You are dodging. It's only systemic if it's brought up thru the xylem(watered in the root zone), it's not systemic if you spray as it doesn't get spread thru the phloem of the plant, it stays in the first 2 cell layers.
Active ingrdient level for oberon is 45% of teh product.
https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/www.agrian.com/pdfs/Oberon_4_SC_InsecticideMiticide_MSDS1e.pdf
Eagle 20 myclobutanil 19% 2ml/gallon equals 8 drops per gallon for myclobutanil. care to do the math for oberon?
https://kernred.co.kern.ca.us/kern-agcomm/products/EAGLE 20 EW.pdf
You're lazy. Explain what you mean and give me something as reference.
I've been growing over 30 years dumbass and am close to 50, you've been growing over 50 years? What equatoreal sativas? LOL.
If you looked long enough you could probably find an organic compound in a plant that myclobutanil can be sysnthesized after. They are different but you don't seem to see how much they are teh same for your argument. I'm having a blast with this, don't know where you'd think you hurt my feelings.
Oh look, your older then you act! Or so you say.....
44 Years growing our plant - 59 years old. College grad. Agronomy/farming and all the class's that are required to go with that. Hort, Botany, Biology and a host of others.
I worked a rather large (10 acre) greenhouse for a local (to the college) florist/plant shop while in college. Later took over the running of that after the old German fellow who did, retired.
I then accepted an offer from a major drug company to set up and expand a growing operation for creating taxol from the bark of Yew bush's. Specific yew bush's. Found better and faster propagation (cloning) tec for them along the way. The place was on 5 different locations and had greenhouses for propagation and faster development for the young and freshly rooted. They would be moved outside when they were old enough. Total land I oversaw at the time of my leaving, 1850 acre's. That's over 80.5
million square feet. At it's peak we had a plant count of
over 20 million plants growing at one time!
That's "who" I am.
Now for some interesting information on your post.
Your
WRONG on the percentage of spiromesifen in Oberon! The actual percentage of spiromesifen in Oberon is 23.1 %
Forbid is the 45.2 percent!
Your
WRONG on how Eagle 20 is systemic too! (it is in every way it's applied) The following is from the EPA study !
Mode of Action
Myclobutanil is the active ingredient in several brands of pesticides, including Eagle 20EW. Myclobutanil works by blocking a key enzyme involved in fungal cell membrane synthesis, leading to abnormal cell growth and eventual death of the fungal pathogen (2) Myclobutanil is a systemic fungicide, meaning it is absorbed at the site of application (ex. leaf) and distributed throughout the rest of the plant, thereby providing more comprehensive protection from fungal infection (2). As a systemic chemical, myclobutanil cannot be removed by washing treated crops, although residue will decrease in plant tissues over time. The final remaining residue levels vary considerably and are highly dependent on the rate of application, the time of last application before harvest, and how well the specific plant clears the chemical from its system.
Eagle 20 - it is a known reproduction or developmental toxin and a suspected endocrine disruptor. Ecological toxicity is particularly harsh on aquatic organisms and amphibians.
The Half life of eagle 20 in soil is 66 days.
Natural water is 25 days and sterile water is 222 days
residual plant half life is 297 days
Exposure limit to the Myclobutanil is .5mg
Damage occurs by repeated exposure in the (in this order) liver, testes, adrenal gland, kidneys, thyroid.
Extracts increase measurable concentrations by 250%
Tox data is available here.
https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+6708
Forbid is listed as being for use on "ornamentals"... The concentration used is because it's intended for use on "woody" decorative plants. The spiro has less ability to penetrate the surface of those plants.
Oberon is just about half the percentage (concentration) of Forbid because it's intended to be used on Thin and softer skinned plants.
Many mistakenly
assume it's because one is for edible plants and the other is for non-edible plants. That is not the case.
This is from the California dept of pesticide regulation report on it's acceptance study in 2005.
"DPR’s evaluation of the acute toxicity studies indicates that these spiromesifen products are low in mammalian toxicity. DPR toxicologists determined that the differences in formulations between the two end-use products and BSN 2060 were unlikely to be of toxicological concern. Acute toxicity studies conducted with BSN 2060 are suitable for bridging to the two end-use products."
Trying to compare your chem to mine is as stupid as you are! The amount by percentage or "concentration" of the chemical in the compound is based on the amount of concentration needed to be effective as it is applied to the specified plants..
Your an uneducated moron, trying to justify his severely mistaken "logic" conclusions.
You have no real idea on "how to" search for proper information. Your posted "claims" and incorrect information stand that out!
I highly suspect your not 50 and have more like 3 years of growing under your belt!
In the words of the great
Adrian Cronauer. "I have never met a man in more dire need of a blow job in my life."
Sadly, I doubt you could search that up either......
I'm done with you!
Your now on *ignore*..
