end of cycle techniques. e.g. flushing, leaching, boiling. ice drying .....etc

which technique do you like or like the idea of...

  • freezing your root zone (ice)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • boiling your rootzone (boiling water feed)

    Votes: 4 9.1%
  • leach (gradually reduce the nutes towards end)

    Votes: 12 27.3%
  • flush (just ph water 2 weeks before chop)

    Votes: 13 29.5%
  • none (nutes until chop day)

    Votes: 15 34.1%

  • Total voters
    44

Anth88

Member
hi. this post is for your end of cycle techniques.
this could be anything that you do or dint do towards the the end of flower and to your plants. you might flush or you might leach instead. you may add cool air and ice or you might prefer to boil your root zone to start fermentation early. this post is for every1s routines, ideas and theory.
 

xmatox

Well-Known Member
hi. this post is for your end of cycle techniques.
this could be anything that you do or dint do towards the the end of flower and to your plants. you might flush or you might leach instead. you may add cool air and ice or you might prefer to boil your root zone to start fermentation early. this post is for every1s routines, ideas and theory.
I use mountain dew, or the smoothie mix you get from costco. It makes the flavor really pop out :eyesmoke:
 

cindysid

Well-Known Member
I feed organic nutes right up to day of harvest. I'm not feeding for the plant's sake towards the end. I'm keeping my microbes well fed so they are ready to do their job with the next plant, since I reuse my soil. I've been using the same basic soil with amendments for over 18 months now, and it just gets better.
 

SouthCross

Well-Known Member
I never understood why cutting out fertilizer developed a better bud. The last two weeks is when the magic happens.

The first time I heard of flushing was when watching Cannabis Kid. The dude with the glasses at the shop did his sales pitch about the bud being flushed. Came across at bull$hit. Makes you wonder who came up with the idea of flushing.

Has anybody grow the same strain next to each other? One plant flushed the other fed till dead? Then had it tested for what people describe as a 'pop and sizzle'? Another phenomenon I've never experienced on private grown weed. Mexican rag weed, maybe sure. Nothing I've ever grown. Fed to the end.

Who started this flush $hit? Where's he or she at?
 

Anth88

Member
I have friends that swear by boiling there root zone. I've smoked it boiled. iced. flushed. I'm looking for different techniques to try myself. or to see if anybody else has come across any good techniques they use
 

ANC

Well-Known Member
Indoors I like to do 48 hours of darkness at the end of the cycle, to chow through some of the last nutrients left after flushing.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
I'm old enough to remember reading some of the first grow guides in the old message boards and pretty sure the boiling root technique was mentioned in a few but with a twist. You were instructed to boil the root after it was pulled then hung upside down to let the THC run into the plant, yup I did it ....bahaha.
 

MichiganMedGrower

Well-Known Member
I never understood why cutting out fertilizer developed a better bud. The last two weeks is when the magic happens.

The first time I heard of flushing was when watching Cannabis Kid. The dude with the glasses at the shop did his sales pitch about the bud being flushed. Came across at bull$hit. Makes you wonder who came up with the idea of flushing.

Has anybody grow the same strain next to each other? One plant flushed the other fed till dead? Then had it tested for what people describe as a 'pop and sizzle'? Another phenomenon I've never experienced on private grown weed. Mexican rag weed, maybe sure. Nothing I've ever grown. Fed to the end.

Who started this flush $hit? Where's he or she at?
The pop and sizzle is from smoking poorly dried weed. The myth is that it is nutrients left in the buds.

And I have done the side by sides every which way the forum and guides suggest.

Only plants grown healthy to the end have the highest quality and yield.
 

JDMase

Well-Known Member
The pop and sizzle is from smoking poorly dried weed. The myth is that it is nutrients left in the buds.

And I have done the side by sides every which way the forum and guides suggest.

Only plants grown healthy to the end have the highest quality and yield.
Do you think full nutrients till the end then? No autumn leaves just green till the chop? Im pretty sure ive seen people mention that no other industry flushes.. But saying that I don't know how I would be able to get over my nute lockouts or tox/def's any other way?
 

MichiganMedGrower

Well-Known Member
Do you think full nutrients till the end then? No autumn leaves just green till the chop? Im pretty sure ive seen people mention that no other industry flushes.. But saying that I don't know how I would be able to get over my nute lockouts or tox/def's any other way?
I ramp up the nutes as they need to stretch and transition and start building flowers then taper them back down as they ripen and need less.

I grow in ocean forest from sprout or clone so well water only as I transplant up through veg.

I only feed what I feel the plants need and once I start I feed mild each watering.

If I get it right they never need leaching and stay nice and medium green or turn purple or what their genetics want.

It ain't easy. I grow 8 different plants from seed or clone at a time a week apart usually so I mix individual feeds for each plant in flower as they need to be watered.

No schedules.
 

MichiganMedGrower

Well-Known Member
Hey @JDMase here is a plant at peak concentration. About half of the manufacturer directions at this point and is fed/watered every 2 days.

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She is still growing and stretching. I just had to tie down her stubborn supercropped tops. But if I stay at the max strength I ended up with her for too long she will start to show stress from the rising ec in the pot and the out of balance NPK and micros. (We feed the soil in a potting mix grow)

Note: the plant above shows a slight potassium deficiency. I had to raise her ec last feed. The low fans are thick and dark and curling down on the tips a bit.

So I watch the plants and I monitor the ec in and out the runoff each watering and make a note. I know it is not accurate but it is consistent if I take the reading the same way every time so I pull the first cup out and measure.

If it is rising higher than the input I lower the strength. If it keeps going down lower than the input they are likely hungry or some elements are missing and the soil will attract them.

When I fed the above plant the ec out was lower than what I had just put in. This means that the soil attracted the positive ions that are are minerals that we feed them.

Search for citation exchange or CEC for how elements work in a pot of mix.

Here is a mostly tapered off 9.5 week plant. She is almost done and her leaves are still mostly soft and happy and she has just about all of them. And the cmh can bring out great colors.

She needs the same concentration as the little veg plant she started flowering as now.

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JDMase

Well-Known Member
Hey @JDMase here is a plant at peak concentration. About half of the manufacturer directions at this point and is fed/watered every 2 days.

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She is still growing and stretching. I just had to tie down her stubborn supercropped tops. But if I stay at the max strength I ended up with her for too long she will start to show stress from the rising ec in the pot and the out of balance NPK and micros. (We feed the soil in a potting mix grow)

Note: the plant above shows a slight potassium deficiency. I had to raise her ec last feed. The low fans are thick and dark and curling down on the tips a bit.

So I watch the plants and I monitor the ec in and out the runoff each watering and make a note. I know it is not accurate but it is consistent if I take the reading the same way every time so I pull the first cup out and measure.

If it is rising higher than the input I lower the strength. If it keeps going down lower than the input they are likely hungry or some elements are missing and the soil will attract them.

When I fed the above plant the ec out was lower than what I had just put in. This means that the soil attracted the positive ions that are are minerals that we feed them.

Search for citation exchange or CEC for how elements work in a pot of mix.

Here is a mostly tapered off 9.5 week plant. She is almost done and her leaves are still mostly soft and happy and she has just about all of them. And the cmh can bring out great colors.

She needs the same concentration as the little veg plant she started flowering as now.

View attachment 3942693
Yeah do you know what, I reject the norm I want to grow this way! I can't think or find any other mention of people killing their crops before harvesting, and it just doesn't make sense to me.. Im goin green all the way to the end with my next lot, hopefully will increase my yields further. Thanks @MichiganMedGrower for the detailed response.
 

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
Lotta farms around here. I never heard of any farmer intentionally denying his crop the elements it needs to grow. Not in the beginning, not at any point in the grow cycle, and certainly not near the end. Why abuse and potentially jeopardize your crop after many weeks of nurturing it?
Because this is RIU and the motto here is "Starve your young and old plants"
 

MichiganMedGrower

Well-Known Member
When you boil the roots, the THC rises from the roots up into the crystals.... You will see the crystals rise up the stem slowly as soon as you start boiling... this indicates the highest level of THC.

THC comes from the roots!!

6 months on RM3 dot com and they couldn't convince me to boil my plants.

But your explanation has me putting a pot on the stove asap!

L O fucking L
 
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