I did not realize Obamacare cost increases over the last few years were all Trumps Fault

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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trump is a uniter. he united racist white people like a champ. even got praise from david duke and richard spencer for it.

if you're getting praised by the grand wizard of the KKK, stop whatever you're doing.
 
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goldberg71b

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PCXV said:
Lack of trying?



And the economy continues to improve under Obama era policy. Let's see where Trump and Republicans take us. Here's a clue:

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Do you even understand why the stock market went up? Not because everything was doing swell! But because they were printing money and interest rates were at zero.

That means anyone with money is putting it in the market. Because banking it isn't earning anything. That inturn artificially raises the market. Because someone with money wants to make more money. That means they were better off buying stocks at a higher than valuation earned them more than banking it. It also raised the prices of stocks because everyone kept buying stocks for the returns. The only reason they didn't dive off is because they believe regulations will be reduced along with taxes. It's also rising because most expect healthcare reform. Ocare cost keep rising with possible repeal all looks good in the markets.

Want to see it drop like a rock? Leave Ocare in place. Don't reduce taxes it will sink!
 
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goldberg71b

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UncleBuck said:
did he feign raptor hands to mock disabled people, describe his favorite way to sexually assault a woman, call for the summary execution of 5 innocent black men, promise to block all muslim people and to deport all mexican people?

like, that kind of divisiveness?
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You seem to sure realize how bad that is. Doesn't it also tell you how HORRIBLE Hillary was? The media hawked and repeated all those comments a billion times. You don't think they know how awful that was? They did they just thought it was less awful than Hillary. What ever trump said he did it as a citizen. The laws Hillary broke where broken in OFFICE! I think her handling classified information and misleading the world about videos while SEC OF STATE is far far worse. And so did the voters that's why she got CRUSHED.

Get over it. We had to deal with Obama for 8 years and no one cared how we felt. So quit your crying. Lick your wounds and do better next time!

But you better change course. I said it earlier. You've all lost 1400 seats during Obamas tenure. You're not going in the right direction. And you haven't for a long long time. Each of those 1400 losses hasn't taught you guys a thing.

Like I said run that wet noodle out there again and she'lllose for the 3rd straight time. Now there's a glass ceiling she can break!
 
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SneekyNinja

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goldberg71b said:
You seem to sure realize how bad that is. Doesn't it also tell you how HORRIBLE Hillary was? The media hawked and repeated all those comments a billion times. You don't think they know how awful that was? They did they just thought it was less awful than Hillary. What ever trump said he did it as a citizen. The laws Hillary broke where broken in OFFICE! I think handle classified information and misleading the world about videos while SEC OF STATE is far far worse. And so did the voters that's why she got CRUSHED.

Get over it. We had to deal with Obama for 8 years and no one cared how we felt. So quit your crying. Lick your wounds and do better next time!

But you better change course. I said it earlier. You've all lost 1400 seats during Obamas tenure. You're not going in the right direction. And you haven't for a long long time. Each of those 1400 losses hasn't taught you guys a thing.

Like I said run that wet noodle out there again and she'lllose for the 3rd straight time. Now there's a glass ceiling she can break!
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So what laws did Secretary Clinton break?

Be specific please, I await your answer with baited breath.

(PS: I can't keep the charade going...)

 
PCXV

PCXV

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goldberg71b said:
Do you even understand why the stock market went up? Not because everything was doing swell! But because they were printing money and interest rates were at zero.

That means anyone with money is putting it in the market. Because banking it isn't earning anything. That inturn artificially raises the market. Because someone with money wants to make more money. That means they were better off buying stocks at a higher than valuation earned them more than banking it. It also raised the prices of stocks because everyone kept buying stocks for the returns. The only reason they didn't dive off is because they believe regulations will be reduced along with taxes. It's also rising because most expect healthcare reform. Ocare cost keep rising with possible repeal all looks good in the markets.

Want to see it drop like a rock? Leave Ocare in place. Don't reduce taxes it will sink!
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You are conflating issues and making absolutely no sense. In your argument you concede that the stock market rose regardless of Ocare and "high taxes" because QE (along with other policy) was working to fuel investment and economic growth. The Fed did what it should have done in the Great Depression, and it worked (to a debatable extent with other factors to consider).

The stock market continues to rise, umemployment continues to drop, and wages have started to rise all under Obama era policy. No end to Ocare in sight (without huge political blowback), and tax cuts that will be hard fought as the CBO shows how much debt we will be in if they take place. We already did the "cut taxes for the rich, increase military spending, deregulate the financial markets, cut public infrastructure and safety nets" under Reagan, Clinton, and Bush, remember how that turned out?

Before Ocare premiums were rising 10% each year, 640,000 medical bankruptcies each year, no pre-existing condition coverage guarantee, once you got sick your insurance dropped you, 10 million more peope uninsured, people were stuck in their jobs just for health benefits, etc.
 
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goldberg71b

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SneekyNinja said:
So what laws did Secretary Clinton break?

Be specific please, I await your answer with baited breath.
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Mishandling of classified information. Some of those classified emails had info that wasn't supposed to leave the skiff. And some how it wound up on her private serve at home.

Destroying government property. Those phones and laptops were improperly destroyed with a hammer! I'm just curious how that's doesn't make you scratch your head?

She also failed to get approval for a private server. Misdirecting government work to an outside private network isn't legal. If it were proper why didn't she seek approval? She didn't just learn how to handle classified info. She was the First Lady. Then my sentator. Followed by sec of state. And you're going to tell me she doesn't know how to handle it properly.

She also signed a document upon leaving stating she wasn't retaining any government documents. Meanwhile never mentioning her private server with THOUSANDS of documents.

Huma should be in the cell next to her. She was sending classified emails to WIENER of all people. WHO HAD NO CLEARANCE. So he could PRINT them out! What part of classified don't these people get!
 
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goldberg71b

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PCXV said:
You are conflating issues and making absolutely no sense. In your argument you concede that the stock market rose regardless of Ocare and "high taxes" because QE (along with other policy) was working to fuel investment and economic growth. The Fed did what it should have done in the Great Depression, and it worked (to a debatable extent with other factors to consider).

The stock market continues to rise, umemployment continues to drop, and wages have started to rise all under Obama era policy. No end to Ocare in sight (without huge political blowback), and tax cuts that will be hard fought as the CBO shows how much debt we will be in if they take place. We already did the "cut taxes for the rich, increase military spending, deregulate the financial markets, cut public infrastructure and safety nets" under Reagan, Clinton, and Bush, remember how that turned out?

Before Ocare premiums were rising 10% each year, 640,000 medical bankruptcies each year, no pre-existing condition coverage guarantee, once you got sick your insurance dropped you, 10 million more peope uninsured, people were stuck in their jobs just for health benefits, etc.
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I KNOW WE CAN ALL KEEP OUR DOCTORS! And OUR PLANS! We'll give free healthcare to 30 million people. We won't increase the number of offices and doctors and everything will be CHEAPER. You don't give away anything 30 million times without raising costs.

What good is a health plan that has a 10K deductible? Especially when the cost is more than what you paid before with a lower deductible. And to top it off you can't see the doctor you've seen for the last thirty years!
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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goldberg71b said:
Mishandling of classified information. Some of those classified emails had info that wasn't supposed to leave the skiff. And some how it wound up on her private serve at home.

Destroying government property. Those phones and laptops were improperly destroyed with a hammer! I'm just curious how that's doesn't make you scratch your head?

She also failed to get approval for a private server. Misdirecting government work to an outside private network isn't legal. If it were proper why didn't she seek approval? She didn't just learn how to handle classified info. She was the First Lady. Then my sentator. Followed by sec of state. And you're going to tell me she doesn't know how to handle it properly.

She also signed a document upon leaving stating she wasn't retaining any government documents. Meanwhile never mentioning her private server with THOUSANDS of documents.

Huma should be in the cell next to her. She was sending classified emails to WIENER of all people. WHO HAD NO CLEARANCE. So he could PRINT them out! What part of classified don't these people get!
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I asked specifically what law she broke.

Trump has broken nepotism laws multiple times to appoint family members to positions where they can promote their brands.

That's laws actually broken, Clinton at worst slightly bent guidelines.
 
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goldberg71b

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I'm still waiting for those 1 trillion dollars worth of shovel ready jobs! Oh that's right there's no money left after those signs that told us the repairs came from stimulus at the rate of 1 million per sign! That's how you use stimulus.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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goldberg71b said:
I KNOW WE CAN ALL KEEP OUR DOCTORS! And OUR PLANS! We'll give free healthcare to 30 million people. We won't increase the number of offices and doctors and everything will be CHEAPER. You don't give away anything 30 million times without raising costs.

What good is a health plan that has a 10K deductible? Especially when the cost is more than what you paid before with a lower deductible. And to top it off you can't see the doctor you've seen for the last thirty years!
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You're an idiot; European Universal Healthcare costs between 2 and 4x less than our system.

You can go check the numbers, it's all public record.
 
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goldberg71b

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SneekyNinja said:
I asked specifically what law she broke.

Trump has broken nepotism laws multiple times to appoint family members to positions where they can promote their brands.

That's laws actually broken, Clinton at worst slightly bent guidelines.
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Which item don't you understand?
1 mishandling classified info
2 moving her government work through her private server
3 removing classified info from a skiff!
 
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goldberg71b

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SneekyNinja said:
You're an idiot; European Universal Healthcare costs between 2 and 4x less than our system.

You can go check the numbers, it's all public record.
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Oh yeah! And Americans have been going there for years because they're so much better than us. Oh that's right they come here because they might die waiting on line.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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goldberg71b said:
The laws Hillary broke where broken in OFFICE! I think her handling classified information and misleading the world about videos while SEC OF STATE is far far worse. And so did the voters that's why she got CRUSHED.
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she actually won by 3 million votes and we gained seats in the house and senate, retard.

speaking about lying to the world about videos, trump just said the botched yemen raid got us a video that was very valuable, but it turned out to be posted to youtube (LOL) 10 fucking years ago. no comment on that?

speaking of handling classified information, trump was informed by obama, sally yates, and others that flynn was a compromised foreign agent and he STILL kept him on for weeks. pence conducted homeland security affairs in his aol.com (LOL) email account, got hacked, mad another aol.com (LOL) email account and did it again. no comment on that?

hillary didn;t break any laws, comey said so.

trump was told he hired a traitor, and kept him on anyway until the media found out.



nothing to say about trump's ultra-divisive comments about anyone who wasn;t white? thought so, shitbag.

kill yourself, you dumb racist.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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goldberg71b said:
Mishandling of classified information. Some of those classified emails had info that wasn't supposed to leave the skiff.
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comey said she broke no laws. and it is SCIF, you retard.

and the "classified" info was a NYT article that acknowledged the existence of our drone program (LOL) and a condolence letter to the spouse of a dead foreign head of state (LOL).

meanwhile, trump was told he had a compromised foreign agent on his staff and let him have access to ALL of our most classified and secure info, and you say nothing.

dumb racist retard.
 
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