Bernie Sanders takedown of Trump's first 100 days

Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Grandpapy said:
There is an enemy out there we should learn their tactics.

"They therefore believe that their party ideology must be dynamic to safeguard the party's rule, unlike the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, whose ideology became "rigid, unimaginative, ossified, and disconnected from reality."
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They want to primary progressive Democrats who aren't "progressive-enough fast-enough" (in their opinion) in exchange for what are turning out to be no-name sure losers.

Obama in 8 years got a huge number of Red voters to accept gradual change (see Obamacare) because it was gradual.

People should vote the candidate they want, sure, but they also need to accept that sometimes shitting in the pool is regressive and gives Republicans an opportunity to wind back the progress we've made.
 
Padawanbater2

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SneekyNinja said:
They want to primary progressive Democrats who aren't "progressive-enough fast-enough" (in their opinion) in exchange for what are turning out to be no-name sure losers.

Obama in 8 years got a huge number of Red voters to accept gradual change (see Obamacare) because it was gradual.

People should vote the candidate they want, sure, but they also need to accept that sometimes shitting in the pool is regressive and gives Republicans an opportunity to wind back the progress we've made.
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Your strategy lost over 1,000 democratic seats during Obama's 8 years in office, the house, the senate, the majority of state legislatures and governorships. Please explain why you believe using the same strategy will win? Why would republican voters vote for a moderate democrat when they can just vote for the republican? Moderate democrats cannot beat republicans in deep red districts, but progressive democrats can. Progressives are stealing republican voters in droves by offering things that will actually help them like universal healthcare and college, each election so far they get within the margin of error after Trump won the district with a strong majority.
 
SneekyNinja

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Padawanbater2 said:
Your strategy lost over 1,000 democratic seats during Obama's 8 years in office, the house, the senate, the majority of state legislatures and governorships. Please explain why you believe using the same strategy will win? Why would republican voters vote for a moderate democrat when they can just vote for the republican? Moderate democrats cannot beat republicans in deep red districts, but progressive democrats can. Progressives are stealing republican voters in droves by offering things that will actually help them like universal healthcare and college, each election so far they get within the margin of error after Trump won the district with a strong majority.
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Naive.

You should try a career as a "professional", maybe you wouldn't be so whiney about minimum wage/welfare then?

(I support raising them too, but I ain't whining about it like you babies)

1000 seats...what a retarded Fox News figure to throw out.

You mean cumulatively? Not very exciting when you're honest about it, is it?
 
Justin-case

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SneekyNinja said:
Naive.

You should try a career as a "professional", maybe you wouldn't be so whiney about minimum wage/welfare then?

(I support raising them too, but I ain't whining about it like you babies)

1000 seats...what a retarded Fox News figure to throw out.

You mean cumulatively? Not very exciting when you're honest about it, is it?
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Justin-case

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Padawanbater2 said:
Why do you only criticize others positions without ever offering any of your own?

Trump won Montana by 21%, Quist came within 6% of winning
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I commend him on his campaign and message. But i did read some posts, not verifiable by any means, that said many didn't vote for Quist because of bernie. Which I find likely, because in these deep red States people seem to oppose paying higher taxes and government handouts.
 
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Padawanbater2

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SneekyNinja said:
You also just demonstrated why running on your own funding only doesn't work against Republicans...

Such geniuses, you Bernie Babies.
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Taking corporate bribes and PAC money has lost Democrats all positions of government. How do you feel you're in any position to gloat?

You are a loser as defined by your political strategy
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Your strategy lost over 1,000 democratic seats during Obama's 8 years in office, the house, the senate, the majority of state legislatures and governorships. Please explain why you believe using the same strategy will win? Why would republican voters vote for a moderate democrat when they can just vote for the republican? Moderate democrats cannot beat republicans in deep red districts, but progressive democrats can. Progressives are stealing republican voters in droves by offering things that will actually help them like universal healthcare and college, each election so far they get within the margin of error after Trump won the district with a strong majority.
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belief does not equal fact. Right wing propaganda has poisoned your mind.
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Establishment propaganda has poisoned yours
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Facts, dude. Been through this with @ttystikk and realized you two have drunk the koolaide. The democratic party is in full support of the effort to repeal the Citizen's United ruling but Bernie's babies will have none of it. You are carrying right wing politician's water by your vile lies. Fact: Every democratic party senator supported Bernie's bill to amend the Constitution to repeal CU and were foiled by Republican filibuster.

You guys dismiss the facts recorded in the Congressional Record. Assholes like you are the reason we now have Trump. Assholes like you are going to make Democrats re-taking congress in 2018 unlikely. You wear blue and spew red lies.
 
UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
We refuse to support a losing political strategy.
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funny, you didn't mind supporting:

bernie sanders (lost)
tim canova (lost)
zephyr teachout (lost)
russ feingold (lost)
rob quist (lost)
james thompson (lost)
amendment 69 (lost)
heath mello (lost)

is there anyone or anything bernie has endorsed who has actually won something?
 
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