what do you think of the set up? any in4 you can give to help?

[converseking]

once i save up the money this is what i was thinking of getting to grow with. a 2'x8''x2'8'' darkroom w/ (2) 2ft 4blub t5's to use as my veg room.I decided to go with thoes over the 2ft 8bulb light just for a lil bit of flexibilty in case i have to move my lighting around in any way. and a 3'11''x3'11'' darkroom with a 400w or 430w hps light for flowering with all the right venting and order controll. i was gonna go with the 4'11''x4'11'' darkroom bt bt i think that space would be good for a 600watter not the 400 im gettin and 1k would just be over kill. i wanted to start out growng 3 plants outta (3) 5gal DWC buckets. do you think i could grow with more then jus the 3 buckets in my flowing room after i have done 1 or 2 successful grows or is that around as many as i can get in that space?

 

[E S]

You can cover a 4'11" x 4'11" DR with a 432w T5 fixture. Gotta keep the plants short though, even with a 1K.

 

[converseking]

that would be the 4ft t5 tho right? my veg room is only gonna be 2'8''x2'8'' so that wouldnt work at all for me bt thanks

 

[E S]

2'8"x2'8" is way too small for what you described. I'm just warning you, you'll be disappointed.

You'd be better off doing a SOG with 1 5-gallon bubbler in the small DR for cuts and a 3x3 E&F in the bigger.

If you're vegging 3 plants in a 2'8' square tent the only place they can go is up and even on a 45-day strain, they gone get huge. You'd have to run a vertical bulb in the 4x4 to get what you want. Think about a SOG.

 

[converseking]

if all goes well with this set up an i get the money to expand i was thinking or using a 9'10''x9'10'' DR ( if nt jus a room in my place) and put in (4) 4'x4' ebb&flow tables with (4) 600watters 1 ova ach table. i no i'll need hella venting for that bt i'll have erthing i need b4 i evn try somhing this big. i'll jus use the 3'11''x3'11'' DR w/ the 400watter to hold mothers and to veg any clones i mite wanna grow a lil more. and use the 2'8''x2'8'' room for rooting and holding clones. the only thing is i didnt wanna use mothers to clone from i was gonna veg my plants and den jus take clones to root right b4 putting them n2 my flowering room and that way i could keep things goin with clones w/o have to have to use mothers bt if i did that what use would i have for the my old rooms lol idk anybody got any thoughts on this also

 

[converseking]

2'8"x2'8" is way too small for what you described. I'm just warning you, you'll be disappointed.

You'd be better off doing a SOG with 1 5-gallon bubbler in the small DR for cuts and a 3x3 E&F in the bigger.

If you're vegging 3 plants in a 2'8' square tent the only place they can go is up and even on a 45-day strain, they gone get huge. You'd have to run a vertical bulb in the 4x4 to get what you want. Think about a SOG.

yea i was gonna sog when i went with the bigger grow i jus posted. so you dont think i could veg 3 plants to 12'' or maybe a lil sorta under the (2) 2ft 4bulb t5's in the 2'8''x2'8'' room? untill i put them in the flowing room?

 

[E S]

What I'm saying is they're going to get way bigger than that before the flowering room is harvested. It's going to get so big, the bottom leaves won't produce for you. See? they'll be able to grow up but not out.

 

[E S]

Just so you understand what you'll be getting into... MzJill's Bubbling SpaceQueen... 'Start to Finish Bubbler with Lucas Formula' - BreedBay .... here's a thread to show you how it's done.

 

[E S]

You could clone a plant 5 weeks into flower but they'll take a month to root, then you'll have to reveg em for another month before they take off.

You gotta keep your plants short, and the best way to do that with the things you think you need is a sea of green. If you run a 3x3 E&F SOG you can be harvesting a pound every other month. 1 5-gallon bubbler for cuts and you're set.

Or just do 1 huge bush at a time. Did you read the link I posted?

 

[converseking]

You'd be better off doing a SOG with 1 5-gallon bubbler in the small DR for cuts and a 3x3 E&F in the bigger.

yea thats a good idea and i see what you mean about the plants growing to big while the others are flowing if i take the clones b4 i put them in2 flowering the only way my idea would work IN THAT SPACE would be if i had a mother plant to take clones from around 2-3 weeks b4 the flowing plant got finished. then use those clones to put in2 flowing after they rooted and grew a lil in thoes 2-3 week.

 

[converseking]

You could clone a plant 5 weeks into flower but they'll take a month to root, then you'll have to reveg em for another month before they take off.

You gotta keep your plants short, and the best way to do that with the things you think you need is a sea of green. If you run a 3x3 E&F SOG you can be harvesting a pound every other month. 1 5-gallon bubbler for cuts and you're set.

Or just do 1 huge bush at a time. Did you read the link I posted?

yea thanks for the link and i think your prob rite bout the sog pluse it'll give me exp with ebb&flow b4 i try it out on the bigger grow i was thinking of( did you read that post? wat do you think) i still think i should start off with the 3 plats since i'll b growing from seed only growing one plant at a time would take me 4eva to getta afemale to make a mother if i keep gettin males or sum lik that. then one i veged the 3 plants i'll take clones and flower the 3 and if i get a female use her clone to make a mother and then get the 3x3 ebb&flood and do the sog.

 

[E S]

Yeah I read the link/thread. I wouldn't have linked you to it if I didn't know what was up.

I like the idea of DWC but you gotta keep the roots at 70*F or they'll get rot. If you wanna use a chiller you gotta recirculate, if you wanna recirculate there is always the possibility of flooding. If you don't recirculate you gotta manage multiple buckets and you have to be on it 24/7 depending on their size/stage of growth. It's far from hassle free.

If you want my opinion on starting seeds, do it in soil and pop as many as you can.

 

[converseking]

so what do i do after i pop all the seeds in soil? hw do i switch em to hydro after dat? why shouldnt i jus use rockwool? and can u tell me hw many plants you think i shoud try to get in2 the 3x3 system to get the lb evey other month? hw tall to veg them to so they'll be rite for sog? and what should i use to grow the small plants in in the ebb&flow tray? srry 4 al the ?'s jus tryin to get dis all dwn

 

[E S]

so what do i do after i pop all the seeds in soil? hw do i switch em to hydro after dat? why shouldnt i jus use rockwool? and can u tell me hw many plants you think i shoud try to get in2 the 3x3 system to get the lb evey other month? hw tall to veg them to so they'll be rite for sog? and what should i use to grow the small plants in in the ebb&flow tray? srry 4 al the ?'s jus tryin to get dis all dwn

Rockwool is good too. Easy to handwater.

Fill the tray up with hydroton or lava rock and drop your clones straight into it. Or if you use pots you can arange them so that the larger plants are on the outside and the smaller plants go directly under the light. Makes it easier to trim too. I grow in beds of hydroton.

As for veg time make sure each clone has a running start going into 12/12 dig? I give my girl about 3 days before I flip. My clones are tiny at about 2".... keep em short.

#s...... a lot of people go 1 plant every 6" but if your lady has huge leaves you might wanna spread her out a bit more. Try 36 in the tray (-1 for the fittings if you have to) and work from there. If you can go 1 plant every 4" that's 81 plants in a 3x3 so there is lots of room to play around.

 

[converseking]

so you switch to flowing with you clones as lil a 2''? dats kind small dnt u think i hear lik 6'' then flower is about rith for sog or im i misunderstanding you? or jus have bad n4?

what size should your plants be when flowering from clones if you wanted to get 4plants per sq ft? jus askin 4 the in4.

 

[converseking]

do you think this would be good for me? Econo 1 Tray System

 

[E S]

so you switch to flowing with you clones as lil a 2''? dats kind small dnt u think i hear lik 6'' then flower is about rith for sog or im i misunderstanding you? or jus have bad n4?

what size should your plants be when flowering from clones if you wanted to get 4plants per sq ft? jus askin 4 the in4.

Come on man.... shit! They don't finish at 2". A 2" clone might finish at 3 foot just gotta see what kinda plant you're working with. Gotta figure the numbers out on your own, that's where experience with a plant factors in. Gotta pay attention and learn your plant.

 

[converseking]

dats still doesn't answer my ? you start to flower your plants as lil as 2''? and no you plants can grow 3x bigger when flowering but starting at 2'' they'd still end under a foot. and if you sog and cut off the lower 1/3 then you'd have even less.

 

[E S]

dats still doesn't answer my ? you start to flower your plants as lil as 2''? and no you plants can grow 3x bigger when flowering but starting at 2'' they'd still end under a foot. and if you sog and cut off the lower 1/3 then you'd have even less.

Yes, I flower 2" clones.

Are you tellin me or askin me?

 

[converseking]

i was asking. so hw big do thoes 2'' clones end up? and what type are you growing?