New Beginnings for Massachussetts and I

Axle4worc

Axle4worc

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be4meliz said:
Seen it done both ways- rack would be fine, just rotate buds daily so they dry evenl
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So, you are saying that leaving the buds on the stems for the first few days has no benefit whatsoever? Everywhere I have read had said they only used racks when they don't have the room to hang. The slower the cure the better.

I would much rather do it the easy way and remove the buds right away but don't want to give up any quality
 
greg nr

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Axle4worc said:
So, you are saying that leaving the buds on the stems for the first few days has no benefit whatsoever? Everywhere I have read had said they only used racks when they don't have the room to hang. The slower the cure the better.

I would much rather do it the easy way and remove the buds right away but don't want to give up any quality
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Hmm, I've seen people use the racks with buds on sticks. It's just like hanging, just a different space profile.

The only knock i've heard of it is that it can flatten the buds on the bottom. So less than ideal bag appeal, but otherwise no diff in quality.
 
be4meliz

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Axle4worc said:
So, you are saying that leaving the buds on the stems for the first few days has no benefit whatsoever? Everywhere I have read had said they only used racks when they don't have the room to hang. The slower the cure the better.

I would much rather do it the easy way and remove the buds right away but don't want to give up any quality
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No, I agree leaving on stems will extend the drying period- my last grow dried(hanging) in 3 1/2 days@ 70 Deg.& 50% rh.- just know her setup, so baskets will work
 
HideousPenguinBoy

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Sorry, been gone for a while. So, I talked about automating the grow with a raspberry pi. I did that. Raspberry pi, 16 relay board, and some plugs and power supplies, and now I have a $2000 automation tools for... $80ish. If this is something people are interested in, I can expound on it.

Also, previous to that, the high heat fucked everything. Foxtailing and barely visible trichomes. It blows. The control unit is dealing with it now, but it looks like the damage is already done. Week 9 starts in a few minutes, and the 4 sativas don't look ready AT ALL. The Bubblelicious (which had the anaerobic bacteria problems) looks ready but has dinky buds. Round two is already started and doing well with a more SoG approach instead of the original 5' tall round 1.

Hope everyone is doing well and their babies are frosty.
 
sine143

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HideousPenguinBoy said:
Sorry, been gone for a while. So, I talked about automating the grow with a raspberry pi. I did that. Raspberry pi, 16 relay board, and some plugs and power supplies, and now I have a $2000 automation tools for... $80ish. If this is something people are interested in, I can expound on it.

Also, previous to that, the high heat fucked everything. Foxtailing and barely visible trichomes. It blows. The control unit is dealing with it now, but it looks like the damage is already done. Week 9 starts in a few minutes, and the 4 sativas don't look ready AT ALL. The Bubblelicious (which had the anaerobic bacteria problems) looks ready but has dinky buds. Round two is already started and doing well with a more SoG approach instead of the original 5' tall round 1.

Hope everyone is doing well and their babies are frosty.
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definitely intereested in hearing about your raz pi project. any provisions for CO2 control?
 
Axle4worc

Axle4worc

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HideousPenguinBoy said:
Week 9 starts in a few minutes, and the 4 sativas don't look ready AT ALL. The Bubblelicious (which had the anaerobic bacteria problems) looks ready but has dinky buds
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Sorry to hear about that. It is all a learning curve. I made tons of mistakes. As long as you don't give up, you will figure it out.

Today is end of week 10 for my sativa. She has had her flush and darkness. She looks very done. Certainly too tall for the lights. Maybe overdone. Chopping today ready or not. She had way too much abuse, I mean learning opportunities.

Here are some pics of my little ones too. Little stunted for 20 days. The burn on Misty stopped when I moved the lights from 18" to 26". Funny the others didn't mind it at 18".
 

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sine143 said:
definitely intereested in hearing about your raz pi project. any provisions for CO2 control?
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Components: Raspberry Pi 3, DHT22 temp/hum sensor, 16 Channel Relay Board, power supplies, a box, wires and shit. (Optional: power socket plugs, more sensors, different sensors)

First you install the Raspbian operating system on the pi. The software you install for the control is called Mycodo, which an awesome person has on the web for free, open source. Wiring shit is a pain in the ass, but not super hard. Just go over things multiple times, because you are dealing with house current. Go into the raspberryPi and connect to your wireless network.(wifi on board) Then it's just a matter of setting things up in the web interface and plugging things in.

I have my lights on a timer, though 848 watts blew a relay, so I had to split it to two. (I'm guessing a high peak at turn on) My 730nm lights are on a separate timer. AC and heater are using maximum/minimum temps, though you can use PID controls that vary your temps to be cooler over "night" and warmer during the day. It emails me if the temp gets too low or high, or just to remind me the lights came on.

You CAN use a CO2 sensor and have a relay control stuff with that, though I didn't do it because the sensor is expensive. You can also use a sensor that measures soil wetness so it auto waters your plants when they are too dry. (the chirp, because it doesn't corrode like other sensors)

My box looks AWFUL! I mounted it in a wine box that I painted, and the inside looks like spaghetti with all the wires. I have 4 x 15 amp circuits feeding from a subpanel into computer case plugs in the bottom of the box, and ten single sockets in the side for everything to plug into. In the future (when I automate watering) I will add another 10 to the other side. I did have some growing pains where I screwed up settings and my lights screwed up, but when you have someone who can handhold you (me) you won't have to deal with that crap.

https://github.com/kizniche/Mycodo
 

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greg nr

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I love projects like this. It would be overkill for me but still love it. Unfortunately its fishing season and I don't have the cycles. Maybe next winter.....

HideousPenguinBoy said:
Components: Raspberry Pi 3, DHT22 temp/hum sensor, 16 Channel Relay Board, power supplies, a box, wires and shit. (Optional: power socket plugs, more sensors, different sensors)

First you install the Raspbian operating system on the pi. The software you install for the control is called Mycodo, which an awesome person has on the web for free, open source. Wiring shit is a pain in the ass, but not super hard. Just go over things multiple times, because you are dealing with house current. Go into the raspberryPi and connect to your wireless network.(wifi on board) Then it's just a matter of setting things up in the web interface and plugging things in.

I have my lights on a timer, though 848 watts blew a relay, so I had to split it to two. (I'm guessing a high peak at turn on) My 730nm lights are on a separate timer. AC and heater are using maximum/minimum temps, though you can use PID controls that vary your temps to be cooler over "night" and warmer during the day. It emails me if the temp gets too low or high, or just to remind me the lights came on.

You CAN use a CO2 sensor and have a relay control stuff with that, though I didn't do it because the sensor is expensive. You can also use a sensor that measures soil wetness so it auto waters your plants when they are too dry. (the chirp, because it doesn't corrode like other sensors)

My box looks AWFUL! I mounted it in a wine box that I painted, and the inside looks like spaghetti with all the wires. I have 4 x 15 amp circuits feeding from a subpanel into computer case plugs in the bottom of the box, and ten single sockets in the side for everything to plug into. In the future (when I automate watering) I will add another 10 to the other side. I did have some growing pains where I screwed up settings and my lights screwed up, but when you have someone who can handhold you (me) you won't have to deal with that crap.

https://github.com/kizniche/Mycodo
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HideousPenguinBoy

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greg nr said:
I love projects like this. It would be overkill for me but still love it. Unfortunately its fishing season and I don't have the cycles. Maybe next winter.....
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Heh, I mean, you COULD do this with less relays. I just like being able to control heat/cold, humid/dehumid, cameras, lights, all from the comfort of my phone. (;

Took me about 2 days of futzing to do this. Much of my time was hemming and hawing over "Is this right? Should I put this here? how should I mount the power supply?"
 
Stebbins

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Just a few updated pics. 5th week of 12/12. Flood table has been on auto pilot for over a week now. Hope I stay lucky.
My first time in hydro and I've incorporated DWC bubble buckets, aerocloners, and flood and drain! Talk about time consuming. Really need to automate some of this ish!
 

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be4meliz

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Plants looking awesome- now the waiting game-you'll go Batshit Crazy checking trics(you will mentally see milky but don't jump the gun( this and trim are game changers)- but almost there-Great job!!
 
greg nr

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Finally nearing the finish line at week 8. Trich's are still mostly clear, so probably another week. Or so I hope.

I need to clear the tent for my next run. So far I ended up with 3/3 ssdd (bodhi sunshine daydream) females and (so far) 1/2 gogi og's (bodhi).. I also have 3/3 ninja fruits and the other gogi waiting to tell me what they are. They are being shy so I took some clones and tossed them into 12/12.

So it looks like my next run will at least be ssdd and gogi. Just waiting for the current run to clear the tent, hoping I don't blow out of my starter tent or end up with too many females.....
 
JustCallmeMom

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Axle4worc said:
Not frosty yet? The frost is the Trichomes. What are you using to look for them?


Yes I do.

Easier yes. Better, I doubt it. If you have the time and space, the slower dry on the branches is better.
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dont have anything yet to check trichs...guess I should get on the ball. ordered a couple of things a few months ago off amazon and they were garbage.

so you dry hang....do you leave leaves on when you hang, or do you trim before you hang?
there are so many ways to do it....just dont want to **ck up my first plant! LOL
 
JustCallmeMom

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greg nr

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JustCallmeMom said:
do you use a camera microscope? i want to be able to take 60x pics and post them. the last 2 things i ordered off amazon were useless. one was a cube the size of a dice.

yeah, i never saw those shiny spots before. and her bottom leaves are yellowing/browning. she is close.
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It's a usb microscope someone here recommended. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GIJZQA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It connects to your computer. You can also buy a small clip on scope that will go on your phone and costs less that $10. It works, but the pictures are in a funcky round format.

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The usb scope was a pita until I realized that if I put it in video mode, I can go back later and screen scrape the clear images. Otherwise it's impossible to hold it and get a clear picture unless you have an assistant.
 
greg nr

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JustCallmeMom said:
im new at this thing...so....your pictures above, are those clear? look milky in some points but I would say clear...yes?...got to read up more on this part, usually I am ahead of the game. bad mommy
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Mostly clear, yes. You want to look at them from the side, not top down. I have at least a week to go, maybe 2. I'm so ready to be done with this grow and move on to the next......
 
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