China controls Commerce. (Bush-you are either with us or with the enemy. He was talking to the Corp world.) China is Big Oil's biggest customer.
It's extremely unlikely that the US is going to unleash a preemptive nuclear strike against NK and at the first sign of an invasion you can bet NK will fire all guns on Seoul.
How much of that artillery and such even still works? It's probably from the 1950's or something.It's extremely unlikely that the US is going to unleash a preemptive nuclear strike against NK and at the first sign of an invasion you can bet NK will fire all guns on Seoul.
Dave H. Kim, Seoul resident; I research Korean foreign and security policy.
Answered 9 Aug 2016
Due to its reclusiveness and isolation from most of the global community, gathering intelligence on North Korea and estimating North Korea’s military capabilities is very difficult. Having said that, numerous analysts and think tanks have estimated several thousand artillery pieces—includes 130 mm, 170 mm and 240 mm artillery with a range of 27-plus km or more—to be near the DMZ and within striking distance of metropolitan Seoul. Higher estimates go well above 10,000 pieces. When we include rocket launchers, surface-to-surface missiles, and short-range ballistic missiles, the numbers are much, much higher.
So what do these mean? Calculations have been done that suggested well over 10,000 artillery rounds and potentially 4,000 long-range artillery rounds could be fired at Seoul per minute. Many thousands of massive rockets could also be fired by multiple rocket launchers (MRLs) before quickly retreating into underground hiding places. Even with lower estimates, when one includes North Korea’s Scud-B/Scud-C variants, Nodong and Musudan ballistic missiles and other missiles, Seoul is effective a city held hostage, and North Korea doesn’t need to worry about an invasion any time soon. It also means North Korea’s “legitimate reason” for pursuing nuclear weapons—the need to deter U.S. nuclear threat with its own nuclear deterrent—is simply a poor excuse and pretext to do as it wants.
A great place start learning more on the above is The Changing Military Balance in the Koreas and NE Asia (2015) by Anthony Cordesman.
The funny thing is that artillery pieces used to be larger and easier to maintain.
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Nice cop-out. You have no evidence or argument but at least you have condescension! Moron.
Any country that can produce a nuclear weapon can probably keep conventional weapons in working condition. I wouldn't want to be the guy responsible for gambling with millions of lives and losing. Would you?
So what about Obama??
They are always using that artillery for practice and I'm sure they have the newer shit from China and Russia. I seen one documentary about North Korean labor camps in Russia they were just logging but they had real nice equipment like American loggers.
Probly all cold war era Russian pieces.
All our military shit is protected from EMP we can still destroy the world without a power grid. NATO as well puts a huge whole in the Russian take over theory. We have bases in Italy, Germany and Japan and Guam, Alaska, Hawaii probably more Guantanamo Bay CubaIf the US decides to hit NK first to protect the "Fatherland" and a few million brown people die in the process half the world away I doubt that will matter much except for the political fallout. Still lots better than radioactive fallout.
The worst part of NK getting a missile to the mainland isn't the city it might wipe out but the electromagnetic pulse that could knock down the house of cards known as the electrical grid. That could knock out power to the whole lower 48 that could take years to repair and the resulting chaos would do way more damage than a dozen nukes from NK.
One mustn't overlook the fact that Russia has been busy modernizing it's military and building up it's armaments quietly in the background. For what purpose? A crippled Amerika would be easier pickings for a power hungry Putin eager to make the USSR great again. Stay tuned for more developments on that front.
TLDR version: tampedo is literally retarded.All our military shit is protected from EMP we can still destroy the world without a power grid. NATO as well puts a huge whole in the Russian take over theory. We have bases in Italy, Germany and Japan and Guam, Alaska, Hawaii probably more Guantanamo Bay Cuba
It will suck without power sure but I have a generator as do many others a lot of stores, hospitals, government buildings. We will still have freezers, ice will be available. Plenty of water in most of the country but the deserts will really suck but water will be shipped in thanks to FEMA I'm sure the National guards and fire departments will have plenty water until FEMA arrives.
If anything America will become stronger after an EMP atteck.
My only logical fear of North Korea is for South Koreans and Japanese along with our troops in the region they have proved they could nuke Japan that's about it. Of course they can sneak a couple sub's close enough to lob a few nukes at us but most will be shot down and we will MOAB the shit out of them showing the world our might by not even retaliating with nukes.
We have no reason to invade NK unless they use nukes. They would be better off sneaking in weaponized Bird Flu but preferably something we don't already know about like the zombie virus.
Not to mention all the nuclear missil submarines we have around the world and our naval armadas. Russia would still get destroyedAll our military shit is protected from EMP we can still destroy the world without a power grid. NATO as well puts a huge whole in the Russian take over theory. We have bases in Italy, Germany and Japan and Guam, Alaska, Hawaii probably more Guantanamo Bay Cuba
It will suck without power sure but I have a generator as do many others a lot of stores, hospitals, government buildings. We will still have freezers, ice will be available. Plenty of water in most of the country but the deserts will really suck but water will be shipped in thanks to FEMA I'm sure the National guards and fire departments will have plenty water until FEMA arrives.
If anything America will become stronger after an EMP atteck.
My only logical fear of North Korea is for South Koreans and Japanese along with our troops in the region they have proved they could nuke Japan that's about it. Of course they can sneak a couple sub's close enough to lob a few nukes at us but most will be shot down and we will MOAB the shit out of them showing the world our might by not even retaliating with nukes.
We have no reason to invade NK unless they use nukes. They would be better off sneaking in weaponized Bird Flu but preferably something we don't already know about like the zombie virus.
Not if Russia's in the WH, remember that still functional air field in Syria?
Really? The most you can do to an airfield with bombs is put some craters in it that can be filled back in the next day.
True im a veteran we swore an oath to the constitution not the president.
It's what ended the Cold War. If it happens it happens dinosaurs had their time if we are dumb enough our time will end sooner than planned by the cosmos. Earth will survive life will begin again we are all going to die anyways.