Bernie Sanders takedown of Trump's first 100 days

[Grandpapy]

If an association such as Trumps has can get in the White House without a background check it's kinda hard not to say Russia has it hands all over the place.
As far Montana, (this is just a guess) JOBS! they will frack the shit out of it to sell to China.

 

[Fogdog]

Quist was outspent by almost 10 to 1 yet came within 6 points of winning...

But we're losers.

Where exactly was the fucking Democratic Party in this special election?! Same story in all the races across the country!

They had the money, they sat on it because they don't want the people to realize they actually have a choice.

You want to know why I don't trust Democrats, @Fogdog @UncleBuck ? Look at how much they spent on all these special elections; JACK SHIT. THAT message is coming through loud and clear and you idiots want to call US naive?!

Some people who just might know more than you didn't go all in on races where they decided there was no chance of winning. If they had outspent Republicans and lost you would have a better right to bitch.

 

[ttystikk]

Some people who just might know more than you didn't go all in on races where they decided there was no chance of winning. If they had outspent Republicans and lost you would have a better right to bitch.

They had their chances. Actions speak louder than words.

Holy fuck, it's not like the Dems aren't behind and dropping back. WTF are they waiting for?

It's exactly this kind of shit that tells me the Democrats understand their new job, as told to them by their corporate owner/donors; 'don't let the left get a foothold.'

 

[Fogdog]

Actions speak louder than words.

True that.

Did you know that every Democratic Senator took action to support the repeal of CU in 2014?

Oh but that action isn't important to you.

In fact, the DNC action was to conserve donations for the real fights, not ones deep in red country.

 

[Grandpapy]

Apologies but I fail to see how private funds and public funds are the same thing?

You've never been disrespectful to me so I can happily and respectfully agree to disagree because I think it's a subjective thing.

Sorry been working on a nice gg4 cross.
We "corporations" use to provide funding for wheelchairs, sidewalks and clean water. It looks like that money now goes to Lobbying.

 

[ttystikk]

True that.

Did you know that every Democratic Senator took action to support the repeal of CU in 2014?

Oh but that action isn't important to you.

In fact, the DNC action was to conserve donations for the real fights, not ones deep in red country.

That's the only piece of data you have to support your claim, yet you're stuck to it like religion. I've shown all kinds of instances that put the lie to the Democratic 'willingness' to embrace the direction of their constituents.

Now you're just spamming empty propaganda.

 

[ttystikk]

Sorry been working on a nice gg4 cross.
We "corporations" use to provide funding for wheelchairs, sidewalks and clean water. It looks like that money now goes to Lobbying.

And hellfire missiles for drone strikes.
And tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

 

[SneekyNinja]

He was outspent by almost 10 to 1, yet came within 6 points of winning.

The Democratic Party wanted to make an example of him and all the rest of the Progressive candidates during this special election, to point at them and say it's not a viable strategy.

They're throwing Progressives under the bus because they'd rather lose elections than give up control of the party and the money that comes with it.

This is why millions of Americans are forming their own political action organizations, from Justice Democrats to Represent.us. I see the beginning of a tsunami that will either wipe out or subsume the Democratic Party, if the Dems don't get with the progressive program.

So let me get this straight...

Hillary smashed Bernie in the primary by 12% and smashed Trump by 3% and she's a loser...

Some Justice Cuck loses by 6% and they're a total winner?

You've lost your mind.

 

[Fogdog]

That's the only piece of data you have to support your claim, yet you're stuck to it like religion. I've shown all kinds of instances that put the lie to the Democratic 'willingness' to embrace the direction of their constituents.

Now you're just spamming empty propaganda.

So, I shouldn't judge Hillary Clinton based upon what she did when she voted in support of the Iraq war? It was an important factor when I chose to support Sanders during the primary.

I shouldn't judge Trump based upon his actions since taking office? Flynn, Muslim Ban, repeal of ACA, expansion if ICE

I disagree

We can judge a leader by what they do. This is the best way. A senator's vote is one of those.

Different topic:

Have Justice Democrats won any elections?

Back to the question on "corrupt CU supporting Democratic Party". Please post facts to support your position that Democrats support unlimited campaign finance corruption. Fact, not your belief or another stupid u-tube diatribe from Uygur or that other mealy mouthed windbag. Something substantial as a vote in the Senate will do.

 

[Padawanbater2]

It's easy to support something when you know it doesn't have a chance of being passed. The real test is when Democrats hold power. The last time they held power, they were barely able to get a watered down version of healthcare when they could have fought for single payer.

 

[ttystikk]

So, I shouldn't judge Hillary Clinton based upon what she did when she voted in support of the Iraq war? It was an important factor when I chose to support Sanders during the primary.

I shouldn't judge Trump based upon his actions since taking office? Flynn, Muslim Ban, repeal of ACA, expansion if ICE

I disagree

We can judge a leader by what they do. This is the best way. A senator's vote is one of those.

Different topic:

Have Justice Democrats won any elections?

Back to the question on "corrupt CU supporting Democratic Party". Please post facts to support your position that Democrats support unlimited campaign finance corruption. Fact, not your belief or another stupid u-tube diatribe from Uygur or that other mealy mouthed windbag. Something substantial as a vote in the Senate will do.

Pad's answer above speaks for me as well.

I've said as much before and you didn't listen then, either.

 

[ttystikk]

So, I shouldn't judge Hillary Clinton based upon what she did when she voted in support of the Iraq war? It was an important factor when I chose to support Sanders during the primary.

I shouldn't judge Trump based upon his actions since taking office? Flynn, Muslim Ban, repeal of ACA, expansion if ICE

I disagree

We can judge a leader by what they do. This is the best way. A senator's vote is one of those.

Different topic:

Have Justice Democrats won any elections?

Back to the question on "corrupt CU supporting Democratic Party". Please post facts to support your position that Democrats support unlimited campaign finance corruption. Fact, not your belief or another stupid u-tube diatribe from Uygur or that other mealy mouthed windbag. Something substantial as a vote in the Senate will do.

Well, here's a guy who knows exactly why Mrs Clinton didn't get elected;

The whole thing is hysterical, but the last minute or two is very, very telling.

Enjoy!

 

[Fogdog]

It's easy to support something when you know it doesn't have a chance of being passed. The real test is when Democrats hold power. The last time they held power, they were barely able to get a watered down version of healthcare when they could have fought for single payer.

bullshit. You spin tales as if you knew something. Try convincing me with facts and I'll listen. Fake conspiracy theories don't hold water.

The ACA was and still is a bridge to the kind of healthcare we both want. So, try something that actually proves your point. Tell me what actions I should examine that will convince me Democrats are as corrupt as Republicans or that a third party is the only solution or whatever else you disagree with me. Facts. Substantiated documented facts. I'll listen to you if you can stick to them. I find the liberal left is as full of shit as the hard right.

 

[Fogdog]

Pad's answer above speaks for me as well.

I've said as much before and you didn't listen then, either.

Then you don't speak, you lie. I don't listen to lies. Or try not to. Until you can speak using facts and not belief, you are correct that trying to argue with somebody who stands with facts when debating is a waste of time. You lose every time. Just like the "Sanders" faction of the left. But "Sanders faction" is a misnomer. Even Sanders didn't stand with you and your weak minded faction. He stood for unity with the Democratic party.

 

[UncleBuck]

bullshit. You spin tales as if you knew something. Try convincing me with facts and I'll listen. Fake conspiracy theories don't hold water.

The ACA was and still is a bridge to the kind of healthcare we both want. So, try something that actually proves your point. Tell me what actions I should examine that will convince me Democrats are as corrupt as Republicans or that a third party is the only solution or whatever else you disagree with me. Facts. Substantiated documented facts. I'll listen to you if you can stick to them. I find the liberal left is as full of shit as the hard right.

just imagine the type of healthcare bill pada and tty's new party could pass into law with their [checks the roster] two house members from disparate districts.

 

[Fogdog]

just imagine the type of healthcare bill pada and tty's new party could pass into law with their [checks the roster] two house members from disparate districts.

There are two? Who are they? I've searched looking for "Justice Democrat win seats in congress" and come up blank.

 

[UncleBuck]

There are two? Who are they? I've searched looking for "Justice Democrat win seats in congress" and come up blank.

i'm using my imagination. i'm giving them tulsi gabbard and one other rep.

 

[Padawanbater2]

bullshit. You spin tales as if you knew something. Try convincing me with facts and I'll listen. Fake conspiracy theories don't hold water.

The ACA was and still is a bridge to the kind of healthcare we both want. So, try something that actually proves your point. Tell me what actions I should examine that will convince me Democrats are as corrupt as Republicans or that a third party is the only solution or whatever else you disagree with me. Facts. Substantiated documented facts. I'll listen to you if you can stick to them. I find the liberal left is as full of shit as the hard right.

It's evident you're not interested in facts. You can't admit the unethical behavior of the DNC during the democratic primary or the corruption of Obama accepting $400K from Wall Street. I'm not interested in convincing you of anything. You're a lost cause. We're in the process of recruiting dozens of people for every one of you. People like you and Buck make up 8% of the Democratic party. 85% of the party has a favorable view of Sanders.

You're out of touch with average American voters

 

[UncleBuck]

i am actually one of the 85% that likes sanders.

not so crazy over the conspiracy theorist wingnuts on the far left who crucify obama for getting paid to give speeches though. those are the retards who don't realize that shitting on our first black president is not a good way to win a democratic primary full of black voters.

 

[Padawanbater2]

i am actually one of the 85% that likes sanders.

not so crazy over the conspiracy theorist wingnuts on the far left who crucify obama for getting paid to give speeches though. those are the retards who don't realize that shitting on our first black president is not a good way to win a democratic primary full of black voters.

Nothing you say warrants serious consideration