First time veggie garden

[HansBud]

What's going everyone I've been growing pot for about a year and it's spiked interest in all plant life for me. I want to start growing other shit and why not start with some regular ol veggies ( tomatoes , peppers etc) just wondering if anyone can give me some tips from starting the seeds inside and bringing them outside
I was thinking just simple cherry and beefsteak tomatoes and bell peppers

I have about 8-10 weeks left before final frost is done so I figured this is perfect timing

My initial plan is to use Solo cups and the same soil I've been using (Happy Frog, Light Warrior) just curious if the soil will be too hot or not and if I'll have to feed em before going outside

My plan was to start them under t5's with a 15/9 light schedule

Then finally when they are ready I have spread a bunch of mushroom compost outside where they will be transplanted into the ground

I'll take any tips and help I can get

 

[blake9999]

So far you sound like you know what you doing. You can't go wrong with the choices of veggies you made. I just put my garden in the ground yesterday. Would have done it last week but we had some bad rain expected and it's over now. I tilled a quarter ton homemade compost into the ground and dressed them up with some triple 13. They should be good to go most of the season. I have Belle Peppers and 'Delicious' tomatoes in the ground as my summer crop. I chose those tomatoes because they heirloom and i can save the seeds for next year. If you have 8 to 10 weeks till planting you should have some healthy plants by then to plant.

 

[Bareback]

Sounds like you have a plan. Just be sure to harden them off.

 

[WayFarGone]

Think a bit about your light schedule, moving a plant from a 15/9 schedule to the outdoors will often result in the plant immediately going into flowering depending on your hours of sunlight. This can be a good or bad thing, you don't want really small plants to go into flower immediately as your yield will be small. If your plants are as big as you want fast flowering using this method can be a benefit. I grow habaneros and red Thai peppers year round and thanks to indoor lighting I've got pepper plants that are three years old. This is a pic I took last Friday of one of my habaneros that was on 18/6 and I put it outside where it gets about 12 hours of light a day. Fresh new blooms within a few days! If you leave the plant outside it will adjust to the light schedule, if your hours of light are increasing it will go back into veg - you'll usually get a good bunch of early peppers before it does though. BTW, this pic is one of the 3 year old habaneros - it's almost chest high on me now.

 

[HansBud]

Think a bit about your light schedule, moving a plant from a 15/9 schedule to the outdoors will often result in the plant immediately going into flowering depending on your hours of sunlight. This can be a good or bad thing, you don't want really small plants to go into flower immediately as your yield will be small. If your plants are as big as you want fast flowering using this method can be a benefit. I grow habaneros and red Thai peppers year round and thanks to indoor lighting I've got pepper plants that are three years old. This is a pic I took last Friday of one of my habaneros that was on 18/6 and I put it outside where it gets about 12 hours of light a day. Fresh new blooms within a few days! If you leave the plant outside it will adjust to the light schedule, if your hours of light are increasing it will go back into veg - you'll usually get a good bunch of early peppers before it does though. BTW, this pic is one of the 3 year old habaneros - it's almost chest high on me now.

Sweet Thanks for the heads up! I picked 15/9 because by the time they will be outside my area will be getting 15 hours of light of day, would you put them on a different schedule if you were me?

 

[WayFarGone]

Sweet Thanks for the heads up! I picked 15/9 because by the time they will be outside my area will be getting 15 hours of light of day, would you put them on a different schedule if you were me?

Nope, they shouldn't go into flower if your light cycle matches what they'll get outdoors. They should really start growing when you put them outside, sunlight is almost always better. Keep us posted on how it's going.

 

[socaljoe]

@WayFarGone, no offense intended, but you're giving bad advice. Neither tomatoes nor peppers are photoperiod plants, daylight hours don't affect flowering as you're suggesting. Both plants love light and will grow well in full sun, as well both will flower as they grow regardless of long/short daylight hours.

@HansBud tomatoes will basically grow themselves, they're incredibly easy. Don't over water and feed with a balanced (or tomato specific) fertilizer, you'll be amazed how they grow. Wish I could give some tips on peppers, but I've had shit luck with them.

Have fun with it, a garden is a great thing. I've got tomatoes, cucumbers, green beans, butternut squash, spaghetti squash, zucchini, sugar pie pumpkins...and yes, some bell peppers, trying to end my bad luck spell with peppers this year.

 

[ANC]

Check out this little vid for some ideas.

His microgreens section may be applicable. Heck, you could fit them in in-season too.

 

[WayFarGone]

@WayFarGone, no offense intended, but you're giving bad advice. Neither tomatoes nor peppers are photoperiod plants, daylight hours don't affect flowering as you're suggesting. Both plants love light and will grow well in full sun, as well both will flower as they grow regardless of long/short daylight hours.

Thanks for setting me straight, I had always assumed they were because they start blooming immediately when I move them outside going from 16/8 to what is around 12/12 in spring where I live. I did look it up. Just proves age doesn't always=wisdom!

 

[socaljoe]

Thanks for setting me straight, I had always assumed they were because they start blooming immediately when I move them outside going from 16/8 to what is around 12/12 in spring where I live. I did look it up. Just proves age doesn't always=wisdom!

I'm no expert, so let me get that out of the way first. Perhaps what you're noticing is a response to decreased daylight hours, they flower like crazy because the daylight hours tell them the season is coming to an end? Sounds like a good thing to me, more flowers means more fruits. Maybe someday I can try this out if I ever get an indoor growing setup going.

 

[WayFarGone]

I'm no expert, so let me get that out of the way first. Perhaps what you're noticing is a response to decreased daylight hours, they flower like crazy because the daylight hours tell them the season is coming to an end? Sounds like a good thing to me, more flowers means more fruits. Maybe someday I can try this out if I ever get an indoor growing setup going.

Like you I'm no expert, I am an old country boy who pays attention to plants though and I came to the same conclusion. It's gotta be the sudden shock of changing the light cycle so dramatically, nothing else seems to fit. Great minds think alike I guess!

 

[A.K.A. Overgrowem]

Check out this little vid for some ideas.

His microgreens section may be applicable. Heck, you could fit them in in-season too.

If that's a quarter acre I'll eat my hat.

 

[Poontanger]

If U want sum early tommies , let 1 get badly root bound, that will force it to produce flower arms, then when U plant it out, loosen the roots , & it will respond ....also have a think about how many flowers are on you plant, sometimes removing a few is a huge help, & youll get bigger fruit

 

[DonBrennon]

Think a bit about your light schedule, moving a plant from a 15/9 schedule to the outdoors will often result in the plant immediately going into flowering depending on your hours of sunlight. This can be a good or bad thing, you don't want really small plants to go into flower immediately as your yield will be small. If your plants are as big as you want fast flowering using this method can be a benefit. I grow habaneros and red Thai peppers year round and thanks to indoor lighting I've got pepper plants that are three years old. This is a pic I took last Friday of one of my habaneros that was on 18/6 and I put it outside where it gets about 12 hours of light a day. Fresh new blooms within a few days! If you leave the plant outside it will adjust to the light schedule, if your hours of light are increasing it will go back into veg - you'll usually get a good bunch of early peppers before it does though. BTW, this pic is one of the 3 year old habaneros - it's almost chest high on me now.

Awesome info bro, I've got quite few tiny little tom's and pepper plants fully fruiting in fecking June, PMSL, I'd already guessed my schoolboy error before I read your post, but it's good to hear it from somebody else, rather than just assuming.

Cheers

 

[Dutchieman420]

Think a bit about your light schedule, moving a plant from a 15/9 schedule to the outdoors will often result in the plant immediately going into flowering depending on your hours of sunlight. This can be a good or bad thing, you don't want really small plants to go into flower immediately as your yield will be small. If your plants are as big as you want fast flowering using this method can be a benefit. I grow habaneros and red Thai peppers year round and thanks to indoor lighting I've got pepper plants that are three years old. This is a pic I took last Friday of one of my habaneros that was on 18/6 and I put it outside where it gets about 12 hours of light a day. Fresh new blooms within a few days! If you leave the plant outside it will adjust to the light schedule, if your hours of light are increasing it will go back into veg - you'll usually get a good bunch of early peppers before it does though. BTW, this pic is one of the 3 year old habaneros - it's almost chest high on me now.

This is the same thing I want to do with my Fresno chiles I have them in a smart pot just like that but I just put my bells in the ground right next to my house I live in Northern California it definitely gets cold here but I'm hoping I could use some supplemental light or build a greenhouse around the ones that I put in the ground I will update soon with some pictures of my tomatoes I've done an interesting concept this year super high yield comingsoon

 

[weedhead24]

I would just use compost teas and water .Why buy soil ?You can use your blessed ground soil .If you live in U.K.U.S. People say this or that about ground soil don't use it .But every time I use ground soil I get amazing results . You just got to work the dirt.Its very simple plant and watch it grow . Everyone gardens different so my way may not work your way you learn as you go what works

 

[weedhead24]

Thanks for setting me straight, I had always assumed they were because they start blooming immediately when I move them outside going from 16/8 to what is around 12/12 in spring where I live. I did look it up. Just proves age doesn't always=wisdom!

veggies will flower under 18 hours of sunlight once they mature .all 12/12 does it promote it to flower .It just encourages it to produce

 

[Dutchieman420]

Okay here's the pictures that I promised

 

[weedhead24]

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your corn got tall and them tomatoes are putting out egg shape tomatoes . I had those shape last year . you got you a nice little plot area there .Whats the vine like plants you got there

 

[Dutchieman420]

your corn got tall and them tomatoes are putting out egg shape tomatoes . I had those shape last year . you got you a nice little plot area there .Whats the vine like plants you got there

There's a couple Vine like plants the one in the top picture is lemon squash there's also in the bottom picture beans I think they're Liberty beans and spearmint I have beef steak and Juliet tomatoes The Juliet's are the egg-shaped ones. I started all of my corn indoors I don't know why people say not to do that those two big ones I started really early I also have some pumpkins growing I didn't take pictures but I will I just put it in a nice new hatch a couple days ago I'm germinating seeds right now the wife and I are also thinking about building a greenhouse on the side yard there looking for a cost-effective way I saw Walmart had a nice one for around 150 which is 15 ft x 7 ft x 7ft