US Paid $1B to Green Climate Fund, Top Polluters Paid $0
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Justin-case
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Someday, hopefully both.
SneekyNinja
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Most utilities will not buy your excess, they'll tie you in one way only. Useful as a backup but batteries are still the done way, even lead acids.
ArcticGranite
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Got over to my neighbors and visited about there rooftop solar array. It's an 8 KW setup, each panel has its own converter. Cost $28K, they claim to have gotten a $7K "rebate". I'm unsure if this was a straight refund or tax write off. Either way assume $21K cost.
I know from them and speaking with other dealers in the area this was the cheapest installed cost.
They have run for exactly 1 year to the day. Have produced 6710 KWH. No excess sold back, all household consumed.
6710 kWh x 0.20 (per current utility kWh cost) = $1342
$21K/$1342= 15.5 year payoff!
I know from them and speaking with other dealers in the area this was the cheapest installed cost.
They have run for exactly 1 year to the day. Have produced 6710 KWH. No excess sold back, all household consumed.
6710 kWh x 0.20 (per current utility kWh cost) = $1342
$21K/$1342= 15.5 year payoff!
SneekyNinja
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They only got 6710kWh in a year with an 8kW array...?
Is it covered in shit or something?
Justin-case
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I did an array where the client (crazy grower) insisted it didnt feed back to pg and e ?
It was a pain in the ass, he had conduits everywhere, some even had tees, lmao.
He could charge his batteries off the grid, solar or a generator. I heard he ended up smoking some equipment, operator error.
@ttystikk Here's a pic of a late friend and a former boss working on what looks like a forty eight volt off grid system, probably early 2000's.
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SneekyNinja
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Most utilities will give you a line in but won't pay anything for any excess you produce.
When you think about it there's loads of ways to isolate the supplies, even digitally controlled.
It's an exciting time to be alive.
When you think about it conservatively (I'm toasted so excuse any mistakes), an 8kWh array running at 90% output for only 8 hours a day is 57.6kWh, most households might use 2kW/h on average across the day (48kWh).
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Justin-case
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Yeah, with the smart meter\grid it all seems plausible now. Eventually the utility's hands will pushed to buy or produce more power with renewables.
ttystikk
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Cool! Great memories, huh?
Solar is ready for prime time. It's been iterated again and again, the basics are solid, the economics are good.
An electric car is its own savings, and running it with your own solar power just adds to that.
ttystikk
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They're just trying to hang onto their monopoly. Their hands will be forced soon enough as it just makes more sense to grid tie customer site solar all the way round.
Justin-case
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Always, never a dull moment. I've been fortunate to have worked with some the best.
twostrokenut
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perhaps funding Europe's militaries isn't the wisest move for us then under you sides theory that wealth is a limited pie.
SneekyNinja
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You doing electrical installations?
That's pretty cool, I'm more of a DC guy myself...have alot of fear/respect for the guys handling that 8kW+ AC shit daily.
twostrokenut
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I thought pg&e would buy at a severely discounted rate.
Justin-case
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Mostly residential, as cool as the solar installations were, traveling gets old. My old boss always said the batteries are the most dangerous, no off switch, lol.
Justin-case
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Credit only
ttystikk
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Both assertions are wildly wrong and betray your wilful stupidity.
UncleBuck
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oh, so you are the retard who thinks bin laden died in 2004 and bush forgot to take credit for it.
that's even nuttier than the other guy who thought that the IRS was gonna imprison you for obamacare.
UncleBuck
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why does your image show nothing whatsoever related to your original claim at all?Those were subsidy per energy unit numbers dollar/megawatt hour. Which energy sources would survive without subsidies at all is the interesting question.
it's almost as if you are some kind of inveterate liar who just makes shit up all the time.
UncleBuck
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parroting trump talking points to change the subject from your abject failure in the subject at hand is stupid. in other words, it is what we expect from you.