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PetFlora

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What about 3% at drug store? On the 30% Hydrogen peroxide 1 to 10 - I assume 10 parts water. You work undersides of the leaves with sprayer? How late into flower can you spray? Do you cover your soil?

Anything you can water in afterwards or spray 3 weeks in flower to perk the plants back up? Thanks. :grin:
3% may be too weak. Yes, 10 parts water. The underside is where the bugs tend to hide. Does not harm the buds. Read up on h2o2
 

SaltyNuts

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better to mix your own dilution as the store bought contains sodium benzoate preservative which may not be good for the plants. test on a small area first. As usual it's better to spray before dark cycle to avoid hot spots from the lights.

btw the new enzyme products are very effective at controlling or even eliminating mites and insects, as well as fungus. "Big Time Exterminator" from BigTimeZyme is very good, very concentrated. formula. Good for soild drench and foliar spray.
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

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better to mix your own dilution as the store bought contains sodium benzoate preservative which may not be good for the plants. test on a small area first. As usual it's better to spray before dark cycle to avoid hot spots from the lights.

btw the new enzyme products are very effective at controlling or even eliminating mites and insects, as well as fungus. "Big Time Exterminator" from BigTimeZyme is very good, very concentrated. formula. Good for soild drench and foliar spray.
Many thanks. Some of the stuff that has come out in just the past six months is pretty amazing with enzymes, spores, fungi. Pretty incredible. Big Time looks pretty good.
 
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MMJ Dreaming 99

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3% may be too weak. Yes, 10 parts water. The underside is where the bugs tend to hide. Does not harm the buds. Read up on h2o2
Good for Russet mites and eggs too?

Did you even add a little sugar or molasses to the mix to make it a bit stickier. Others have mentioned this with hydrogen peroxide but the sugar/molasses being ingested by motes and blowing up part is supposedly a myth. Thanks.
 

ttystikk

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Good for Russet mites and eggs too?

Did you even add a little sugar or molasses to the mix to make it a bit stickier. Others have mentioned this with hydrogen peroxide but the sugar/molasses being ingested by motes and blowing up part is supposedly a myth. Thanks.
Russet mites need another mix entirely.
 

SaltyNuts

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You might be able to get by quite well by alternating h202 and enzymes, and it can help you get the space as clean as you can, organically. You can spray h202 and enzymes on walls, floors, and other surfaces too; trays, etc.... helps kill stray eggs, etc and also suppress bacteria and fungi
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

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You might be able to get by quite well by alternating h202 and enzymes, and it can help you get the space as clean as you can, organically. You can spray h202 and enzymes on walls, floors, and other surfaces too; trays, etc.... helps kill stray eggs, etc and also suppress bacteria and fungi
Enzymes like from Big Time Exterminator?

Those spores in BB creep me out like Alien.
 

SaltyNuts

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Enzymes like from Big Time Exterminator?

Those spores in BB creep me out like Alien.
Big Time Exterminator is showing very well. It's very concentrated. Seems very effective at wiping out soil-born bugs and even spider mites. Follow the mixing directions on the label.
PS: Don't forget about timing a wettable-sulfur spray in veg. Cure for powdery mildew and an old-school control for mites. (So far there's no bad reaction between the sulfur and the enzymes when sprayed a week apart.)
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

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Big Time Exterminator is showing very well. It's very concentrated. Seems very effective at wiping out soil-born bugs and even spider mites. Follow the mixing directions on the label.
PS: Don't forget about timing a wettable-sulfur spray in veg. Cure for powdery mildew and an old-school control for mites. (So far there's no bad reaction between the sulfur and the enzymes when sprayed a week apart.)
Thanks. Just got my quart in th email. I spoke to the guy in Santa Rosa who makes it and young guy in So Cal who ships it. Good guys. I bought off their web site with 15% off coupon. Looks good.

I will do my soil drench - if it handles soil gnats it is a God-send. Also if it nukes spider and russet mites up to harvest as advertised an even bigger deal.

In the sulfur - is it a powder? I know there are bug products with sulfur. I am also using powdered silica during veg as a spray. The powdered supposedly will leave microscopic shards of silica like Dia Earth to cut bugs up.
 

SaltyNuts

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hmm, be careful with silica powder, if it's the wrong kind it will mess up your lungs real bad, like cancer. For example there's two types of diatomaceous earth, one is food grade and one is mostly used for swimming pool filters, and it can kill you.

The sulfur I like is Bonide brand wettable powder.

Good luck with the enzymes!
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

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hmm, be careful with silica powder, if it's the wrong kind it will mess up your lungs real bad, like cancer. For example there's two types of diatomaceous earth, one is food grade and one is mostly used for swimming pool filters, and it can kill you.

The sulfur I like is Bonide brand wettable powder.

Good luck with the enzymes!
Thanks. This is the silica I use. They say it is safe for foliar spray.
http://www.mbferts.com/Agsil-16H-Potassium-Silicate-Soluble-Silica-Powder-545.htm

Yeah Dia Earth is dangerous. Even food grade can be dangerous.
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

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hmm, be careful with silica powder, if it's the wrong kind it will mess up your lungs real bad, like cancer. For example there's two types of diatomaceous earth, one is food grade and one is mostly used for swimming pool filters, and it can kill you.

The sulfur I like is Bonide brand wettable powder.

Good luck with the enzymes!
BTE made short work of the soil gnats and you only need to use a tiny amount. The flying gnats hung around for a little but they are pretty much gone now too. I guess they knew laying eggs was a waste of time or they tried and died. BTE ingredients are safe. I have not used that spore stuff from the other company.

Big Time Exter should be in everyone's arsenal against spider and russet mites. I will use it as a weekly preventative too. You can use it up to harvest as well. Thanks again.
 

Budley Doright

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H2O2 works wonders, non toxic, unless sprayed at too strong a strength. I buy30-40% from beauty supply and dilute ~ 1:10. You have to repeat a couple times to get the hatched eggs, but the residue is just water
Older post but you probably would want to stop using cosmetic grade ..... it has stabilizers :(. Also do you use v-40? If yes it's not 40% and doubt there is a 40% that is sold to them. Sorry, just had to clarify, girlfriends a hair stylist ;).
 

PetFlora

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Older post but you probably would want to stop using cosmetic grade ..... it has stabilizers :(. Also do you use v-40? If yes it's not 40% and doubt there is a 40% that is sold to them. Sorry, just had to clarify, girlfriends a hair stylist ;).
I know, but food grade is expensive due to hazardous materials

IME not a big deal when used a few times to spray plant bugs
 
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