose what not to show as you said in another post. On that, you were likely one of the few if only who read any of this and knew about Churchill and the famine. History is something to learn from but like race cards, mainstream media (and government) use it mostly as a weapon.

 

[Fogdog]

With the rising popularity of alternative media that is hopefully a safe position to take, it's clear to see what is going on there and should people dig deeper, it also has Churchill involvment. It is a political/criminal cluster fk of a long drawn out persecution of Palestinians, though people say it can not be called that because Palestine's are not entirely innocent. I don't know all of Americas intentions or reasons for meddling with who they do but I assume the cliche of it revolving around oil and nukes. Or do you know otherwise?, maybe they have good intention.





You probably know the Palestine history from above and objectively understand it was part of antisemitic views recirculating. But ofc anitX views exist for a lot of races formed by various origin. None of that is going away.

My tone is genuinely impartial but that means jack shit to people who have picked a side yet don't understand that it's not a 2 sided coin. It seems like any statement made these days has a specific race or politically correct card to be played, with the motive to revoke freedom of speech or create ridicule by those it benefits. Your current view or how it may progress is not exempt depending on who you are talking too. Naturally it is not racist because what is going on over there is absolute bs regardless of who is involved.



This is true, the total number dare I say it is a detail to the atrocity itself, but the continual repeat of unrelated 6m figures shows likely deceit on some level, that's worth knowing (to me). Yes, anybody can use google to find out this and that but I think you know the majority of people only get surface level info or mainstream, who choose what not to show as you said in another post. On that, you were likely one of the few if only who read any of this and knew about Churchill and the famine. History is something to learn from but like race cards, mainstream media (and government) use it mostly as a weapon.

Your racism is deeply rooted and you are alone in it.

 

[ttystikk]

With the rising popularity of alternative media that is hopefully a safe position to take, it's clear to see what is going on there and should people dig deeper, it also has Churchill involvment. It is a political/criminal cluster fk of a long drawn out persecution of Palestinians, though people say it can not be called that because Palestine's are not entirely innocent. I don't know all of Americas intentions or reasons for meddling with who they do but I assume the cliche of it revolving around oil and nukes. Or do you know otherwise?, maybe they have good intention.





You probably know the Palestine history from above and objectively understand it was part of antisemitic views recirculating. But ofc anitX views exist for a lot of races formed by various origin. None of that is going away.

My tone is genuinely impartial but that means jack shit to people who have picked a side yet don't understand that it's not a 2 sided coin. It seems like any statement made these days has a specific race or politically correct card to be played, with the motive to revoke freedom of speech or create ridicule by those it benefits. Your current view or how it may progress is not exempt depending on who you are talking too. Naturally it is not racist because what is going on over there is absolute bs regardless of who is involved.



This is true, the total number dare I say it is a detail to the atrocity itself, but the continual repeat of unrelated 6m figures shows likely deceit on some level, that's worth knowing (to me). Yes, anybody can use google to find out this and that but I think you know the majority of people only get surface level info or mainstream, who choose what not to show as you said in another post. On that, you were likely one of the few if only who read any of this and knew about Churchill and the famine. History is something to learn from but like race cards, mainstream media (and government) use it mostly as a weapon.

Churchill was not alone in his responsibility for creating Israel. Truman and Stalin were also involved and all the signed the (Yalta? Potsdam?) agreement creating it.

Significantly, no Palestinians were invited to the conference to speak for the people who lived there and have been being driven out or killed ever since. This makes America complicit, a fact many in this country would rather not face.

I have no problem with Jewish people; it's Israel's ongoing policy of apartheid that I find abhorrent, and it's rising to the level of genocide in terms of what's been done to the Palestinian people over time.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Churchill was not alone in his responsibility for creating Israel. Truman and Stalin were also involved and all the signed the (Yalta? Potsdam?) agreement creating it.

Significantly, no Palestinians were invited to the conference to speak for the people who lived there and have been being driven out or killed ever since. This makes America complicit, a fact many in this country would rather not face.

I have no problem with Jewish people; it's Israel's ongoing policy of apartheid that I find abhorrent, and it's rising to the level of genocide in terms of what's been done to the Palestinian people over time.

And that's how you make an argument against Israeli policy without being a Nazi, racist, piece of shit.

Thank you.

 

[Moldy]

Why/why not?

I don't trust the information I get from mainstream media sources because I know they operate as a business, their goal is ratings which equates to advertisement revenue, not objective information.

I think it's evident FOX represents the Republican party, MSNBC represents the Democratic party and CNN holds a neutrality bias, which means they act like both sides [Democrats & Republicans] are equal, and they leave you, the viewer to make up your own mind.

I believe the media has a responsibility to hold elected officials accountable. At this, they have failed.

"R.I.P.,Fairness Doctrine. ... From the time it was put in place in 1949 until its demise in 1987, theFairness Doctrinerequired holders of broadcast licenses to provide the public with news and public affairs programming, and present opposing viewpoints on controversial issues.Jun 9, 2011"

This should be required by all news outlets and they should require the "entertainment news" to be labeled fake, just for laughs.

 

[ttystikk]

"R.I.P.,Fairness Doctrine. ... From the time it was put in place in 1949 until its demise in 1987, theFairness Doctrinerequired holders of broadcast licenses to provide the public with news and public affairs programming, and present opposing viewpoints on controversial issues.Jun 9, 2011"

This should be required by all news outlets and they should require the "entertainment news" to be labeled fake, just for laughs.

The Fairness Doctrine should never have been repealed. Doing away with it has allowed for an unbridled surge of corporatist propaganda masquerading as 'news'.

 

[Flowki]

Churchill was not alone in his responsibility for creating Israel. Truman and Stalin were also involved and all the signed the (Yalta? Potsdam?) agreement creating it.

Significantly, no Palestinians were invited to the conference to speak for the people who lived there and have been being driven out or killed ever since. This makes America complicit, a fact many in this country would rather not face.

I have no problem with Jewish people; it's Israel's ongoing policy of apartheid that I find abhorrent, and it's rising to the level of genocide in terms of what's been done to the Palestinian people over time.

Oh yeah ofc, he was one guy and the whole thing surely pre dated his and others involvement at that time too. Ofc this is just one topic in a sea of untold so I don't claim to know every detail about every aspect. One of the interesting things I always meant to read up on was the claims that the Germans tried to end the war but Churchill refused due to the underlining Israel objective. Considering what he did to Indians on top of initiating the bombing of civilians it did not sound too far fetched... but equally and more likely just be another lie from obvious party's.

And that's how you make an argument against Israeli policy without being a Nazi, racist, piece of shit.

Thank you.

If you were truly neutral you would be treating all those involved in the persecution of Palestinians with the same level of disgust as those involved in the Jewish holocaust. Look at your choice of words.

I should give you the benefit of the doubt I am sorry. Over time and infamy we have coined such descriptive language to show such disgust by saying ''Nazi, racist, piece of shit''. We don't currently have that ability to describe what is happening to the Palestinians so must settle with language like ''Israeli policy''. I'm not being sarcastic, or something of that nature.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Oh yeah ofc, he was one guy and the whole thing surely pre dated his and others involvement at that time too. Ofc this is just one topic in a sea of untold so I don't claim to know every detail about every aspect. One of the interesting things I always meant to read up on was the claims that the Germans tried to end the war but Churchill refused due to the underlining Israel objective. Considering what he did to Indians on top of initiating the bombing of civilians it did not sound too far fetched... but equally and more likely just be another lie from obvious party's.



If you were truly neutral you would be treating all those involved in the persecution of Palestinians with the same level of disgust as those involved in the Jewish holocaust. Look at your choice of words.

I should give you the benefit of the doubt I am sorry. Over time and infamy we have coined such descriptive language to show such disgust by saying ''Nazi, racist, piece of shit''. We don't currently have that ability to describe what is happening to the Palestinians so must settle with language like ''Israeli policy''. I'm not being sarcastic, or something of that nature.

Wtf are you talking about?

I never said I agreed with it, I said you can criticise it without launching into an anti-semetic "Zionist...banker...etc" rant.