Seeds From A Hermie..??

tpc_mikey

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I use Hortilux Super hps for the better spectrum and still mix in a ceramic metal halide for more full spectrum and some uv.

But you can grow good weed with most if the stuff they sell. The increases from additives and special lighting are in diminishing returns.

A few percent better is all that is possible from them. Good gardening and a good environment are far more important.

I am considering a method more like yours. I may mix in and topdress when needed an organic pellet nute and other than that well water only the whole cycle. Man that would be sweet if I could get the same results.
Well i pulled the trigger and got a 1000w HPS cooled hood scrubber and inline fan end of last week buds have exploded with growth since adding this, it has an adjustable dimmer so been running it at 600 first few days now have bumped it to 750. Just think they are to close to hood to run the 1000 or 1000+ and no way to raise the light.
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MichiganMedGrower

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tpc_mikey

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That can be genetic or a mild phosphorous deficiency.

Also as the plant ages some leaves or even all of them may get purple stems.

Some of my plants are striped purple on the main stem from early on.
Ok well i wont worry about it then unless it starts to get worse i did a top dress of tomato tone and kelp meal this morning so if it is phos that should help correct it in a few days. OFF TO WORK!
 

turnip83

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Hi everyone I've gotta sour d from seed that I've kept as a keeper pheno but what I've noticed is that during week 3-4 of flower it pops this orange pistills right at the top of the main kholas. The rest of the pistills are white . When I get to flushing and around week 9 sometimes there's a seed and sometimes there's a empty seed sack. Out of the seed pack I kept thus pheno cause it's the strongest herb I've ever grown or smoked. Out of a pound of this sour d I managed to get 10 dark seeds . Question is will they be worth growing. Apart from that it's a dank as plant . Even tho it throws seeds here and there. I won't name the breeder but alot of people are complaining about them in the strain section
 

tpc_mikey

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Well if she is making seeds your getting some hermies in them gonna toss a nanner here or there, Gorilla glue is notorious for doing it, way i see it if the smoke is great who cares if you get a seed or 2 just more reason to keep growing it. HEHE, my GG4 threw about 100 dicks first few weeks of flower and i picked every one of them off i could find she since hasnt tossed anymore and this is where im at 35 days into flower. Cant tell me this isnt gonna be dank, and if i find a seed or 2 who cares!!!IMG_1583.JPG IMG_1590.JPG IMG_1592.JPG IMG_1593.JPG
 

Moe Flo

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Well I'll say FME that hermi pollen does not always produce herms in all preceding seeds. I believe there's just too many variables. I have many hermi seeds that I don't try to run it's just their from top shelf chucks and I've been lucky running them. Then one last year and then one this year, really bad herm. Tons more seeds now. But I still have cuts from last years hermi seeds that don't throw beans.

Here's one, a reveg/reflower attempt of an RPK cross I did last year from herm pollen that looks and smells amazing @ day 32. This is my first successful reveg/reflower BTW. 20170524_114235.jpg
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Moe Flo

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Well if she is making seeds your getting some hermies in them gonna toss a nanner here or there, Gorilla glue is notorious for doing it, way i see it if the smoke is great who cares if you get a seed or 2 just more reason to keep growing it. HEHE, my GG4 threw about 100 dicks first few weeks of flower and i picked every one of them off i could find she since hasnt tossed anymore and this is where im at 35 days into flower. Cant tell me this isnt gonna be dank, and if i find a seed or 2 who cares!!!View attachment 3948610 View attachment 3948611 View attachment 3948612 View attachment 3948613
Dude just got the GG#4, don't tell me she herms? Was she from seed? I usually just mist them when I see nanners. I'll pick em if I wanna chuck but wait........
Why am I complaining? GG#4 pollen,hmmm. I guess I'll take it anyway I can. I'm a chucker at heart. Good score on the GG#4,

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I also scored a Banner#3 as well.



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Sorry for thread jack OP.
 

tpc_mikey

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Dude just got the GG#4, don't tell me she herms? Was she from seed? I usually just mist them when I see nanners. I'll pick em if I wanna chuck but wait........
Why am I complaining? GG#4 pollen,hmmm. I guess I'll take it anyway I can. I'm a chucker at heart. Good score on the GG#4,

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I also scored a Banner#3 as well.



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Sorry for thread jack OP.
Yeah most seed banks have a disclaimer on there gg4 seeds stating that but who cares I hope I get seeds off mine I'll grow it again mine they about 100 nanners at the first few weeks of flower and have seen nothing since
 

Kileze

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where do the male chromosomes come from if it is a true feminized plant from a true female plant that has none?
Unfortunately it's not very simply explained (or even entirely understood). Keep in mind the goal of the plant is to ensure it's genetics live on, not to produce premium buds like we'd prefer. So retaining the ability to reproduce asexually in response to stressors (likelihood strain dependent) is like a built in survival contingency. Although most plants have flowers with both male and female sex organs, there are several thousands of plant species where male or female flowers form on different individuals (dioecious). Most cannabis plants are dioecious. Monoecious plants, often called hermaphrodites, though not always classified correctly, do exist. Surprisingly, the presence of well-established sex chromosomes in these dioecious plants is rare. The best-described example is white campion, for which large sex chromosomes have been identified and mapped partially. A recent study presented a comprehensive genetic and physical mapping of the genome of dioecious papaya. It revealed a short male specific region on the Y chromosome (MSY) that does not recombine with the X chromosome, providing strong evidence that the sex chromosomes originated from a regular pair of autosomes. The primitive papaya Y chromosome thus represents an early event in sex chromosome evolution. There's always more to know. Here's a link you may find interesting.
 

tstick

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I saved MANY GG#4 seeds from buds I bought on the commercial market. I assumed they were from late-flower 'nanners. At the time, I loved that strain and I was willing to take a chance on growing one or two of them along with my other stuff. The plant that I ended up with, produced some very stinky flowers...very oily and resinous as you would expect from GG#4....BUT, the growth characteristics of this particular phenotype showed long red stems with golfball size buds and almost no fan leaves -looked like I had lollipopped it, but I didn't!

I've grown bag seeds several times and it's been hit or miss. But, it's also hit or miss with many well-known seed banks, too. This last grow, I bought a pack of Chemdozer seeds from Archive and paid out the nose for them....BOTH plants showed some balls in early flower -which I picked off. As far as I can see, it never showed any more after that. I suspect that the Chem91 mother was the culprit -as the Chemdog story has its lineage in bag seed genetics, too.

I don't think it's uncommon for even the best genetics to throw some 'nanners. There are SO many complex hybrid plants now, most all the strains end up having some lineage to plants that have this trait to a greater or lesser degree.
 

Oldman13

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It will be the same strain but will likely hermie as well. Didn't try to reveg the original plant?

Would be worth growing it out as only about 1/3 of plants grown from seed like that will be full-blown hermies so you might get lucky and end up with a female that doesn't herm on you. Some herms will pop a few balls early then not show anymore.
I know this is an ancient article But I was replying because I don't understand why somebody here says just because That one seed came off of a hermaphrodite that most likely also will become hermaphrodite?
I mean by saying that are you saying that all feminized seeds are going to become hermaphrodites!
So why should anybody spend $20 a seed because it's feminized ? Most likely prices have come down now since recreational has been mistakenly legalized!
Which is pretty much destroying the medical portion of the industry but still!
Every now and then I get a hermaphrodite but the seeds that are feminized from the plant do not necessarily and a whole lot less than likely!
Ever become hermaphrodites majority of the time I get plenty of seedless bud with the exception of every now and then. I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything I just was curious on why somebody would say that just because the guy found a seeing what he believes is and hermaphrodite it most likely would be a hermaphrodite! And especially an old-time member...
When I first started cultivating I revegged my plants but with a limited amount of space I thought it was kind of cool but it was taking too damn long I'm assuming by reveg You mean regenerate after it buds nope too damn long it takes have a nice day
 

Oldman13

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He never said anything about the plant being feminized and feminized plants are notorious for going hermie so many experienced growers won't grow them. I never have.

If you get seed(s) from a bud grown from a feminized plant then it grew balls somewhere so you tell me where the male chromosome came from. I'm a chemist, not a geneticist. :)

I just know the basics of how genes work. To get into stabilizing a strain I'd have to have a good manual at hand and refer to it often to stay on the right track. Fun to do some pollen chucking and see what you get from various crosses tho.
Well you can't create a stabilized strain from feminized seed The only way you can create stabilized strains, I said stabilized strain is with bona fide real male and real female plants not feminized but you can create something strange and different then you we have a plant that is called clone only? Never really having honest to goodness stabilized seeds So if your clone only dies and you didn't clone your clone only then your clone only will no longer be only or lonely because it will disappear completely quite frankly
 
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