Dogenzengi
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Thank You!Don't do it. Leaves don't block light. They use it.
Thank You!Don't do it. Leaves don't block light. They use it.
Uh huh. That is why cannabis is the only plant in the world that is grown for the purposes of maximum flower production where people cut off perfectly good photosynthetic vegetative growth because they think that crippling a plants ability to make food will result in improved yield.[/QUOTE
Bull shit.
Without proper technique this will cause more harm than good.
Defoilation is only helpful in certain situations and reccomending to a new grower is not advised.
I will say if the op tries it, it would be smart to trim one and leave one. Look and see the difference.
About the only time I cut a leaf is in thick canopies and mold is a risk or the leaf is dead already.
Unless it is a a scrog or other training with very thick canopy there is no need.
A pic would really help to see if it even needs it.
You kind of hit on something.OP,
Follow this guys advice and do a side by side, that is if you want to waste a plant.
Begginers should stick with kiss.
I will only remove a dead lead or a leaf that is pressed between two buds that could capture moisture and lead to mold.
Remember fan leaves are photosynthetic (create energy )
and
they transpire
( the plant sweats and breathes thru the leaves)
Thank you. +Rep. I always attempt to show pics and results with whatever my opinion may be. Because I do attempt things. Try different techniques. And none of that matters without the hard evidence to prove it.Thank you for your proof of concept. Not just talking, but showing this form needs more of you, happy growing.
Or ask someone like he tried to do and got 6 opinions lol. That's why I say to each his own. Find something that works for you as a grower. Maybe use others attempts successes and failures into account when building your technique.This we can agree on. I would assume OP would do his due diligence and research how before he went hacking away at his plant.
Completly agree... i often try to take the different opinions and try to tiangulate a balance between them as the starting point for finding my own techniqueOr ask someone like he tried to do and got 6 opinions lol. That's why I say to each his own. Find something that works for you as a grower. Maybe use others attempts successes and failures into account when building your technique.
Absolutely. I think a lot of growers asking questions on this site do not realize that they are the best judge when it comes to tending their plants. Whether they seek advice on these forums or not. So due diligence is needed when attempting anything new in your garden. With the truck loads of info available online for free. None should go uneducated to a point that they can make a decent call on their tending. Now not taking direction and being a cowboy will either end in disaster or a new technique for you to take advantage of. Your a smart fella.Completly agree... i often try to take the different opinions and try to tiangulate a balance between them as the starting point for finding my own technique
I'll upload photos from my very last defoil before harvest. I spread it out for about 20 days once I know I have no males or hermies to deal with. Found 1 Hermie this run and 1 very robust male. I do a little at a time each plant over the 20 days. I'm going to make a why TO defoil thread tomorrow. Very tired and have to get up early. I have thought about it all day and think I might have some un thought of questions. And I know some head scratchers for sure. Like I have been saying the whole thread. Things depends on the grower and depends on their courage and research. Happy Growing! And Cheers!Actually, there is a reason why defoliation works for some people and why it doesn't work for most.
It's got alot to do with lights and/or humidity.
BOOM!Actually, there is a reason why defoliation works for some people and why it doesn't work for most.
It's got alot to do with lights and/or humidity.
Ha knew it. Groweedesy is MY BIBLE The answer is there.Sweet baby Jesus so much misinformation with no backing, I shall instead point you towards proof. http://www.growweedeasy.com/marijuana-defoliation-tutorial
Rule of thumb and I have done it personally, remove no more than 3-5 blocking leaves a day after week 3-4. I go as far as removing weak @ss lower branches aka popcorns and see no I'll effects the plants just keep on growing.
MOST IMPORTANTLY your plants must be healthy to do this. No nutebruned to hell, sick or starving.
Yes sir. I do it the same except I plan ahead on the last defoil and take only small leafs that are eventually going to block bud sites. The 2 defoils before the last I take bigger not huge leafs that's are blocking up the space. I try and take the least healthy looking leafs but it ends up not to matter most everything is healthy.Ha knew it. Groweedesy is MY BIBLE The answer is there.
Nice... I'm more of a 9 blade fan leaf indica kinda guy, I shoot for quality and plenty of people here have taught me over the years that the more health your plant carries into late flower, the better the bud quality gets and so far i haven't been able to prove them wrong. No flushing & i feed to the end, most of my 7 gallon plants still have the starter leaves within the first 4 weeks of flower.I'll upload photos from my very last defoil before harvest. I spread it out for about 20 days once I know I have no males or hermies to deal with. Found 1 Hermie this run and 1 very robust male. I do a little at a time each plant over the 20 days. I'm going to make a why TO defoil thread tomorrow. Very tired and have to get up early. I have thought about it all day and think I might have some un thought of questions. And I know some head scratchers for sure. Like I have been saying the whole thread. Things depends on the grower and depends on their courage and research. Happy Growing! And Cheers!
On an after thought to your post. My room is 40 humid all the time with temps of 72 to 77 with the lights on and or off depending on when my cheap acs kick on. I clear way for bud sights and remove leafs so they can get direct light and maybe the plant will think hey I better grow buds before all my leafs are gone. If done over time I don't think much chance of Hermie. As I haven't had any in a good while until this crop and with doing it over 3 weeks I doubt there is any stress my plants don't miss a beat. Like I said lots of thought today and will follow through with a thread in the am.
Also seems like you are interested and know your stuff .
Flipped 16 days ago. So it's day 9 of bloom. 60 day veg. No nutes in 22 days. Starting bloom schedule tomorrow with the few that need watered and will continue with the others as they progresses through the week. If my plants are unhealthy and defoil is a terrible idea. Why do I do it? True miss out on about a lb of larf....so what. Every single bud site on the plants has a nicely grown bud no matter if it's 40 in from the light of 12.
Because there is no waste going to my larf. Every bud except about 2 buds per plants is nice hard dense bud. I recently left a site due to bs. And bs caused a hickup with freedom. But the lawyers have it figured out and it's only a matter of time before I'm worry free.
I understand larf and sugar leaf great for hash. I don't like the new hash it is to harsh. I like old school pressed Afghan hash. But that's me. I would rather smoke top cola chronic green pot. So to each his own ONCE again lol! Thanks for the chat like my slow brain getting excited sometimes!
I love trading war stories and having someone with knowledge to bounce things off of!
NAMESTE!
Sorry for edit noticed tons of spelling errors. Fairly medicated lol.
I feed until the last feeding then I flush with 5x pot volume and wait until droopy before I chop. I can't grow enough to be honest. If it isn't spoken for before hand. 1 step in a caregivers shop and it's gone in 10 mins legit or not. Top organic colas from seed make the strongest medicine in my experience.Nice... I'm more of a 9 blade fan leaf indica kinda guy, I shoot for quality and plenty of people here have taught me over the years that the more health your plant carries into late flower, the better the bud quality gets and so far i haven't been able to prove them wrong. No flushing & i feed to the end, most of my 7 gallon plants still have the starter leaves within the first 4 weeks of flower.
Have you ever tried that yet?
Flushing is a myth, bruh.I feed until the last feeding then I flush with 5x pot volume and wait until droopy before I chop. I can't grow enough to be honest. If it isn't spoken for before hand. 1 step in a caregivers shop and it's gone in 10 mins legit or not. Top organic colas from seed make the strongest medicine in my experience.
I found 9 blade leafs all over tonight. The happier the plant the more blades. I found a plant putting out even number leafs 6 and 8. Marked for reveg Incase it has retard strength. Last grow I had 11 slblade leafs. Searching for that elusive 13 blade lead off indoor!
Cheers and Happy Growing!
I know this. That is why I have made the same post you just did several times.Flushing is a myth, bruh.