How long to go?

[Ben20172017]

Hi guys just a quick question on when would you pull iv check tri's but most the hairs are orange or brown. Day 63 today (9th week)
Started the flush last night. Seeing some swell, tric's are mostly clear like 80% of them. Any advice would be good please.

 

[GreenBean 420]

Whew! Looking dank! I'm still a noob so I can't give you a timeframe ha but sick buds! That one with the white hairs looks like at least 3 weeks left tho? What strains. Wait till those trichs are mostly cloud with a bit of amber. Depending on the high you're looking for.

 

[lince]

Hello Ben,

Here is a picture that can help you understand the pistils maturation. I usually harvest when 50% of the pistils are brown.

If you harvest checking the trichomes, then you have to wait until most of them are cloudy and some amber.

 

[Dr. Who]

"FLUSH"?

What the fuck for? It doesn't really do anything! It's a myth!

Proper dry and cure...

Pics 1-3 maybe a week. Look for some ambering - IF the strain does it, and harvest then

Pic 4 Same plants as the first? Earlier pic? otherwise that one has more weeks to go

Pics 5-6 Pretty danged close - No ambers? None come in the next week or so. Then it's Done

Pics 7-8 Same as above

 

[Ben20172017]

"FLUSH"?

What the fuck for? It doesn't really do anything! It's a myth!

Proper dry and cure...

Pics 1-3 maybe a week. Look for some ambering - IF the strain does it, and harvest then

Pic 4 Same plants as the first? Earlier pic? otherwise that one has more weeks to go

Pics 5-6 Pretty danged close - No ambers? None come in the next week or so. Then it's Done

Pics 7-8 Same as above

Pic 4 is different to the reat i believe as was bag seeds and yeah no amber as of yet. And im flushing as every where iv read says its a good thing to do and il be drying and curing properly first grow so i want it to be the best it can be. Thank you

 

[Ben20172017]

Hello Ben,

Here is a picture that can help you understand the pistils maturation. I usually harvest when 50% of the pistils are brown.

If you harvest checking the trichomes, then you have to wait until most of them are cloudy and some amber.

Thanks its just getting annoying no i see most hairs are brown/ orange but tric's still clear

 

[Ben20172017]

Whew! Looking dank! I'm still a noob so I can't give you a timeframe ha but sick buds! That one with the white hairs looks like at least 3 weeks left tho? What strains. Wait till those trichs are mostly cloud with a bit of amber. Depending on the high you're looking for.

Hey man same me a noob too, thank iv worked my arse off with these babies and i am rather proud of them il be sad to see them chopped down.. but yeah that one plant looks like a while to go but the rest seem nearly done just dont wanna chop to early

 

[Dr. Who]

Pic 4 is different to the reat i believe as was bag seeds and yeah no amber as of yet. And im flushing as every where iv read says its a good thing to do and il be drying and curing properly first grow so i want it to be the best it can be. Thank you

Look man. Flushing removes nothing from the plant! It's impossible by the science of the plant!

Read this I wrote too.

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds,but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

Understanding better now? Bet I've been growing for longer then you've been alive.......You're removing nutrition at one of the plants most critical times.....the bulking stage....

BTW, flushing agents only "flush" money from your wallet....magazine "grow" writers hold the "flush" line because they would loose a ton of advertising dollars if they told the truth! Most nutrient makers make a :flushing" agent to simply have market share and make money.....They DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PLANTS!

Your plants look GREAT. Don't fail them now!

 

[Ben20172017]

Look man. Flushing removes nothing from the plant! It's impossible by the science of the plant!

Read this I wrote too.

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds,but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

Understanding better now? Bet I've been growing for longer then you've been alive.......You're removing nutrition at one of the plants most critical times.....the bulking stage....

BTW, flushing agents only "flush" money from your wallet....magazine "grow" writers hold the "flush" line because they would loose a ton of advertising dollars if they told the truth! Most nutrient makers make a :flushing" agent to simply have market share and make money.....They DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PLANTS!

Your plants look GREAT. Don't fail them now!

Thank you yes i have a better understanding and what you have said makes sense to me. I will carry on feeding them and keep going the way i have been thank you so much.

One last thing would it be possible to give me a time scale on these to be ready as the tric's are clear but 90% of the hairs have gone red/orange/brown. And like i say 63 days in now so should be coming up to harvest

 

[Dr. Who]

Thank you yes i have a better understanding and what you have said makes sense to me. I will carry on feeding them and keep going the way i have been thank you so much.

One last thing would it be possible to give me a time scale on these to be ready as the tric's are clear but 90% of the hairs have gone red/orange/brown. And like i say 63 days in now so should be coming up to harvest

Times given by breeder reports are a generality. For the most part - 2 weeks longer (or more) from their given time.

Many strains don't throw amber anymore! The calyx's are swelling nicely on Pics 5&6....a week maybe a bit more. Calyx swell and receded pistils are the best sign to harvest.....once the trich's are full cloudy.

What strains are they and I can better say if they'll amber at all......

1&2&3 are at least a week - 4 is a strong sativa base and it's going longer - lots, like 3-4 at least...

The other 2 strains are close.....look for ambers.

On any strain that does not amber - all cloudy is the time to go - as long as the calyx's have swollen!

 

[Ben20172017]

Times given by breeder reports are a generality. For the most part - 2 weeks longer (or more) from their given time.

Many strains don't throw amber anymore! The calyx's are swelling nicely on Pics 5&6....a week maybe a bit more. Calyx swell and receded pistils are the best sign to harvest.....once the trich's are full cloudy.

What strains are they and I can better say if they'll amber at all......

1&2&3 are at least a week - 4 is a strong sativa base and it's going longer - lots, like 3-4 at least...

The other 2 strains are close.....look for ambers.

On any strain that does not amber - all cloudy is the time to go - as long as the calyx's have swollen!

Thanks man really has helped me here and i dont know the strain my mate got them out of some bud he grinned up haha! He said it was some kind of skunk though

 

[Dr. Who]

An old school skunk, does amber......Longer runner too.

 

[Greenhouse;save]

Look man. Flushing removes nothing from the plant! It's impossible by the science of the plant!

Read this I wrote too.

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds,but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

Understanding better now? Bet I've been growing for longer then you've been alive.......You're removing nutrition at one of the plants most critical times.....the bulking stage....

BTW, flushing agents only "flush" money from your wallet....magazine "grow" writers hold the "flush" line because they would loose a ton of advertising dollars if they told the truth! Most nutrient makers make a :flushing" agent to simply have market share and make money.....They DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PLANTS!

Your plants look GREAT. Don't fail them now!

Great info doc ....