I only grew 2 times in my long rich 18mnths carrier
so I will state only that I read when I was investigating 12/12 from start (I wasnt satisfied with potency of my first grows) ,and It says that foto will still have at least two-three weeks of veg then going in pre flower,so its like a whole month before real flowering, sutoflowets at least new ones are starst preflower at 16 days,so by third week they are in flowering...give that most of photo strrains are 60 day flowering you have full 90 day cycle,and you have a lot of 11 week af. strains,with you can pull off 3 oz easy..i read that photo runed 12/12 f.s hardly give you more than 2 oz.. correct me if I'm wrong..