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The Green Rush Debunked
With the passage of Prop 64, there is a feeding frenzy here in California. Everyone is trying to jump on the bandwagon thinking they will get a piece of the pie. This article is written more as the do and don't and I encourage others to share their own tips.
1) Craigslist..... Just don't
There are a wide variety of scam artists on Craigslist promising a great deal of things. "I will find you a space--I have investors, I have realtors... Just pay 2500.00 if you are serious"
The fact is-- Warehouses currently are going for 150 times the market rate in places like adelanto, lynwood, and other places where the Cities have begun rolling out their implementation of Prop 64. However, the big issue is that the State will not be even giving out licenses till January 2018 at earliest, and wont even begin to take applications til around October or November.
Anyone can apply for a license in one of the tiers however, the process will be akin to opening a restaurant and will require near medical grade environments. Hence, opening a grow op in things like the back of a trailor, a grow pod, or a poorly constructed warehouse won't cut it.
Retail centers and zoning are also off limits and prohibitive. The fact is everything will be based on a track and trace and it is my opinion that most large scale operations will opt out in the beginning. Opting to stay underground until things get fleshed out.
Yes, there will be raids and yes, there will be prohibitions on dispensaries buying black market products. However, this has never stopped anyone. There is absolutely no green rush. The fact is MJ has been a cash crop since at least 1994 or even earlier. The top strains and the top growers don't deal with the General Public therefore in an earnest attempt the state wishes to now tax what isn't Federally legal and hope that growers who have been for decades under ground will finally open up their locations (many hidden in plain sight) with the idea of going legal and taxed.
Which brings me back to my point, no serious grower will ever post a Craigslist add selling their top end clones for 5 dollars.
I often laugh when I read these Craigslist posts. Sure, the post some crap about Prop 215 and that you have to be a Medical Patient etc. But coveted strains of top genetics are not shared for 5 bucks. Its a joke.
I actually bought a gavita 1000w de for 125 dollars off of Craigslist from a Teenage kid who said he tried his hand at growing some clones that he bought off Craigslist. He said everything was going great. He bought top gear and thought "Im gonna make some money". Moral of the story, he grew powdery mildew with a side of Spider Mites. I got to buy his light and a bottle of Rubbing Alcohol to clean it.
Growing is not hard. However, it takes more than just light and dirt. It takes dedication. Which cant be bought for five dollars on a classified.
With that being said, there is no Green Rush, the market has been flooded with top quality for years. Think to yourself? Why would it be any different now? Prices use to be 4000 wholesale, now they are 2000 wholesale for top quality. At what point will those prices go down to where it will not even make sense to grow with the cost of nutes, electricity, water, and co2. Sadly, I believe this will not be long. Even outdoor will also hit a phase where it makes no sense to grow even in mass crap quantity.
DO
Do continue growing, but understand that the best way to cash in on the Green Rush is not growing per se but rather mentoring or setting up others. This has always been the best way to make money. You charge someone nothing up front. You simply consult through the first harvest and work hands on with someone till they make money for a percentage. If you have contacts for distribution, this is where the real money can be made. Acting as a go between. The fact is, with so many people jumping on this train, they have no ability to sell it. I have a friend who owns a licenced Prop d compliant dispensary. No, he will not buy your weed that you grew in a shed.
Dont
Dont use cancer causing cure alls. Things like eagle 20 or phospholoads are dangerous. You can also be prosecuted if someone dies from smoking your weed that you decided to put ortho on to kill a few spider mites (Yes they can and will trace it, if someone is actually harmed). The fact is there is not a single dollar that is worth hurting someone. Plus this just fuels the Governments agenda on why legalization should never occur.
Dont give anyone money to find you a property. This is just bullshit...
Dont buy clones from a parking lot. The fact is, no serious grower will share a clone of top grade quality and genetics. If you do buy a clone, know that what you are buying is B grade at best.
Dont brag about being a grower. This is just stupid. No its NOT LEGAL in California yet. Its technically legal to grow 6 plants indoor. But Federally its still a felony. DONT BE STUPID.
Do make your voice heard by going to meetings at State Agency's to voice what you expect of these tax payer based agencies that will be implementing the laws to share what you think .....
If anyone else has any comments Id love to hear them
The Green Rush Debunked
With the passage of Prop 64, there is a feeding frenzy here in California. Everyone is trying to jump on the bandwagon thinking they will get a piece of the pie. This article is written more as the do and don't and I encourage others to share their own tips.
1) Craigslist..... Just don't
There are a wide variety of scam artists on Craigslist promising a great deal of things. "I will find you a space--I have investors, I have realtors... Just pay 2500.00 if you are serious"
The fact is-- Warehouses currently are going for 150 times the market rate in places like adelanto, lynwood, and other places where the Cities have begun rolling out their implementation of Prop 64. However, the big issue is that the State will not be even giving out licenses till January 2018 at earliest, and wont even begin to take applications til around October or November.
Anyone can apply for a license in one of the tiers however, the process will be akin to opening a restaurant and will require near medical grade environments. Hence, opening a grow op in things like the back of a trailor, a grow pod, or a poorly constructed warehouse won't cut it.
Retail centers and zoning are also off limits and prohibitive. The fact is everything will be based on a track and trace and it is my opinion that most large scale operations will opt out in the beginning. Opting to stay underground until things get fleshed out.
Yes, there will be raids and yes, there will be prohibitions on dispensaries buying black market products. However, this has never stopped anyone. There is absolutely no green rush. The fact is MJ has been a cash crop since at least 1994 or even earlier. The top strains and the top growers don't deal with the General Public therefore in an earnest attempt the state wishes to now tax what isn't Federally legal and hope that growers who have been for decades under ground will finally open up their locations (many hidden in plain sight) with the idea of going legal and taxed.
Which brings me back to my point, no serious grower will ever post a Craigslist add selling their top end clones for 5 dollars.
I often laugh when I read these Craigslist posts. Sure, the post some crap about Prop 215 and that you have to be a Medical Patient etc. But coveted strains of top genetics are not shared for 5 bucks. Its a joke.
I actually bought a gavita 1000w de for 125 dollars off of Craigslist from a Teenage kid who said he tried his hand at growing some clones that he bought off Craigslist. He said everything was going great. He bought top gear and thought "Im gonna make some money". Moral of the story, he grew powdery mildew with a side of Spider Mites. I got to buy his light and a bottle of Rubbing Alcohol to clean it.
Growing is not hard. However, it takes more than just light and dirt. It takes dedication. Which cant be bought for five dollars on a classified.
With that being said, there is no Green Rush, the market has been flooded with top quality for years. Think to yourself? Why would it be any different now? Prices use to be 4000 wholesale, now they are 2000 wholesale for top quality. At what point will those prices go down to where it will not even make sense to grow with the cost of nutes, electricity, water, and co2. Sadly, I believe this will not be long. Even outdoor will also hit a phase where it makes no sense to grow even in mass crap quantity.
DO
Do continue growing, but understand that the best way to cash in on the Green Rush is not growing per se but rather mentoring or setting up others. This has always been the best way to make money. You charge someone nothing up front. You simply consult through the first harvest and work hands on with someone till they make money for a percentage. If you have contacts for distribution, this is where the real money can be made. Acting as a go between. The fact is, with so many people jumping on this train, they have no ability to sell it. I have a friend who owns a licenced Prop d compliant dispensary. No, he will not buy your weed that you grew in a shed.
Dont
Dont use cancer causing cure alls. Things like eagle 20 or phospholoads are dangerous. You can also be prosecuted if someone dies from smoking your weed that you decided to put ortho on to kill a few spider mites (Yes they can and will trace it, if someone is actually harmed). The fact is there is not a single dollar that is worth hurting someone. Plus this just fuels the Governments agenda on why legalization should never occur.
Dont give anyone money to find you a property. This is just bullshit...
Dont buy clones from a parking lot. The fact is, no serious grower will share a clone of top grade quality and genetics. If you do buy a clone, know that what you are buying is B grade at best.
Dont brag about being a grower. This is just stupid. No its NOT LEGAL in California yet. Its technically legal to grow 6 plants indoor. But Federally its still a felony. DONT BE STUPID.
Do make your voice heard by going to meetings at State Agency's to voice what you expect of these tax payer based agencies that will be implementing the laws to share what you think .....
If anyone else has any comments Id love to hear them
